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Old 10-01-2018, 04:05 PM   #1
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I'm interested in doing a elk hunt next year either in Colorado or New Mecico. I know nothing about public land hunting for elk. How do you get your info on hunting different units and locations? Where to you apply or buy tags, online?? how did you guys start doing these hunts? Did you tag along with someone for the first time? Any help and information is appreciated. Thanks
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:23 PM   #2
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Search the forum. We have several threads running right now on it, and multiple others from days gone by.
Start with the game and fish website for whatever state you're interested in.
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:27 PM   #3
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You can't hunt New Mexico without drawing a tag or buying a landowner tag. Gohunt.com has some great info, rokslide has some good info, and our own Elk Thread has lots of good stuff. The hunt is easy enough to do, the being alone in the woods and finding animals is another mess all in itself. You're opening up a giant rabbit hole that has consumed my life since the first time i set foot in the mountains. Good luck
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:37 PM   #4
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You can't hunt New Mexico without drawing a tag or buying a landowner tag. Gohunt.com has some great info, rokslide has some good info, and our own Elk Thread has lots of good stuff. The hunt is easy enough to do, the being alone in the woods and finding animals is another mess all in itself. You're opening up a giant rabbit hole that has consumed my life since the first time i set foot in the mountains. Good luck
This... I can’t stop thinking about going again since I got back this year. If you want to mess around and read a bunch of stuff about how states draw systems work and odds for different states, try gohunt’s 30 day free trial. It is gohunt.com/elktalk
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For starters, have you ever hunted public land at all? For anything? Texas doesn't have a lot of public land, but I will say, after having been on my first OTC public land CO elk hunt, I am grateful for the few years I did hunt public land here before I got on a lease. It helped me appreciate/understand the basic challenges/logistics that come with public land hunting.

Getting on elk... well... that is a completely different challenge.
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:56 PM   #6
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These guys already said it. It can be a very addictive.

I always have liked the idea of starting with a cow hunt. It can be done cheaper, it gets you in the mountains with elk, they are much easier than bulls and a nice young cow is just dang tasty.

If you want to just jump in with a bull tag I would probably hire a guide and put in for the draws. Think of it as attending a semester of classes. If you pay attention and your guide is good you can really close a whole lot of ground on your elk hunting learning.


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Old 10-01-2018, 05:01 PM   #7
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Just got back from my first Colorado public land hunt .
#1-10 get your but in shape and then train some more ,
Everything up there is bigger/farther then it looks

#11 get the best gear you can afford
# 12 don’t let the hunt consume you, I kinda did and I missed out on just taking the country in and enjoying myself
#13 make a plan a stick to it ..

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Old 10-01-2018, 05:05 PM   #8
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I dont mean to hi jack, but might help us both kinda question.

I have access to private land that backs up to public Gila National Forest. Can the NM land owner give me tags without me drawing? Or do I have to draw regardless?

He sends me pics of huge Elk in his yard. It's in NM unit 16 B.

I tried looking on line and it was confusing to me lol
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:08 PM   #9
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I dont mean to hi jack, but might help us both kinda question.



I have access to private land that backs up to public Gila National Forest. Can the NM land owner give me tags without me drawing? Or do I have to draw regardless?



He sends me pics of huge Elk in his yard. It's in NM unit 16 B.



I tried looking on line and it was confusing to me lol


He can but only if he gives you two (one for me). I'm not positive but I think some of those tags might be ranch only tags instead of good for the whole unit. So do some research before diving in.
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I dont mean to hi jack, but might help us both kinda question.



I have access to private land that backs up to public Gila National Forest. Can the NM land owner give me tags without me drawing? Or do I have to draw regardless?



He sends me pics of huge Elk in his yard. It's in NM unit 16 B.



I tried looking on line and it was confusing to me lol


A landowner with tags can give you the tag(s). You would be on the hook for the license and if its a unit wide tag you would be required to add 9 dollars for stamps.


