Jo Jorgensen

[roaddawg]

With our state drifting blue, you have to look at the big picture. While Trump should win here, we don't need to help him lose. If enough people say "my vote wont matter", we could end up with a demented pervert with oldtimers disease in the white house. Depending on who is selected for vice president, this becomes a much bigger deal. Hilliary or big Mike as vp changes everything.
Look at it as a vote against socialism and hopefully 4 years of draining the swamp with the gloves off. Hopefully we will have a good start before the election as the AG and senate cases open up. We need to out the democratic party for what it really is. The republicans are not perfect, but for the future of our country, there is no way i could vote for anyone but Trump this fall.
And then we need to be grooming his replacement for 2024, because like cancer, they will keep coming back.

Dan Crenshaw i hope

[Jason Fry]

I had to look up Jorgensen on abortion. Seems like she's careful not to take a firm position. I did find this interview:

TLR: "You have called for the Libertarian Party to delete the abortion plank, which would presumably mean that the platform was actually silent on the matter and individual candidates could feel more free to run under their own interpretations on the interplay between that and the non-aggression principle. If there were no abortion plank, would you personally run as a pro-life Libertarian?
JJ:.... "I am not going to feature abortion, whether pro-choice, pro-life… I am not going to have that as part of something that I’m campaigning on or that I’m emphasizing. Because there’s something like 2% of the population, where that’s their number one voting issue. Something like 80% of Americans thinks that abortion should be okay in the first three months. It just seems like for the most part that’s been set aside for more urgent things. So I would not run on the issue one way or the other. And in fact… right now I just say I support the party platform.

"But let me point out, the reason I thought that the plank should be eliminated isn’t to have candidates who are pro- life, but [for] people outside the party.... So many times I see this [perceived] as a litmus test. And so many times I run into people who are just so frustrated with Republicans because they’re not following through on smaller government. They’re frustrated with the Democrats, because they’ve changed. They’re no longer for free speech. Now they’ve become, I hate to throw terms around, but let’s just say more authoritarian. So people are looking for another party, and they look towards the Libertarian Party and they say, 'Well, I can’t be in the Libertarian Party because I’m pro-life.'

"And a lot of Libertarians send that message out that if you don’t agree with us, 100/100, you can’t be in our party. The main reason I wanted to get rid of that plank is so that all of these many fine voters out there who are lost - who don’t have a small government party to go to - will look at us as an option. And my experience is that once people join the party, they become more Libertarian on all issues. In fact, I was just talking with somebody a couple of weeks ago, at the Florida convention. And he said, 'You know, when I joined the party, I was 80/100, but being around all the people in here and all the ideas now I’m 100/100.'

"So what I would like to do is drop that one barrier that seems to be a big barrier, so that we can increase membership and then get people to look at the other things."

[muzzlebrake]

I'll add to this. One more Supreme Court Justice. That's what everyone needs to be thinking about seeing how Roberts is showing more and more who he is.

x1000

[SabineHunter]

I'll add to this. One more Supreme Court Justice. That's what everyone needs to be thinking about seeing how Roberts is showing more and more who he is.

Amen, brother.

TRUMP 2020

[JLivi1224]

With our state drifting blue, you have to look at the big picture. While Trump should win here, we don't need to help him lose. If enough people say "my vote wont matter", we could end up with a demented pervert with oldtimers disease in the white house. Depending on who is selected for vice president, this becomes a much bigger deal. Hilliary or big Mike as vp changes everything.
Look at it as a vote against socialism and hopefully 4 years of draining the swamp with the gloves off. Hopefully we will have a good start before the election as the AG and senate cases open up. We need to out the democratic party for what it really is. The republicans are not perfect, but for the future of our country, there is no way i could vote for anyone but Trump this fall.
And then we need to be grooming his replacement for 2024, because like cancer, they will keep coming back.

100% on the money on all accounts.

