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Old 03-20-2017, 09:38 AM   #1
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Default Those who gave up lease to hunt their own land

Any regrets?

I would like to hear others experience in how they feel after making the decision to get off their lease or deciding to keep both.

I am talking small parcel ownership compared to leasing larger tracts although any experiences are appreciated.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:52 AM   #2
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I have never leased, we have some family land about 100 acres. Never killed any giants but we have hogs and deer and I save 2000+ a year. I always look into leases and when it comes time to bite the bullet I just can't do it. I'm a penny pincher though. I enjoy just having somewhere to go and have some fun and watch some wildlife
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:57 AM   #3
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We bought our 1st place about 4 years ago. We had got tired of lease drama /problems. I have to say it is Great having our own place. We originally looked at the Aspermont area to buy. We love the country out there. After sitting down and really thinking it out we knew it would be tough to go as much as we wanted. We average at least 2 trips a month to our place. We love getting out there. Anyways I have kinda been looking for a place to lease or get on in the Aspermont area to see if it is all we want. We have decided that when we retire we are going to buy out there if we like it.I will never be without my own place unless something happens and we can't have it. It is so nice to go to the ranch and not have to worry about what is going to happen next. After dealing with landowners telling us one thing and doing the opposite or dealing with the leases than run with 2 sets of rules or rules changes after getting on it is heaven to own your own hunting land. Good Luck on your decision.

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:58 AM   #4
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I own land but if I wasn't so busy I'd get on a lease if I could find a decently priced one. I like seeing game too much at my place to shoot them too much.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:58 AM   #5
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My father and I hunt on a large track of land in South Texas. We have leased this property for 20+ years and have historically shot some solid 150 - 160 class deer. All low fence.

We now have our own property to hunt which is considerably smaller. It is very tempting to give up our lease. The small track of land has the potential to produce very large deer and is a game rich environment (Deer, tons of hogs, turkeys). Last season we shot our biggest deer ever with a bow... Mid 160s deer.

My conclusion: Hunt both and enjoy both if you can afford it. I will continue to stay on my lease because of the price that we pay for the quality of deer we shoot. One day if we loose our lease, I will still be able to hunt because of our own land. If size does not matter for the deer you hunt and money is tight give up the lease and enjoy the hunt on your own land. Nothing is more satisfying than hunting on your own property where you make the rules.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:07 AM   #6
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I just bought my own place. I was tired of leasing after being on two separate leases for only 1 season each. I saw 1 deer on one place and 2 deer on the other all season long. I think I am really going to like owning my own place. I can hunt with my buddies and we all get along great and have a great time vs being subjected to all the lease personalities that you end up with when you lease a spot.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:19 AM   #7
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I have been "lightly" looking for a place to purchase however the max I could afford would be around 200 acres.
I wonder how it would be going from 1,000 to 5,000 acre leases to 200?
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:32 AM   #8
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I have been "lightly" looking for a place to purchase however the max I could afford would be around 200 acres.
I wonder how it would be going from 1,000 to 5,000 acre leases to 200?
The last 2 leases I was on were 3000 - 4000 ac. We have 230 acres. Doesn't bother me at all.
Most leases say you have to hunt your own blind anyways. For me piece of mind is well worth it. For some it won't work downsizing. The thing is you have to look at the other benefits of owning too.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:44 AM   #9
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Live on 114 acres and set to close on the neighbors 85 acres here in the next 2 wks. Love hunting our own land. Saves money for one but there is something special about watching your deer grow and taking a mature buck off your own place. Really nice to come home from work and being only a 5 minute walk away from the blind.

The only hard part is not thinking about the to do list around the house being so close. When you have a lease it's a different environment and to some well worth the money. I'd rather invest the fuel cost, food and equipment into my own place.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:49 AM   #10
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My land is 4 hours and 6.5 hours away respectively in deep east Texas. I will stick with my hill country lease as I know I will see critters.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:54 AM   #11
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I live on 13 acres and gave up a 300 acre place I was leasing. Couldn't see spending $1500 a year for deer no better quality than I see off my own back porch!

