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Old 07-19-2018, 08:10 AM   #1
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I have hunted with some great people here on TBH in the 2-3 leases that I have had here in Texas. Some of those guys made a lasting impression on me and taught me lots about hunting. DiamondS, The Arrower, CornSlinger (Bone Thug), KingsX, Smart (God did i just say that), AntlerCollector, and RascalArms all come to mind.

Leaving a deer lease is a hard decision these days with the lack of availability that is out there, but I cam across a steal of a deal and I just can't pass it up.

460 acres inside high fence, split right down the middle with a low fence. Land also has a year round running spring fed creek through the middle of the land. Owned by two separate gentlemen, one of them i worked with for 3 years until he retired. I will have access to 230 of it for whitetail, but I will have full access to the entire 460 for Axis. Oh, and man oh man do they have some big axis on this place. Did I mention Turkey's? The property is loaded with those also... All of this for a total price yearly of $1250 for year round access

I was driving 2.5 hours to Eldorado, but now I will be driving for 20 minutes and hunting right here outside of Brackettville. The great thing is that since it is high fence I won't have to worry about letting a buck go and him getting shot on the neighbors land. I am excited!


Stay tuned for pics, stories and hopefully LDP's from this year.

You guys that deal with high fence, can you offer me some advice on the best way to get started building a good deer herd? What are some of the things to watch out for?
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:13 AM   #2
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Congrats and Good Luck!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:14 AM   #3
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Wow! That is a good deal for you right there!

I want in on one of the Axis hunts! Heck, I will pay your asking price as well as put in some sweat equity for a day if you need some help. lol

Building a good herd starts out with asking what are your visions as far as the type of herd you want? What genetic traits do you look for in a WT rack?

Most of all.... CONGRATS!

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Old 07-19-2018, 08:17 AM   #4
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Steal! Good luck !
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:23 AM   #5
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Good luck Jamie. Hope it’s all that you are looking for. Heck, I’d trade my 6 hour drive for that 20 mins myself.
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:25 AM   #6
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Congrats and put me first in line on that axis hunt!!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:26 AM   #7
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I'd definitely be interested in an axis hunt for my two kids. Would love for them to be able to shoot one.
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:26 AM   #8
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Nice! Count me in for an axis when the time comes.


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Old 07-19-2018, 08:34 AM   #9
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Put me on your contact list for an axis hunt when you get around to it! I'd love to find a place like that.
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:35 AM   #10
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Awesome deal
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:41 AM   #11
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I will say, we did get a lease closer to home for a few years and it wasn't the same. Became a rush, 1 day trip rather than a weekend trip with lease buddies. Back to driving 4 hours and staying the weekend!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:44 AM   #12
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Jeff and Joel say thank you for feeding their new pope and young bucks all year
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:47 AM   #13
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Jeff and Joel say thank you for feeding their new pope and young bucks all year
That is fine....Better than the neighbor getting them
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:49 AM   #14
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Good luck Jamie. Hope itís all that you are looking for. Heck, Iíd trade my 6 hour drive for that 20 mins myself.
Thank you Joel.....
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:02 AM   #15
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You are so right. It is always hard to leave a lease with friends. The flip side is it is so exciting to have new horizons. Good luck!
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:05 AM   #16
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Congrats on your new place!
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:08 AM   #17
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Sounds like a great place. Good luck with the new lease!!
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:17 AM   #18
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I'm happy for ya Jamie. Good luck at the new place.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:17 AM   #19
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Sounds like 1 heck of a deal... Good luck..

I hate to think about leaving my lease after 20 years but I feel the "wind of change" a coming...
It will be a sad day..

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Old 07-19-2018, 09:44 AM   #20
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We run a family place that is about 430 acres under high fence and have learned a tremendous amount about our place and the deer over the last 8 or so years. All ranches won't have the same issues but I can try and briefly summarize what we had to do and what we learned.

In the first few years our goal was to try and achieve a better buck to doe ratio. We were heavy on the does so we only targeted does in the beginning and passed on every buck. Took about 4 years to get close to a 1:1 ratio.

Total carrying capacity was also something we focused on at the start. We had an idea of how many deer we wanted and adjusted our harvest each year based on where we thought we were.

Feed as much as you can afford and as much as the deer will eat.

Let the bucks get some age before making any decisions on what to shoot.

Watch your fences. This can be a big deal if you have a low water crossing or a fence line with lots of trees. The deer know immediately when there is a way out. We have lost an entire herd of axis and some really nice whitetail bucks.

Eliminate every coyote you can. We are using snares when they come under the fence. It is an ongoing battle that will never end.

Coons can be a problem for your feed bill if you let them get out of hand.

