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Old 11-05-2019, 01:42 PM   #1
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Default Best MPG Full Size Crew Cab 1/2 Ton???

My wife’s commute is about to double when we move into our new house. She currently is driving a gas guzzling Toyota sequoia.

At this point, best case scenario she is getting 17 to 18 on the highway and around 12 or 13 mpg on mixed driving.

We are considering a full size crew cab truck 2wd half ton.

Reading a lot of stuff online from reviews and vehicle websites, it appears that the two best full size crew cab half ton trucks with the best fuel economy are the six cylinder Chevrolet‘s and Fords.

We will by gently used 2017-2018 vehicle regardless which way we go.

They’re marketing those two brand with 6 cylinder engines at 19/25ish (city/highway) mpg give it take a gallon.

If we go this route we will be adding a bed cover and grill guard. And it will hold two car seats at least for the next 4 to 5 years.

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Old 11-05-2019, 01:47 PM   #2
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My brother had a 2003 Chevy 1500 with the V-6. Now this did not have any type of turbo or anything but that truck had no power. Even just driving around with an empty bed, it was slow to accelerate, and driving in the hill country was a PITA getting up some of the hills. Just my $.02 but I would give up a few MPG's for a V-8. Nowadays there are some that are pretty fuel efficient.
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:50 PM   #3
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I'm not sure the V6 will give you any better mileage than the V8 to be honest. I drive a 2018 GMC half ton crew 4x4 and I get about 17.5 mixed and consistently get 20 on the highway with the 5.3 V8
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:51 PM   #4
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I get 20 mpg in a 5.0 F150...highway driving not hauling anything. Average/mixed driving is about 18. When I carry a trailer I get about 12/14.

The Turbos will fool ya because your average driving does not include kicking that turbo in.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:03 PM   #5
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Whatever you do, don't get a Toyota Tundra. I love mine because it's paid off...but i'm paying an arm and a leg on gas. They gotta be the worst fuel efficient V8 of all the trucks. But, at 208,000 miles without any serious issues and has never spent a night in a garage broken down, that's also nice.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:05 PM   #6
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No personal experience but I've heard the F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost does pretty well on fuel and is very peppy.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:06 PM   #7
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I don’t think you will beat the ecoboost for mileage.


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Old 11-05-2019, 02:09 PM   #8
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The 5.7 hemis are capable if excellent highway mileage in the 2wd 3.21 rearend / 8 speed scenerio.

My wife’s 2016 lie-o meter has rarely seen under 18 (maybe twice) and that’s with her idling a lot.
On the road it will easily pull 21-23 with an all time best of ~ 25’s on a road trip to Kansas.
I know the lie-o meter isn’t exact, but the few times I checked it it wasn’t too far off.

Btw, it had been to date (nock on wood) a trouble free vehicle so far at ~46,000 miles. As in no trips to the dealer aside from a couple of recalls and oil changes.



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Old 11-05-2019, 02:11 PM   #9
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No personal experience but I've heard the F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost does pretty well on fuel and is very peppy.


I hopped in a coworker’s truck with this engine a few months ago to move it for a crane to get in the parking lot and his Lio- meter wasReading 23.3 miles per gallon. That’s back-and-forth to work. Without him resetting it.

Pretty impressive and supposed to have decent power.


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Old 11-05-2019, 02:13 PM   #10
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Whatever you do, don't get a Toyota Tundra. I love mine because it's paid off...but i'm paying an arm and a leg on gas. They gotta be the worst fuel efficient V8 of all the trucks. But, at 208,000 miles without any serious issues and has never spent a night in a garage broken down, that's also nice.
You will either pay at the pump. Or pay at the shop. Rather pay at the pump
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:33 PM   #11
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I'm not sure the V6 will give you any better mileage than the V8 to be honest. I drive a 2018 GMC half ton crew 4x4 and I get about 17.5 mixed and consistently get 20 on the highway with the 5.3 V8
2018 GMC Z-71 4x4 with lift and 35" tires. I get around 17.5 it has 5.3 V8.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:35 PM   #12
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I have a 2017 Ram 1500 4x4 with 5.7 hemi and 8 speed. I get 21 on the highway, 22 with a tailwind. Pretty good considering it has 400hp. However city driving is about 15... probably related to that 400hp...
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:37 PM   #13
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Keep the Sequia and get a daily car to drive all the way into town.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:43 PM   #14
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I have buddy with a Ram ecodiesel that gets around 30 mpg on the highway. It did throw two rods before it's first oil change so there's that.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:44 PM   #15
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2018 GMC Z-71 4x4 with lift and 35" tires. I get around 17.5 it has 5.3 V8.
You drive downhill all day or have they just gotten that much more fuel efficient? I drive a 2014 Sierra 1500 4wd with a leveling kit and 33's (pretty sure) and I don't get anywhere near that. I average 13.5.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:45 PM   #16
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Keep them coming guys - A second vehicle is not gonna happen unless it’s a “toy” square body Chevy/gmc 4x4