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Old 10-01-2018, 05:32 PM   #11
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OTC unite on CO will be crowded. We saw almost nothing but TX plates. Be prepared to hike and get away from folks. One spot we were told about we pulled up and 7 other 4 wheelers were parked. Getting in good shape is #1. I had been slacking and had a chest cold. Kicked my rear end big time and we didn’t hike a lot. Rokslide is a good forum for info. Fish and game dept has a lot of info too.


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Old 10-01-2018, 06:46 PM   #12
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For starters, have you ever hunted public land at all? For anything? Texas doesn't have a lot of public land, but I will say, after having been on my first OTC public land CO elk hunt, I am grateful for the few years I did hunt public land here before I got on a lease. It helped me appreciate/understand the basic challenges/logistics that come with public land hunting.

Getting on elk... well... that is a completely different challenge.


I have never hunted public land.


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Old 10-01-2018, 06:47 PM   #13
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These guys already said it. It can be a very addictive.

I always have liked the idea of starting with a cow hunt. It can be done cheaper, it gets you in the mountains with elk, they are much easier than bulls and a nice young cow is just dang tasty.

If you want to just jump in with a bull tag I would probably hire a guide and put in for the draws. Think of it as attending a semester of classes. If you pay attention and your guide is good you can really close a whole lot of ground on your elk hunting learning.


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I would be completely happy just getting a cow. Of course a big bull would be great but for my first time there would be nothing wrong with a cow.


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Old 10-01-2018, 06:49 PM   #14
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Looks like I got a lot of homework and research to to.

How does everyone camp on public land? Are y’all setting up camp with a tent where y’all are hunting or traveling back and forth to a hotel?


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No offense, but if you want to be spoon fed public land hunting is probably not going to be a success for you.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:04 PM   #16
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That's a great way to think about it but I promise you that in an otc unit, seeing a cow would be a win. Killing one on your first hunt could happen but it rarely and I mean rarely ever does in Colorado. Most people I've hunted with or talked to put in 2-4 years learning a unit and the animals. They would dang near rather give you their first born than give you info on their spot. So saying a cow would be nice for your first time in an otc unit is about like saying I want Margot Robbie, but I guess I'll settle for Cameron Diaz. Not saying it won't happen, BUT ITS TOUGH.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:06 PM   #17
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No offense, but if you want to be spoon fed public land hunting is probably not going to be a success for you.


Who said anything about being spoon fed?
I just want to learn how to do it.
For me success would be just going on the trip.

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Old 10-01-2018, 07:09 PM   #18
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Looks like I got a lot of homework and research to to.

How does everyone camp on public land? Are y’all setting up camp with a tent where y’all are hunting or traveling back and forth to a hotel?


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Oh my sweet baby Jesus!! Camp, as far in and as far away from people as you can get. It's not a leisurely stroll in the woods, it's busting your butt super early and hiking back to camp way after dark. Driving to a hotel would be a waste of time for sure. Be as light and mobile as you can in my opinion. It's one of those things that beats you down physically to the point where when it's over you are ready to go home, but as soon as you get a couple of days of rest you can't wait to do it again. And again, and again. Please don't think you will be able to drive up to a trailhead from the hotel, jump out and be all alone, hike up the trail and shoot an elk. These things get pressured and are educated in the ways of flatlander.

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Old 10-01-2018, 07:21 PM   #19
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Who said anything about being spoon fed?
Starting a thread with all your questions for people to answer is like a baby bird squawking in the nest with its mouth open waiting for mom to come by and feed it.
Search and read... there's an OCEAN of information even just on this website waiting to be read.
If you get a cow on your first trip you will have beat the odds. Look at success rates... many of them single digits, and set your expectations accordingly.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:24 PM   #20
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I dont mean to hi jack, but might help us both kinda question.

I have access to private land that backs up to public Gila National Forest. Can the NM land owner give me tags without me drawing? Or do I have to draw regardless?

