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Old 03-03-2017, 11:34 PM   #151
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Exactly what i expected

You mention in one post that its not Uncommon for politicians to meet with dignitaries from other countries then somehow see these same type meetings from Trump associates as possibily scandalous.

There are no flames to be fanned, theres no smoke.

Its all a democrat and media farce that way to many low information people

Cant and dont want to see.


If you're telling the truth an investigation won't hurt.
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I did say it is not uncommon for politicians to meet with foreign ambassadors. That is not what is at question. There are a lot of "smoke" factors in play here.



Look at the leaking of pro-Trump documents by the Russians, all the Trump quotes about Putin over the last several years, look at Trump's campaign manager's Russian ties, Flynn not being straight about talks with Russia and resigning.



Now Sessions saying he didn't meet with any Russians. Then he did not meet with any Russians in context of the campaign.



Any one of those may not be a huge issue by itself but all together that is a lot of smoke. How can you two sit here and defend the administration tooth and nail....that there is nothing to see here??? Who are the ones that can't or don't want to at least question the possibility of shady dealings with the Russians? I am not saying there is or there isn't but I sure see a possibility that should be investigated. AND just because you say the other side did it does not make it right.


Flywise would be losing his mind if this was a Democratic administration.


You know; lock her up, lock her up, lock her up

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So your option is just forget it?

Good luck with that option, not happening

How about Trump needs to run his administration with a little more transparency and stop acting like he's hiding something?


You can complain about it. You don't have the power to change it. Status Quo


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Lol, but there are people in power that are going to make it happen
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I did say it is not uncommon for politicians to meet with foreign ambassadors. That is not what is at question. There are a lot of "smoke" factors in play here.

Look at the leaking of pro-Trump documents by the Russians, all the Trump quotes about Putin over the last several years, look at Trump's campaign manager's Russian ties, Flynn not being straight about talks with Russia and resigning.

Now Sessions saying he didn't meet with any Russians. Then he did not meet with any Russians in context of the campaign.

Any one of those may not be a huge issue by itself but all together that is a lot of smoke. How can you two sit here and defend the administration tooth and nail....that there is nothing to see here??? Who are the ones that can't or don't want to at least question the possibility of shady dealings with the Russians? I am not saying there is or there isn't but I sure see a possibility that should be investigated. AND just because you say the other side did it does not make it right.
This whole place st proves you get your opinions are based on the dem talking point of there must be something fishy going on.

Sessions met with the russian as a senator, the question he was asked was in the context of being in the trump campaign, his answer was 100% truthful answer. Flynn's meeting was in the context of an incoming American dignitary grtting to know someone he was going to probably meet with many times over the next 4 years. And because im old enough and have paid attention the last 30 years i know that every time a republican has some power the dems and the media ALWAYS attempt to create scandals in order to prevent republicans from getting things done. And, with the ignorance of a large portion of the population of this country if very easy for them to do. The only thing that needs to go on from here is, TRUMP needs to pretty much tell the dems and the media that they can pizz off. The biggest problem here is that the republicans in congress are gutless, and wont stand their ground and always cave to these ridiculous accusations.
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The biggest problem here is that congress is gutless, and wont stand their ground and always cave to these ridiculous accusations.


Fify


It's just not Republicans it's the whole group.


They have been letting the executive office take power from them for decades.

Spineless losers need to stand up
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The Russian connection

So far... More keep joining the club

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And Pelosi and Schumer
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And Pelosi and Schumer


This is an investigation of the trump administration. However, if they colluded w/Russia and there are Democrats involved, they are just as guilty.




Breaking news: Trump claims Obama tapped trump towers during the election. Thanks for confirming the involvement on the FISA court.
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And Pelosi and Schumer
Those folks dont fit into the xbow ( socialists) narrative
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Those folks dont fit into the xbow ( socialists) narrative


If you can find someone interested in investigating them, then by all means start your own investigation
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Yup it's a conspiracy. Hahaha. Wish they could wipe away their tears with their tin foil hats.

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The democrats have a long history of trying to discredit and destroy Sessions
But again, the simple minded wont care to look this up.
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:06 AM   #166
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I think this is as much about getting under Trump's skin and keeping him in emotional tirades as much as it is about soiling his admin. I think those that want him gone know he is more likely to self implode than anything.

One thing is for sure NOTHING positive is getting done in the White House or Congress. I'm not saying it should be ignored or swept under the rug, but if this is just political gaming then move on
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AND just because you say the other side did it does not make it right.
This truly needs to stop if WE are going to straighten OUR ills out as a country. One wrong or 50 wrongs don't make it right for a another group to do the same!!! Being dug in like a tick for either/any party is proving to be a significant part of our undoing as Americans.
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There is no way this nation is going to come though anything un-scathed as little ng as the media is a tool of one political ideology, and half the country is as dumb as it appears to be.
There are huge forces tearing at this country in an attempt to destroy everything it has meant to the world for 250 years. Unfortunately most of those forces are not found outside the borders of the US
I will always remain optimistic but vigilant. Just part of my DNA. Being scathed may not be the worse thing either. Being scathed could possibly be the lesson we need for righting the ship. .....no matter who is being scuffed up in the process. If there is "fire" I hope it reaches deep into the halls of Congress regardless of silly party affiliations.