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Old 11-05-2019, 02:46 PM   #17
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My brother had a 2003 Chevy 1500 with the V-6. Now this did not have any type of turbo or anything but that truck had no power. Even just driving around with an empty bed, it was slow to accelerate, and driving in the hill country was a PITA getting up some of the hills. Just my $.02 but I would give up a few MPG's for a V-8. Nowadays there are some that are pretty fuel efficient.
The 6 cyl ecoboosts are night and day different than the old NA 4.3 Chevy. They’re rocket ships by 2003 standards, and can tow pretty well.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:50 PM   #18
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The 2.7 Liter Ecoboost will be about as efficient as it comes in a gasser, and they are quite peppy too.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:56 PM   #19
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Surprised there has been no love for the ram ecodiesel on here. I've got a 2015 Lone Star Crew Cab with 70k miles, zero issues. Even with some all terrain tires I get 30-31 mpg if i set the cruise control at 70.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:58 PM   #20
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diesel F150?
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:00 PM   #21
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Surprised there has been no love for the ram ecodiesel on here. I've got a 2015 Lone Star Crew Cab with 70k miles, zero issues. Even with some all terrain tires I get 30-31 mpg if i set the cruise control at 70.
I talked to a guy the other day with an Ecodiesel. He said it was great until the factory re-flashed the ECU after they got in trouble for emissions cheating. After that the power went downhill and he wished he wouldn't have taken it in to the dealership for it. Any truth to that?
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:02 PM   #22
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My 5.0 Ford got about 21mpg until I put mud tires on it and dropped it to 16.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:03 PM   #23
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Any of the new diesel halfers will do you right. I have '16 F-150 with the 5.0 and I get 15.5 with mostly highway driving. Got 23 mpg before I went with full steel replacement bumpers and 33" mud tires though
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:03 PM   #24
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I had my update done a couple of weeks ago. I read all the people freaking out online saying that the truck lags afterwards, but I personally have not seen it. No change in MPG for me yet. Still waiting on that settlement check they're paying out for the emissions settlement though.

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I talked to a guy the other day with an Ecodiesel. He said it was great until the factory re-flashed the ECU after they got in trouble for emissions cheating. After that the power went downhill and he wished he wouldn't have taken it in to the dealership for it. Any truth to that?
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:08 PM   #25
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My '15 F150 2wd with 2.7 ecoboost gets 18/19 around town and up to 26 on the road. That is empty weight, no tool box, and strictly stock. It will jump and git when needed.

However, if towing a trailer or adding a bunch of weight, the mileage goes down quick.

Adding lift kits, big donut tires, 4wd, HD bumpers, and all the Tonka Toy stuff will bottom all of them for mileage.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:14 PM   #26
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With two kids you will miss the SUV.

The new Tahoe and Yukon are getting North of 20mpg with the new 8 and 10 speed transmissions.
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Surprised there has been no love for the ram ecodiesel on here. I've got a 2015 Lone Star Crew Cab with 70k miles, zero issues. Even with some all terrain tires I get 30-31 mpg if i set the cruise control at 70.
I don't see it
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With two kids you will miss the SUV.

The new Tahoe and Yukon are getting North of 20mpg with the new 8 and 10 speed transmissions.
yeah for $70,000 and no hauling abilities
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No personal experience but I've heard the F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost does pretty well on fuel and is very peppy.
Agree. Had mine about 15K miles and get 20-22 on the hwy empty and driving sanely. It's a 4x4 with the 2.7 Eco. I get 18-19 in town in mixed driving, driving like the grandpa I am. Pulling a trailer and loaded hunting, I got 14 in the hill country. My average overall is 18.5 on my computer since I brought it home. I have a camper on it so it might be a little better without it.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:45 PM   #30
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I'm lost. You don't see the MPG or the truck?
Gotta love that tail wind.

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Old 11-05-2019, 03:50 PM   #31
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I get 20 mpg in a 5.0 F150...highway driving not hauling anything. Average/mixed driving is about 18. When I carry a trailer I get about 12/14.