He sends me pics of huge Elk in his yard. It's in NM unit 16 B.

I tried looking on line and it was confusing to me lol
Yes if he is entered into the program. If he gets unit wide tags it opens his Land up to the general public hunting it though. Ranch only tags are just that
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:34 PM   #21
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I'm interested in doing a elk hunt next year either in Colorado or New Mecico. I know nothing about public land hunting for elk. How do you get your info on hunting different units and locations? Where to you apply or buy tags, online?? how did you guys start doing these hunts? Did you tag along with someone for the first time? Any help and information is appreciated. Thanks

Both state web sites break down hunter success statistics and do a great job also laying out draw odds.

Although NM is draw only, there are units if you search well, you have good chance of drawing statistically. With that said make sure those units have accessible public land.

My advice is just go, don’t over think it. CO and NM by majority are pretty mild backcountry, not to many places you cant hike out of in a day.
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Who said anything about being spoon fed?
I just want to learn how to do it.
For me success would be just going on the trip.

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Don't let those that can't get it done get you down.


Not trying to get him down or talk down to him, just don't want him to go in blind.
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Both state web sites break down hunter success statistics and do a great job also laying out draw odds.



Although NM is draw only, there are units if you search well, you have good chance of drawing statistically. With that said make sure those units have accessible public land.



My advice is just go, don’t over think it. CO and NM by majority are pretty mild backcountry, not to many places you cant hike out of in a day.


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Not trying to get him down or talk down to him, just don't want him to go in blind.
You have given very good advice. Reference statistics.

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My advice, start an active lifestyle and include your family.

Second don’t be scare, just do it. There is no right or wrong way to hunt, only your way because it’s your experience.

Internet is full of great western hunting hacks, with that said remember we almost eliminated vast majority of Wildlife in the US with cap and ball ML and pull on boots. Not saying go hunt in cowboy boots but you get my drift.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:55 PM   #27
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Would be useful to go on a guided hunt first to get your feet wet, but not a dang thing wrong with DIY OTC to start. Thats how I started. I'd suggest Colorado because there are a ton of OTC tags and areas to hunt. IF you're going archery, the tags are either sex, so you dont have to limit yourself to a cow or bull.

A quick how to;

1. Find a general area to hunt (lots of units in Colorado). Colorado Big game booklet
Go to pg. 35 and you can see all the units that have OTC tags. You can throw a dart and pick one, or do some online research on units. Picking a unit west of I25 is better due to private land. Using Gohunt will also help you narrow down a unit.

2. Find spots using google earth within the unit. Plenty of info online about how to do this, but to sum it up, Look for cover, feed and water and a lack of roads. Randy Newberg has a good video on e-scouting.

3. Decide on basecamp or backcountry hunt. I'd start with a basecamp and spike camp if you get into elk. Basecamp can be as fancy or bare bones as you want. Camping in Colorado is not much different than camping anywhere else. A cot and cot pad with a good warm sleeping bag is a big plus as good sleep helps you hunt harder. Other than that, its just camping for a week.

4. Hike your *** off starting now. The better shape you are in the more ground you can cover. The more ground you can cover the better your chances of killing an elk. That's not to say you just need to hike all day to find elk, as you can and will blow them out. But if you hear or see elk far off, being in good shape will pay huge dividends.

5. Start watching youtube videos and listening to podcasts about hunting elk. Calling, scouting, techniques, etc is all much different than hunting in Texas.

6. Go hunt. Remember to enjoy the hunt whether or not you kill. Success rates hover around 10%, so dont go thinking the only way to have a good time is to kill. Its gorgeous country and chasing elk is like nothing else


Hope this helps!
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You have given very good advice.


I know I don’t k ow anything, but I gotta start somewhere.


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So has anyone on here done a hunt like this without going with someone who has been before?


