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Old 03-17-2017, 05:46 PM   #1
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Default 1-4, 1-6, 1-8 AR optic questions.

I'm looking for a "do all" optic, preferably a low variable power going on a higher end lightweight 16" 5.56 build. Does anyone have any suggestions on what they like the most out of a do all optic

Ranges will be 25' to 300yards , think hogs and coyotes...must be illuminated.

I would really like to stay in the 1-6+ range because my eyes suck.

I have looked at the sig tango 6 1-6
Vortex razor hd 1-6
Trijicon 1-8
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I would like to keep it under $1500

Or, have you found a 2-7, 2-10, 3-9etc to be a better fit?

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Old 03-17-2017, 06:07 PM   #2
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:10 PM   #3
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After putting one on my gun, I'm not a fan of the 24ish mm objective scopes on a hunting gun. They don't gather enough light.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:16 PM   #4
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After putting one on my gun, I'm not a fan of the 24ish mm objective scopes on a hunting gun. They don't gather enough light.


Thanks for your input, I have thought about that too and will keep that in mind.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:27 PM   #5
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I have the Leupold VX-R Patrol, 1x4, with the light up red dot in the middle. Really like the set up on my AR.

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Old 03-17-2017, 06:28 PM   #6
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Default 1-4, 1-6, 1-8 AR optic questions.

Nikon P-223 or M-223

Although I do like the Primary Arms 1x6

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Old 03-17-2017, 06:31 PM   #7
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Nikon P-223 or M-223

Although I do like the Primary Arms 1x6

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Looking for premium optics, not putting a $200 optic on a $2500 ar. Once you have good glass you'll never look back
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:35 PM   #8
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I have the Leupold VX-R Patrol, 1x4, with the light up red dot in the middle. Really like the set up on my AR.


I've considered this, but it is not a true 1x. Nice looking for thenproce though
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:39 PM   #9
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I have leupold VX6 1-6 multi gun scope with Fire Dot on my SBR and have been extremely pleased with it so far.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:41 PM   #10
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I have leupold VX6 1-6 multi gun scope with Fire Dot on my SBR and have been extremely pleased with it so far.


How is the thickness of the reticle at 6x?
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:52 PM   #11
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For a pure hunting scope, I'd go with a bigger tube as mentioned before. More field of view, increased light gathering and greater magnification.

For the 1x6 group, here's my .02

Vortex HD Gen II with the JM-1 reticle sits atop all of my game guns (JP rifles) Great scope, excellent illumination, great glass. I add side mounted irons for 50 yards and closer shots.

The Swarovski's are over the $1500 limit, and after having run a 1x6 and comparing it to the Vortex, I sold it. Glass is very similar to me, and I preferred the set-up, features and reticle on the Vortex.

Not a big fan of the Trijicon variable for the price. I have a 4x that I really like and run side mounted irons with.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:53 PM   #12
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Mine has the CM-R2 reticle in it and I like it alot. On real dark targets in low light I occasionally lose the center dot but never had a problem because the outer circle is illuminated. It works well just put what you want to hit in the center of the circle and fire.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:04 PM   #13
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Just received a trijicon accupower 1-8x in the mail. Playing with it around the house, I like it quite a lot except for the weight. Hopefully I'll get some range time soon to box test it and see how well it illuminates in the daytime.

I also have a bushnell SFP 1-6.5x which is decent, but its eyebox isn't too great.

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Old 03-17-2017, 10:26 PM   #14
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With your budget look for quality glass in a 1-4.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:28 PM   #15
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Zeiss just came out with a Conquest v6

Probably in the 1200$ range looking at MSRP

Not sure when they'll hit shelves
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:51 PM   #16
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With your budget look for quality glass in a 1-4.
Why, when you can get a vortex razor HD 1-6 for less than that?
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:56 AM   #17
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:27 AM   #18
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Preferences of ffp or sfp? It seems some of the ffp reticles are extremely small at 1x and aubtensions are almost unreadable, they're a price jump too in most cases.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:57 AM   #19
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Why, when you can get a vortex razor HD 1-6 for less than that?
His budget. German glass/tolerance/quality control worth the money if you re willing to spend it. 300 yards you don't need a 6x zoom.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:24 PM   #20
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This would be my choice if I was dropping the coin...