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Old 03-04-2017, 10:29 AM   #168
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I think this is as much about getting under Trump's skin and keeping him in emotional tirades as much as it is about soiling his admin. I think those that want him gone know he is more likely to self implode than anything.

One thing is for sure NOTHING positive is getting done in the White House or Congress. I'm not saying it should be ignored or swept under the rug, but if this is just political gaming then move on
You seriously dont think anything is getting done?
Do you pay any attention to the news cycle at all?
Its only been a little over a month and there has already been plenty of forward progress. And if you think all the crap being pulled by the media and the dem party since election day is something as trivial as trying to get under Trumps skin is lacking a basic understanding of democrat political history
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This truly needs to stop if WE are going to straighten OUR ills out as a country. One wrong or 50 wrongs don't make it right for a another group to do the same!!! Being dug in like a tick for either/any party is proving to be a significant part of our undoing as Americans.

I will always remain optimistic but vigilant. Just part of my DNA. Being scathed may not be the worse thing either. Being scathed could possibly be the lesson we need for righting the ship. .....no matter who is being scuffed up in the process. If there is "fire" I hope it reaches deep into the halls of Congress regardless of silly party affiliations.

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I have absolutely no problem with anyone in public office being held accountable or ruined as long as it is is based on actual evidence and fact. That is highly unlikely to be the case unfortunately because all a dem has to do is create an accusation and the media will perpetuate it endlessly until the result they want is accomplished. i fully expect the swamp to be drained from both parties
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I have absolutely no problem with anyone in public office being held accountable or ruined as long as it is is based on actual evidence and fact. That is highly unlikely to be the case unfortunately because all a dem has to do is create an accusation and the media will perpetuate it endlessly until the result they want is accomplished. i fully expect the swamp to be drained from both parties
And this would be a WIN for our nation..........that matters way more to me than continually pointing figures. I wont join the chorus of THEY DID, THEY DO, THEY SAID.........both sides have proven to suck consistently when it comes to doing what is RIGHT for the American citizen over the last 30 years.
As each of those $40,000 a year starving lawyers that win a goofball congressional seat from bum-foot (name a state of your choice) ends up being a millionaire after 4 or 5 terms in office.........it is time to understand and ACCEPT the fix is in on the American citizen.
I leave tomorrow for DC hill visits and once you spend 20 years walking those halls and making those congressional office visits it becomes VERY clear that WE have a "systemic issue" that can only be fixed by starting at the roots.......not trimming the tree.
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And this would be a WIN for our nation..........that matters way more to me than continually pointing figures. I wont join the chorus of THEY DID, THEY DO, THEY SAID.........both sides have proven to suck consistently when it comes to doing what is RIGHT for the American citizen over the last 30 years.
As each of those $40,000 a year starving lawyers that win a goofball congressional seat from bum-foot (name a state of your choice) ends up being a millionaire after 4 or 5 terms in office.........it is time to understand and ACCEPT the fix is in on the American citizen.
I leave tomorrow for DC hill visits and once you spend 20 years walking those halls and making those congressional office visits it becomes VERY clear that WE have a "systemic issue" that can only be fixed by starting at the roots.......not trimming the tree.
I agree 100%
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You seriously dont think anything is getting done?
Do you pay any attention to the news cycle at all?
Its only been a little over a month and there has already been plenty of forward progress. And if you think all the crap being pulled by the media and the dem party since election day is something as trivial as trying to get under Trumps skin is lacking a basic understanding of democrat political history
Same team! Same team!

Yes but EO's are only valid while the responsible Exec is in office, a la Trump's undoing of Obama's EO's. They are a band aid where major surgery needs to occur.

Has congress done anything meaningful yet? Nope, not really. Are they distracted and focused on this mess rather than top priorities? Yes!

Does Trump look like an imbicil stating that Trump towers phone lines have been tapped? Yes! I may eat those words if they are true, but I highly doubt the previous admin tapped Trumps phone lines.

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Trump towers phone lines have been tapped? Yes! I may eat those words if they are true, but I highly doubt the previous admin tapped Trumps phone lines.
Lord help us! This is NOT something else he/we need to be chasing. All outlets are saying there is zero evidence as it must be approved by the FBI, unilateral wiretaps by a sitting President cannot be done. Hoover screwed that pooch back in the 50's!
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This truly needs to stop if WE are going to straighten OUR ills out as a country. One wrong or 50 wrongs don't make it right for a another group to do the same!!! Being dug in like a tick for either/any party is proving to be a significant part of our undoing as Americans.