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Old 10-01-2018, 08:05 PM   #30
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Yeah man I started going three years ago...went with me and another dude neither of us had been before...




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Yes, in several states. I hunt elk, mulies, bear and Pronghorn every year out west. Had some great success years, some expensive tag sandwich years and a ton of adventures that I wouldn’t trade for anything
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:23 PM   #32
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Would be useful to go on a guided hunt first to get your feet wet, but not a dang thing wrong with DIY OTC to start. Thats how I started. I'd suggest Colorado because there are a ton of OTC tags and areas to hunt. IF you're going archery, the tags are either sex, so you dont have to limit yourself to a cow or bull.

A quick how to;

1. Find a general area to hunt (lots of units in Colorado). Colorado Big game booklet
Go to pg. 35 and you can see all the units that have OTC tags. You can throw a dart and pick one, or do some online research on units. Picking a unit west of I25 is better due to private land. Using Gohunt will also help you narrow down a unit.

2. Find spots using google earth within the unit. Plenty of info online about how to do this, but to sum it up, Look for cover, feed and water and a lack of roads. Randy Newberg has a good video on e-scouting.

3. Decide on basecamp or backcountry hunt. I'd start with a basecamp and spike camp if you get into elk. Basecamp can be as fancy or bare bones as you want. Camping in Colorado is not much different than camping anywhere else. A cot and cot pad with a good warm sleeping bag is a big plus as good sleep helps you hunt harder. Other than that, its just camping for a week.

4. Hike your *** off starting now. The better shape you are in the more ground you can cover. The more ground you can cover the better your chances of killing an elk. That's not to say you just need to hike all day to find elk, as you can and will blow them out. But if you hear or see elk far off, being in good shape will pay huge dividends.

5. Start watching youtube videos and listening to podcasts about hunting elk. Calling, scouting, techniques, etc is all much different than hunting in Texas.

6. Go hunt. Remember to enjoy the hunt whether or not you kill. Success rates hover around 10%, so dont go thinking the only way to have a good time is to kill. Its gorgeous country and chasing elk is like nothing else


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Old 10-01-2018, 08:27 PM   #33
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1) Go with someone that has been to the mountains befire, it helps.
2) Get in great shape.
3) Don't think you have to pack in miles. Elk are where they are, use the crowd to your advantage. It's big country but people are predictable.
4) Pace yourself, enjoy the trip.
5) Learn a little every year. You can take 5 or 6 trips for what one good guided trip costs.
6) Start rat holing elk money, one trip will turn into an addiction.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:45 PM   #34
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I went by myself 6 years ago, everything I'm telling you I'm also telling myself from 6 years ago. I bit off a few mouthfuls and wasn't ready. It's a blast and you will be hooked just waking up in that country
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Alright, here’s my experience from my first elk hunt the other week, which was also my first western and backpack hunt. We were in a CO OTC unit, I drew a muzzleloader cow tag with 0 points, but the other 3 guys in the trip just bought OTC archery tags.

The pieces of advice you’ll hear repeated over and over again are pretty much true, including:

“You can’t be in good enough shape.”

“The elk are where you find them.”

“Shoot the first legal elk you see.”

“You’ll never beat elk’s nose, watch the wind constantly.”

“Your boots/feet are your most important equipment.”

We backpacked in 5 miles and set up a small camp that we hunted out of. There were elk closer to the truck than that, but we killed a bull another mile and a half further in also. I spent a lot of time getting my gear dialed in and at showed. I used everything I took and didn’t need anything else. You don’t need top notch gear to hunt, but having lightweight stuff that keeps you comfortable and you aren’t messing with constantly allows you to stay out longer and focus on hunting. I do wish I had gotten it figured out over the winter when I could test stuff in colder temps. I was doing it in the spring/summer so I was guessing on what gear would be sufficient, and was a bit over-prepared for the cold in case it dropped more than expected.