Looking for a hill country place just to get away and have numbers and let the kids have numbers to shoot a few doe or see an exotic every once in a while. Other than that I have never regretted getting off the lease.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:57 AM   #12
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We bought our 1st place about 4 years ago. We had got tired of lease drama /problems. I have to say it is Great having our own place. We originally looked at the Aspermont area to buy. We love the country out there. After sitting down and really thinking it out we knew it would be tough to go as much as we wanted. We average at least 2 trips a month to our place. We love getting out there. Anyways I have kinda been looking for a place to lease or get on in the Aspermont area to see if it is all we want. We have decided that when we retire we are going to buy out there if we like it.I will never be without my own place unless something happens and we can't have it. It is so nice to go to the ranch and not have to worry about what is going to happen next. After dealing with landowners telling us one thing and doing the opposite or dealing with the leases than run with 2 sets of rules or rules changes after getting on it is heaven to own your own hunting land. Good Luck on your decision.
Well it is a GREAT 230 acre place!


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I own land but if I wasn't so busy I'd get on a lease if I could find a decently priced one. I like seeing game too much at my place to shoot them too much.
Yours is a great place too! And I'm like that on my lease...I'd rather watch others shoot. I like growing them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:03 AM   #13
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Owning, IMO, is so much more rewarding, regardless the size. No worries about getting booted off. Hunt when you want, work when you want, cost so much less in long run. Think of it as an investment and your tax bill is your lease cost. Puts it in a different light. Agree about factoring in the other benefits.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:05 AM   #14
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I have a good piece of hunting land, but I have an inexpensive lease with no drama and a wide variety of south Texas critters. Like others have said,
I would rather watch my bucks all year rather than kill them. So the family and I hunt seriously on a lease and just shoot hogs & coyotes at the farm.
Yes, I am blessed and have few other vices now.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:06 AM   #15
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Up until last year I had hunted family land in east Texas. It's low key and its family, so it's nice. We can do whatever we want when we want to do it. The freedom is outstanding. However, I got tired of neighbors killing deer year round and pretty much acting ugly. So I got on a lease for the first time that is located out in the hill country. It's been a great experience. I landed with a fantastic group people and that makes it all well worth it.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:07 AM   #16
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Owning is so much better. I could care less what class deer is there.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:14 AM   #17
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I went from a lease where each hunter had about 500 acres each to hunt to my own 20 acres. I enjoyed hunting my own place much more since I was able to spend more on feeding the deer more than just corn. I went from having 120" hill country deer to killing mid 130" deer every year. Sadly I sold that place and moved to another place and I am starting all over.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:31 AM   #18
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I bought my own place of 230 acres about 5 yrs ago now in Goliad County. I live on it so I get to hunt it when I want to now. I hunt every chance I get and actually get to spend more time improving the place than hunting it. The amount and quality of deer has increased every year I have owned it which makes it even more enjoyable. I have also had a Mule Deer lease in West Texas for the last 10 yrs now. It is fun but still not the same as owning my own place.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:32 AM   #19
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I have never leased, we have some family land about 100 acres. Never killed any giants but we have hogs and deer and I save 2000+ a year. I always look into leases and when it comes time to bite the bullet I just can't do it. I'm a penny pincher though. I enjoy just having somewhere to go and have some fun and watch some wildlife
Exactly...Me too

Did kill an upper 130's and 150+ tho in 9 years. SO I will take it
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:26 PM   #20
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My only regret is now that I have kids, and my oldest will be ready in the next year or two. Going from the Brady area where you would see 15-50 deer + turkey + quail every sit vs. how I grew up in east Texas just hoping to see something a season. I like the challenge and don't miss the expense and headaches but like everyone, I want to see my kids have opportunity at success
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:04 PM   #21
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I leased 1400 acres near Ballinger for 18 years, then bought a 217 acre place in Rusk Co. about six years ago. Bigger deer on my East Texas place, but lots less of them. No turkeys, no quail, no doves. I had all that at Ballinger, plus more deer than we could shoot. In fact, we had trouble killing twenty does a year, which was our target number. Some years we made it, most years killed 16/18 before we all had freezers stuffed. I had to invite folks down to kill a few does just to get to that number as there were only four of us hunting on it. No lease drama, as I paid all the lease and nobody hunted except those invited. The individuals changed very little through the 18 years I leased it.