Our number one problem has been that the mature deer on a place that size know you are there the minute you pull in the front gate. We estimate that we only see half our deer population during an average year. If it is dry you will see more. They know the stand locations and where you travel and will avoid you.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:28 AM   #21
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Sounds like a good place
I think being close to you (20 minutes) you will probably be able to hunt it more often
Are you hunting the place alone or do you have other hunters sharing the place with you ?
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:30 AM   #22
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Sounds like a good place
I think being close to you (20 minutes) you will probably be able to hunt it more often
Are you hunting the place alone or do you have other hunters sharing the place with you ?
I will be alone...
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:35 AM   #23
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That's a steal of a deal for sure.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:46 AM   #24
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That is awesome. Close to the house and cheap, who wouldn't take that.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:48 AM   #25
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Sounds like 1 heck of a deal... Good luck..

I hate to think about leaving my lease after 20 years but I feel the "wind of change" a coming...
It will be a sad day..
That stinks... so I guess the landowner decided to go forward?
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:57 AM   #26
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Congratulations!
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:02 AM   #27
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Congrats!!
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:07 AM   #28
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Can you adopt me? That looks like a nice place. Have fun.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM   #29
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my last lease was EASY to walk away from...
no deer and a lease manager that was a complete idiot
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:14 AM   #30
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Yeah that's not a deal you pass up.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:20 AM   #31
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I know what you mean. I've been on 4 or 5 leases with Burnadell. He made a lasting impression on me and taught me a lot............................................... .....Sorry, it's still hard to talk about. lol
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:25 AM   #32
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I will be alone...
Where is the place at? Weíve owned our place between brackettville and del rio for the last 22 years and are out there about every other weekend in the off season and every weekend from October to february.

Being from brackett you might know the rancher we bought the place from?

I donít know anything about the deer on your lease if they are native or introduced. I know of a place in the area that was similar in size that was high fenced as well that brought in deer, last year found CWD and were ordered by TPWD to eradicate every single deer on the place. This was after they killed numerous bucks over 200Ē in the past and basically had to watch all the money they invested go down the drain.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:26 AM   #33
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That stinks... so I guess the landowner decided to go forward?
He's working on that plus I see another possible impasse on the horizon..$$$$..
It can reach a point to where its just hard to justify.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:31 AM   #34
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Sounds like 1 heck of a deal... Good luck..

I hate to think about leaving my lease after 20 years but I feel the "wind of change" a coming...
It will be a sad day..
I was on the same lease since about 06' so I feel your pain. Just got off this year, and I think about it every single day. Sounds stupid over a deer lease, but it sucks and it's not going away I'm afraid.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:57 AM   #35
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I was on the same lease since about 06' so I feel your pain. Just got off this year, and I think about it every single day. Sounds stupid over a deer lease, but it sucks and it's not going away I'm afraid.
Oh I wont be without one for long if it ever does happen...
Good luck finding another good one.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:02 PM   #36
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I was faced with a very tough decision to leave my lease after last year. There were so many factors that made it so hard. The hardest was leaving my friends. In a perfect world, we'd all have left, but timing, etc made it difficult to pull that off. From a hunting perspective, I had already had my foot out the door before season started as I felt like a lobster in a pot that just kept getting warmer and warmer. So now I am on a smaller/closer place that is currently all to myself and my family. We've put a lot of effort into getting this raw piece of property up and running with deer camp, etc... But, even before season starts, I am already miss my buddies and the campfires that I'll miss out on. But on the flip side, my family will get to enjoy it more... and that is one of the things that trumped all the other pros/cons.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:13 PM   #37
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Jealous.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:37 PM   #38
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Boom goes the dynamite
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:39 PM   #39
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Sounds like a great place and opportunity. I'll be patiently waiting for the sign up sheet for axis hunts.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:55 PM   #40
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Guess nobody interested in your old spot?
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:39 PM   #41
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Already filled.....
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:00 PM   #42
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:53 PM   #43
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Guess nobody interested in your old spot?
Filled before I got off. I didnít wanna make the manager have to find someone.
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:57 PM   #44
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New boot tracks on new to you dirt. Congrats!


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Old 07-19-2018, 10:13 PM   #45
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Already filled.....
How much did you have to pay the new guy?
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:29 AM   #46
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Wow! Your luck seems to never run out. Congrats to you..... I am jealous.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:39 AM   #47
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Wow! Your luck seems to never run out. Congrats to you..... I am jealous.
Thank you Scott....
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:34 AM   #48
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How much did you have to pay the new guy?


Different lease from mine... I just know several of the guys on Bowstickerís ex place and the guy who took the extra spot.
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Old 07-20-2018, 09:32 AM   #49
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I would have had a hard time not keeping them both at that price.

Best of luck to you on building a deer herd and congrats on the new lease!
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