I started hiking with a 45 lb pack in January 1-2 times per week and had no issues other than acclimating to the altitude the first 2 days. One of the guys on the trip took the “tough it out” approach but was much slower and another guy barely ended up hunting due to being out of shape. It is important to be able to go where the elk are, you pretty much get one shot if you’re lucky. If you ***** and moan about climbing for 2 1/2 hours you might not get that one opportunity.

I didn’t spend enough time figuring out how to actually hunt the elk, it took a couple days. We glassed 20 cows from behind camp the first night and went up to shoot one in the morning. They had a 5x5 with them that came into bow range with my buddy there, so I told him to take the opportunity as it probably wasn’t going to happen again. He killed him and it took us all day to get it quartered and the meat back to camp, then a day and a half to pack it out to the truck. I didn’t have another chance at one until the second to last day where I missed a head shot on a bedded cow. We put too much emphasis on calling which wasn’t working, and we knew they were in the dark timber but it’s really hard to move quietly, so you just end up bumping them before you have a chance to get a shot. What I finally found worked the best was finding fresh sign in the timber and then getting on a trail and slipping through it super slow, stopping and glassing every few steps.

There’s a lot more info and small tidbits of stuff I learned, but I don’t want to hijack the whole thread.
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The guys who are successful out west on Public land are the guys who become consumed.. They are to stupid to quit.. I would say you have a <10% chance of even seeing an elk your first trip.. If you do its either because you truly prepared or got lucky..
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:17 PM   #37
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I’ve been lucky enough to hunt with a friend around Taos for the past 3 seasons. I’ve filled my tags with him on all three hunts. Without his knowledge- I would have had less that 20% chance of success. I shot the first legal elk, deer, elk I saw.

It takes time to hunt out west. Plan for travel and scouting. Many of us are used to jumping in the truck and hunting that afternoon. A two day trip up and back, on top of six plus days of hunting eats up a lot of vacation.

Elk (and some deer) are big. Packing meat on your back in steep terrain is hard work. This isn’t just drive up and load the animal. Guys on this forum aren’t kidding when they say they worked all day butchering and packing an animal.

Read the OTC statistics in Colorado- low term for most units.




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Old 10-01-2018, 09:30 PM   #38
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I dont mean to hi jack, but might help us both kinda question.

I have access to private land that backs up to public Gila National Forest. Can the NM land owner give me tags without me drawing? Or do I have to draw regardless?

He sends me pics of huge Elk in his yard. It's in NM unit 16 B.

I tried looking on line and it was confusing to me lol
Sounds like you, Dan, and I need to get together and go hunt some elk. Planning to go next year.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:31 PM   #39
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Read this thread:

Walks through the entire process of JT's NM hunt: strategy for getting tags, gear, hunting tactics, great hunt story!

https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...highlight=Gila
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:06 PM   #40
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In, thanks guys.


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Old 10-01-2018, 11:48 PM   #41
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I havent seen it mentioned yet...toprut is a good quick place to get draw odds and success rates for a unit you are looking into.

NM is draw only but if you get a tag its going to be a much easier hunt than CO OTC would be. You have to front the money for a tag when you apply but you get all but a few dollars back if you dont draw. Deadline for NM is in March and CO is in April.

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Old 10-02-2018, 12:02 AM   #42
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Forget the hunt I just want to camp like that!!!
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Oh my sweet baby Jesus!! Camp, as far in and as far away from people as you can get. It's not a leisurely stroll in the woods, it's busting your butt super early and hiking back to camp way after dark. Driving to a hotel would be a waste of time for sure. Be as light and mobile as you can in my opinion. It's one of those things that beats you down physically to the point where when it's over you are ready to go home, but as soon as you get a couple of days of rest you can't wait to do it again. And again, and again. Please don't think you will be able to drive up to a trailhead from the hotel, jump out and be all alone, hike up the trail and shoot an elk. These things get pressured and are educated in the ways of flatlander.