The Turbos will fool ya because your average driving does not include kicking that turbo in.
same here in my '18 F150 5.0^^^
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:53 PM   #32
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Get a cheap commuter car and keep the sequoia for weekend soccer
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:56 PM   #33
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2.7 f150. Bought one in crew 4x4 for my son and it average 21 mixed lifetime and easily get 23-25 of straight highway . Plus has a surprising amount of power in terms of acceleration


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Old 11-05-2019, 04:08 PM   #34
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I have a 2.7 on 35’s and get 18mpg
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:09 PM   #35
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The diesel 1/2 ton Chevy's are about to come out. I believe they said that the highway mpg on a 2wd is 33.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:15 PM   #36
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Buying a more fuel efficient vehicle is usually not worth it unless you're buying something that gets drastically better fuel mileage. For every 1 mpg increase in fuel mileage, cost savings are between $500 and $1,000 over 100,000 miles traveled (assuming a fuel cost of $2.5 mpg). Greater cost savings are achieved when talking about low mpg vehicles (if you went from 15 to 16 mpg you would save $1,000 per 100,000 miles, if you went from 25 to 26 mpg you would only save about $500 per 100,000 miles).

But 13 mpg is pretty bad for these days, so if you got something that got 20 mpg you may save around $6-7k. Even still, if your current vehicle is still serviceable and you wife likes it, it is probably not worth it to get something newer unless you're moving into something that gets drastically better fuel mileage (probably a car, not a full size truck). Even with the better fuel mileage of trucks today, they are usually so expensive that the math doesn't really justify buying one to try and save money on gas.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:19 PM   #37
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Buy the Chevy the ford will eat you up with repairs you will end up loosing money
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:40 PM   #38
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Just Replaced a Ford Explorer with a practically new 2017 RAV 4. We have three kids that play sports and it works just fine. 30-32 mpg, and There's an Eco and sport mode. Also has radar cruise, auto braking and lane assist. Pretty sharp little car. My wife and three boys fit just fine with a deer in the cooler and a bunch of crap packed in the back on there way back from hunting this weekend. And it's a Toyota. Only paid $18,000 with 27,000 miles on it and super clean.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:45 PM   #39
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I talked to a guy the other day with an Ecodiesel. He said it was great until the factory re-flashed the ECU after they got in trouble for emissions cheating. After that the power went downhill and he wished he wouldn't have taken it in to the dealership for it. Any truth to that?
Yup, GDE tune and forget it. You will be amazed the difference it makes. Better then new.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:56 PM   #40
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2.7 4x4 and bone stock here.
Best I've gotten on highway driving cautious was 26. I average 22.8 and I'm in the woods and use 4x4 ALOT as a forester.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:03 PM   #41
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2019 5.0 f150 4x4 here and I get 19 combined. 21/22 highway
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:56 PM   #42
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2016 ecodiesel 4x4 crew cab and get 22+ straight highway. 20 mixed driving. 18 when pulling a moderate trailer with atv. 12+ when pulling a 30ft 6500lb travel trailer.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:32 AM   #43
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This one would probably do pretty good... https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...d.php?t=748220
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:28 AM   #44
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I’m definitely curious about the ecodiesels

Anyone have the ford version?


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Old 11-06-2019, 09:44 AM   #45
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Buy the Chevy the ford will eat you up with repairs you will end up loosing money
You sound like another TBH'er on here. He had a chevy that he had for years it never needed gas or oil changed. I think he climbed MT Everest a few times with it and drove it to Hawaii
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Old 11-06-2019, 06:18 PM   #46
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:00 PM   #47
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I hate car shopping. My wife wants to start looking around at several things/options on both our suburban and my truck. I want to stand pat!. I would rather be kicked in the crotch!
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I was talking to a high school Auto-tech teacher about the current half ton diesels and what little I've heard about the Hi-lux diesel in the Toyota's used oversees being highly regarded.
He stated this is the same engine they are using in the F-150.
Same manufacturer, same supplier etc.

Not sure how true it is, but he seemed pretty sure of the statement and deals with Ford a lot in his program.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:26 PM   #49
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My Ecodiesel Ram 1500 gets pretty dang good MPG



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Old 11-06-2019, 07:38 PM   #50
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I always heard there is 2 things people lie about the most. The size of the fish they caught and the gas mileage their truck gets.
At 192k miles on my 2005 crewcab 1/2 ton silverado with the 5.3 motor I just did a 2547 mile road trip to Vegas and back. Ran 75-85 most of the way out and back. Averaged exactly 20.0 mpg and 1 quart of oil. I can't complain. Back when she was new and I could still get pure gas it would get 23 mpg highway.
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