The regrets: Just two. I really miss the spring turkey hunting and I miss the fact that I could bowhunt there easier than here. More deer, and more consistent. Oh, and no frickin hogs ! Had cows though, and they're almost as bad, except for the rooting. One thing I don't miss is the 5.5/6 hour drive on a Friday night just to hunt a day and a piece, then the same drive back home. All in all, I'm glad I bought my place, because I can do whatever I want on it, as opposed to leasing.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #22
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When we moved here I really hoped hope to buy something with enough acres to hunt but I needed to be within commuting distance of the airport (DFW) for my job so we just couldn't seem to make that happen. I would still love to buy some land for hunting vs leasing but not sure if it's in the budget anytime soon. I hunted only 50 acres in Ohio and we killed deer every year, granted we never took any monster bucks. But I don't need thousands of acres to enjoy myself with my bow chasing critters.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:18 PM   #23
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recently purchased my own place.. it's much smaller than my lease, (lease was 1600 acres... my place is 100 acres) but I hope to never pay for a lease again.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:42 PM   #24
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recently purchased my own place.. it's much smaller than my lease, (lease was 1600 acres... my place is 100 acres) but I hope to never pay for a lease again.
This..
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:45 PM   #25
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I had a friend who let me hunt "for free" for several years and I was happy to help with work around there for him etc. He decided due to a couple lost bow shot deer that he would no longer allow bow hunting, so I bought a tiny little 10 acre place and couldn't be happier.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:58 PM   #26
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Have up lease hunting in 2002 and bought my property in 2003 and have never looked back.


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Old 03-20-2017, 06:03 PM   #27
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I'll miss the lease. Love the hill country. And at my age I question if it were worth it but I don't have to deal with any unreasonable or reactionary issues now. But the hunting won't be as good.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:02 PM   #28
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My wife and I bought a place 4 years ago and have no regrets. Not very big but it's river bottom and goes to the river so it's like an oasis for game. We have more axis than whitetail now, as well as pigs and turkey.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:08 PM   #29
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Bought my own place 16 years ago n never looked back
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:23 PM   #30
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I own. Have never been on a lease. If I had the money to both lease a big property and own a small one, I don't think that is the route I'd go. My preference would be owning a small property of my own for Texas game and then spending a few grand extra each year on DIY western game hunts.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:23 PM   #31
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I bought my own place 13 years ago. I went from having two spots in South Texas and hunting about 1,000 acres down to 330 acres that I bought. It was one of the best decisions I ever made. I was tired of messing with landowners and their ever changing rules.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:24 PM   #32
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I was a member of a well ran club in Trinity County. In fact I was the prez for a period (or whatever the position was called). We were early into really starting to manage, great guys, good deer etc, 3,600 acres, etc. However I wanted my own place where what I put into it would have equity. I bought 150 acres down the way from the club (Polk County) about 10 years ago. After two season of juggling I reluctantly gave up my club membership. I still go down and visit and even have taken a doe or two as a guest. There has been ups and downs with my land. I doubt I will ever shoot a deer on my place like they are shooting down at the club, but at the end of the day for me there is more to it than antlers. I believe I have never made a better decision.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:40 PM   #33
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I have to add this....when you buy your land, you have to be able to know when to switch from "working on my land" mode to "enjoying my land" mode. It's been difficult for me, mainly because I enjoy working on the land. During the first several years I was horrible at it....couldn't sit in a deer stand without thinking about all the stuff that I wanted or needed to do. I have gotten better at knowing when to work and when to enjoy.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:47 PM   #34
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I have to add this....when you buy your land, you have to be able to know when to switch from "working on my land" mode to "enjoying my land" mode. It's been difficult for me, mainly because I enjoy working on the land. During the first several years I was horrible at it....couldn't sit in a deer stand without thinking about all the stuff that I wanted or needed to do. I have gotten better at knowing when to work and when to enjoy.
Yep. I still have problems with that 30 years later, because I enjoy the feeling of a completed project. But I still take time to hog hunt every day. And stop to watch the deer and other wildlife.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:00 PM   #35
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I have to add this....when you buy your land, you have to be able to know when to switch from "working on my land" mode to "enjoying my land" mode. It's been difficult for me, mainly because I enjoy working on the land. During the first several years I was horrible at it....couldn't sit in a deer stand without thinking about all the stuff that I wanted or needed to do. I have gotten better at knowing when to work and when to enjoy.
Very well said man!