Leupold Mark 6 1-6
https://youtu.be/eM4E85a_ktY
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:51 PM   #21
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Preferences of ffp or sfp? It seems some of the ffp reticles are extremely small at 1x and aubtensions are almost unreadable, they're a price jump too in most cases.
I'm typically not a FFP fan for the reasons you stated, but I think they may be ideal on rifles used at very close (home defense/predator hunting) ranges, as long as the scope also has an illuminated dot.

At 1x, the "clutter" on the reticle will disappear and you aim using the dot with the wide portions of the duplex reticle drawing your eye to it, like a German #4 reticle. When you zoom in for longer shots, the drop/windage markings appear as needed.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:27 PM   #22
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Check the newer Steiner's out also. 30mm tube
http://www.steiner-optics.com/riflescopes/t5xi-1-5x24


I'm gonna get a TX5i 5-25X56 for my rifle. It has a 34mm tube.


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Old 03-18-2017, 08:14 PM   #23
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Check the newer Steiner's out also. 30mm tube
http://www.steiner-optics.com/riflescopes/t5xi-1-5x24


I'm gonna get a TX5i 5-25X56 for my rifle. It has a 34mm tube.


And I like the built in level in their rings.



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Yeah I've been reading more and more about the steiner...it's on the list. Really digging the Leupold vx6 multigun due to it being less than 15oz.
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This would be my choice if I was dropping the coin...

Leupold Mark 6 1-6
https://youtu.be/eM4E85a_ktY


Looks nice but a little spendy
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:20 PM   #25
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I just picked one of these up for a Rem 700 AAC 308 w/ 16" barrel.

So far Ive been very impressed: Vortex Razon HD Gen II

Ended up getting it for $1,289.96 shipped.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:51 PM   #26
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There ain't nothing light about a Vortex Razor HD 1-6.

The VX6 mulitigun is very nice.


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Old 03-20-2017, 08:10 AM   #27
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There ain't nothing light about a Vortex Razor HD 1-6.

The VX6 mulitigun is very nice.


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Looking closely at the Leupold multigun and Steiner as well, they seem on par with what I'm looking for, Steiner has the advantage in brighter dot, Leupold is lighter and 6x
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I have leupold VX6 1-6 multi gun scope with Fire Dot on my SBR and have been extremely pleased with it so far.
For the amount you have to spend, this is where I would put my money. The CMR reticle is sweet and with a max 6x power it can reach out with no issues.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:52 AM   #29
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The 2-12 is a better hunting optic
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The 2-12 is a better hunting optic


I have considered this with offset irons, from what I understand a larger objective will be better for low light transmission
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I have considered this with offset irons, from what I understand a larger objective will be better for low light transmission


The goal is to keep the objective diameter/magnification ratio at 4 or higher. The 1-6x24 does that.


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I just bought the Vortex Strike Eagle 1x6x24 for my AR build with scope and mount think I was around 600 after tax and I've been pretty impressed so far. Only gone out to 200 yds with it so far.
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It's just a more useful magnification range.
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I went from a 1-6 gen II razor HD to a 2-12x42 VX6 on my last SBR build. Still light. Great glass and good high end power. But still low enough to get a fast focus on and shoot quick and accurate. Eye box isn't as big as the razor but it serves me well.

Not much difference in brightness between it and my razor. That's my strong recommendation.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:11 PM   #36
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I had an awesome 1-4 and liked it but found myself shooting at 100 or more and ended up wanting more magnification.. went with 4-12, but if you want that lower end power of go 1-8, for sure! I went with Leupold VX-R on my AR15 and AR10... great scope for $450- $500

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