[100%TtId]

I had to look up Jorgensen on abortion. Seems like she's careful not to take a firm position. I did find this interview:

TLR: "You have called for the Libertarian Party to delete the abortion plank, which would presumably mean that the platform was actually silent on the matter and individual candidates could feel more free to run under their own interpretations on the interplay between that and the non-aggression principle. If there were no abortion plank, would you personally run as a pro-life Libertarian?
JJ:.... "I am not going to feature abortion, whether pro-choice, pro-life… I am not going to have that as part of something that I’m campaigning on or that I’m emphasizing. Because there’s something like 2% of the population, where that’s their number one voting issue. Something like 80% of Americans thinks that abortion should be okay in the first three months. It just seems like for the most part that’s been set aside for more urgent things. So I would not run on the issue one way or the other. And in fact… right now I just say I support the party platform.

"But let me point out, the reason I thought that the plank should be eliminated isn’t to have candidates who are pro- life, but [for] people outside the party.... So many times I see this [perceived] as a litmus test. And so many times I run into people who are just so frustrated with Republicans because they’re not following through on smaller government. They’re frustrated with the Democrats, because they’ve changed. They’re no longer for free speech. Now they’ve become, I hate to throw terms around, but let’s just say more authoritarian. So people are looking for another party, and they look towards the Libertarian Party and they say, 'Well, I can’t be in the Libertarian Party because I’m pro-life.'

"And a lot of Libertarians send that message out that if you don’t agree with us, 100/100, you can’t be in our party. The main reason I wanted to get rid of that plank is so that all of these many fine voters out there who are lost - who don’t have a small government party to go to - will look at us as an option. And my experience is that once people join the party, they become more Libertarian on all issues. In fact, I was just talking with somebody a couple of weeks ago, at the Florida convention. And he said, 'You know, when I joined the party, I was 80/100, but being around all the people in here and all the ideas now I’m 100/100.'

"So what I would like to do is drop that one barrier that seems to be a big barrier, so that we can increase membership and then get people to look at the other things."

If it takes 4 paragraphs to explain why you won't answer a simple question on abortion, it's a good bet you're not pro-life.

[SabineHunter]

If it takes 4 paragraphs to explain why you won't answer a simple question on abortion, it's a good bet you're not pro-life.

Yep, that is what I was thinking. She apparently isn't very honest or transparent. Jason, this is a wasted vote. But, it's your vote.

Go TRUMP 2020

[M16]

I had to look up Jorgensen on abortion.

So you decided to throw your support to someone you know nothing about.

[Jason Fry]

I'm one of those she mentions for whom abortion isn't my primary voting issue. Doesn't mean I don't have opinions about it, but it's not why I vote.

[Artos]

The two party system is a big problem but we need a 'viable' candidate...this isn't even close to consider voting for J.

[steven]

I was in 2nd grade in 1992 when Ross Perot was running and I still remember hearing adults talk about how a vote for him was wasted......almost 30 years later and its still the same tired old argument. If only a 3rd party could've even gained a bit of traction back then, we might not be in this situation today. Jo will have my vote

[gemini2759]

Trump's tweets, rhetoric and interference in local school matters is really starting to **** me off, but I still have to vote for him. If he loses to brainless Biden, we done as a country.

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[iamntxhunter]

I was in 2nd grade in 1992 when Ross Perot was running and I still remember hearing adults talk about how a vote for him was wasted......almost 30 years later and its still the same tired old argument. If only a 3rd party could've even gained a bit of traction back then, we might not be in this situation today. Jo will have my vote

What's our situation as to the way you see it?

[iamntxhunter]

If anyone thinks a third party candidate would get anything done is not facing reality.

[steven]

What's our situation as to the way you see it?

To me, the bump stock ban and red flag laws are a no go. I was a Trump supporter way back in the day when his name was mud on this very website and Cruz was the messiah, but I’m not afraid to admit I was wrong....