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Old 10-02-2018, 12:46 AM   #43
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The guys who are successful out west on Public land are the guys who become consumed.. They are to stupid to quit.. I would say you have a <10% chance of even seeing an elk your first trip.. If you do its either because you truly prepared or got lucky..
No truer a statement has been said on TBH.

The vast majority of Western hunters are your typical road hunter/weekend warrior that hope they stumble into game. The guys that do their work and get back in there are the ones pulling the game out. It takes a lot of work and dedication to be successful, especially on elk...or a lot of luck.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:02 AM   #44
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Man I'm glad I'm not Road Hunter.
Just never seen the appeal I've sent it on a road looking 3 for 500 yards in either direction and waiting for something to cross.

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No truer a statement has been said on TBH.

The vast majority of Western hunters are your typical road hunter/weekend warrior that hope they stumble into game. The guys that do their work and get back in there are the ones pulling the game out. It takes a lot of work and dedication to be successful, especially on elk...or a lot of luck.
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Old 10-02-2018, 06:44 AM   #45
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Elk101.com

Then the 900 page Elk thread on here.
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:35 AM   #46
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No offense, but if you want to be spoon fed public land hunting is probably not going to be a success for you.
aw the classic "no offense" prefacing a jack *** comment.

i've been on forums for long time. some better than others.

2 things tend to happen. either the forum gets so consumed by telling everyone to search because there's a thread about every subject and that ends up driving new posters away or everyone starts the same threads over and over again and the older posters leave.

very few places have a nice medium.

i've been interested in elk hunting for years now. i've read a number of threads on here and other places and i still have a lot of questions.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:07 AM   #47
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aw the classic "no offense" prefacing a jack *** comment.

i've been on forums for long time. some better than others.

2 things tend to happen. either the forum gets so consumed by telling everyone to search because there's a thread about every subject and that ends up driving new posters away or everyone starts the same threads over and over again and the older posters leave.

very few places have a nice medium.

i've been interested in elk hunting for years now. i've read a number of threads on here and other places and i still have a lot of questions.
Are you calling him a jackass?
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:31 AM   #48
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aw the classic "no offense" prefacing a jack *** comment.

i've been on forums for long time. some better than others.

2 things tend to happen. either the forum gets so consumed by telling everyone to search because there's a thread about every subject and that ends up driving new posters away or everyone starts the same threads over and over again and the older posters leave.

very few places have a nice medium.

i've been interested in elk hunting for years now. i've read a number of threads on here and other places and i still have a lot of questions.
public land is hard hunting... generally not accomplished fresh out of a hotel room and certainly not settling for a cow rather than a big bull on your first trip out.
realistic expectations is a good starting point... as is setting the tone for the self-starting tenacity required to get it done.
reading through some of what's been put out there rather than "hey everybody walk me through this from the beginning" is going to get better results and reduce the clutter of redundant info.
then again, there are internet jockeys who like to thump their chests on forums and don't ever go...
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:44 AM   #49
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public land is hard hunting... generally not accomplished fresh out of a hotel room and certainly not settling for a cow rather than a big bull on your first trip out.
realistic expectations is a good starting point... as is setting the tone for the self-starting tenacity required to get it done.
reading through some of what's been put out there rather than "hey everybody walk me through this from the beginning" is going to get better results and reduce the clutter of redundant info.
then again, there are internet jockeys who like to thump their chests on forums and don't ever go...
i agree with everything you are saying. does the op need to go read a bunch? yes, absolutely. but, there's no harm in getting direct answers when possible instead of having to rifle through pages of stuff to find the one thing you are looking for.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:47 AM   #50
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The guys who are successful out west on Public land are the guys who become consumed.. They are to stupid to quit.. I would say you have a <10% chance of even seeing an elk your first trip.. If you do its either because you truly prepared or got lucky..
Pretty much sums it up.

With that said a even a 40-70 mile week of bow hikes still beat the hell out of being at the office.
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