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:04 PM   #36
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I have to add this....when you buy your land, you have to be able to know when to switch from "working on my land" mode to "enjoying my land" mode. It's been difficult for me, mainly because I enjoy working on the land. During the first several years I was horrible at it....couldn't sit in a deer stand without thinking about all the stuff that I wanted or needed to do. I have gotten better at knowing when to work and when to enjoy.
This is SO TRUE! My wife is always saying slow down & enjoy the place. I get my mind set on doing something & can't let it go. I have gotten a little better at it & realized I can't do it all in a weekend. It is so satisfying to see the place come together though.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:06 PM   #37
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My last place was almost 10k acres and I only had 4 deer on camera in six months! This was my tipping point that led me to buy my own place! It is 360 acres and I don't regret a thing!
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:07 PM   #38
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I have to add this....when you buy your land, you have to be able to know when to switch from "working on my land" mode to "enjoying my land" mode. It's been difficult for me, mainly because I enjoy working on the land. During the first several years I was horrible at it....couldn't sit in a deer stand without thinking about all the stuff that I wanted or needed to do. I have gotten better at knowing when to work and when to enjoy.
I will vote this up too!
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:18 PM   #39
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I've got 2600ac to myself and I'd still get on a lease if it was exactly what I wanted for the right price.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:37 PM   #40
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I'll throw in my two cents.

We have 120 acres of family land. Pigs...few deer. Enough to take a doe every year....probably a buck every other. Saves money for sure. Mom lives there, so not like coming. Good living conditions! Lol

The bad thing is that I don't have several buddies to meet there....cook together....tell lies around the campfire. There's also no real excitement about seeing that big monster step out. It's more just hunting for the table. Those kind of things are what I miss about the lease.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:40 PM   #41
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My dad owns some land 1 hour from our deer lease. It's the best of both worlds, especially since our lease is MLDP 3. We hunt the lease in October, dad's place in November, then back at the lease December through January. By that point the regulars at the lease have educated the big bucks to their presence so they've moved into the quiet areas where dad and I hunt and are much more relaxed, easier to kill.

We've both thought about giving up the lease but it's just too good to pass up.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:52 PM   #42
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I tend to spend time and money on a place. And I don't have enough of either to do both. But if I did I would.

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:53 PM   #43
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I'm 46 and hunted 1200 acres just east of Bronte every since I was 5. My granddad was lease manager, it was distant family land. When he died 5 years ago, I took my inheritance and bought 55 acres in NE Tx...couldn't be happier. Not as many deer, but I spend lots of time out there with my parents and kids. My dads pretty old, but he's more active at the property...he even commented how he feels better at the property. My parents watch my son while I hunt, he's now 5. I started taking him when he was 1. Even my 10 year old princess daughter digs the woods.

I can't live in the woods, gotta live in the metromess for work...but I get out there every chance I get. Wish my wife liked it more, but she lets me go several times a month. At the end of the month, I'm having 10 high school buddies out for a 28 year high school reunion. Try doing that at a lease.

I'm fortunate. Even tho it's only 55 acres, I feel like a king out there.
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:13 AM   #44
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nice thread. nothing like coming and going as you please, and inviting only those you want to be around. leases are only as good as the people on it.
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