I will always remain optimistic but vigilant. Just part of my DNA. Being scathed may not be the worse thing either. Being scathed could possibly be the lesson we need for righting the ship. .....no matter who is being scuffed up in the process. If there is "fire" I hope it reaches deep into the halls of Congress regardless of silly party affiliations.

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Agreed Oscar. Gonna take a BIG painful slap in the American Publics face before we wake up and realized that we're getting played by both sides. Sad! Ever wonder why the country is more divided now then anytime in the last century? Ever wonder who benefits ($$$) from a divided country? Ever wonder what's different now that wasn't the case before we had all of this division?


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Has anyone heard any Russian connection news since Trump called them ( the media and Obama) out?
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Nope. Seems ingenious in retrospect. The media was constantly driving a story with zero proof or sources. Trump drops a story via Twitter with zero proof or sources. Media: you can't have a narrative without proof or sources and........ of crap.


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Nope. Seems ingenious in retrospect. The media was constantly driving a story with zero proof or sources. Trump drops a story via Twitter with zero proof or sources. Media: you can't have a narrative without proof or sources and........ of crap.


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Has anyone heard any Russian connection news since Trump called them ( the media and Obama) out?
A hearing is set for March 20th for parties of the Trump campaign to attend including Flynn, Manafort & others. Those that refuse will be subpoenaed.

Also some pc fingerprints show that a Russian Bank server has made 2800 attempts to contact or contacted a server in Trump Tower
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Isn't this what intelligence agencies do? It has been happening since the dawn of recorded history. We do it, they do it. It's not like the United States has never tried to influence an election or two.
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A hearing is set for March 20th for parties of the Trump campaign to attend including Flynn, Manafort & others. Those that refuse will be subpoenaed.

Also some pc fingerprints show that a Russian Bank server has made 2800 attempts to contact or contacted a server in Trump Tower
With the new Wikileaks dump, it is now known that the CIA can put a false fingerprint on computer activity, so was it REALLY a Russian Bank server?
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Isn't this what intelligence agencies do? It has been happening since the dawn of recorded history. We do it, they do it. It's not like the United States has never tried to influence an election or two.
Barrack did it openly, on national television.
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Saw on the news that Flynn was paid half a mil as a foreign agent for Turkey. There are also photos floating around of him at a dinner with Putin. I don't know all the details but sure doesn't sound like Trump's team did a very thorough job of vetting their pick for National Security Adviser. Hopefully they did a better job vetting the more important cabinet positions
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Saw on the news that Flynn was paid half a mil as a foreign agent for Turkey. There are also photos floating around of him at a dinner with Putin. I don't know all the details but sure doesn't sound like Trump's team did a very thorough job of vetting their pick for National Security Adviser. Hopefully they did a better job vetting the more important cabinet positions
I thought the same. Vetting is a process not a favoritism selection. Just all so strange.

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I thought the same. Vetting is a process not a favoritism selection. Just all so strange.

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You mean kind of like the way o-bummer handed out ambassadorship appointments...
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You mean kind of like the way o-bummer handed out ambassadorship appointments...
Not really, but it sounds good! Ambassadors are the huge donors to parties or candidates. MUCH different selection process. Honestly, 1 or 50 wrongs don't mean they should do the same! Huge part of our problem is that attitude of "they did it" or "supposedly they screwed folks" why not us! These appointments are honestly key if we truly care about this nation......and the business of being a world power.

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Not really, but it sounds good! Ambassadors are the huge donors to parties or candidates. MUCH different selection process. Honestly, 1 or 50 wrongs don't mean they should do the same! Huge part of our problem is that attitude of "they did it" or "supposedly they screwed folks" why not us! These appointments are honestly key if we truly care about this nation......and the business of being a world power.

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totally agree with you Oscar! But just watch what the libtards try to do to the SCOTUS nominee when the hearings begin. That will be a real sign as to where we are headed over the next 2-8 years. Ineed it is a sad deal.
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totally agree with you Oscar! But just watch what the libtards try to do to the SCOTUS nominee when the hearings begin. That will be a real sign as to where we are headed over the next 2-8 years. Ineed it is a sad deal.
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Saw on the news that Flynn was paid half a mil as a foreign agent for Turkey. There are also photos floating around of him at a dinner with Putin. I don't know all the details but sure doesn't sound like Trump's team did a very thorough job of vetting their pick for National Security Adviser. Hopefully they did a better job vetting the more important cabinet positions


Vetting doesn't get much more thorough then Stars on your collar. He was just an idiot, that was his problem.


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With the new Wikileaks dump, it is now known that the CIA can put a false fingerprint on computer activity, so was it REALLY a Russian Bank server?
I'm not an attorney but maybe a subpoena of the Trump server would show activity or transactions
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Picking an idiot to advise you on National Security doesn't sound much better than un-thorough vetting. Hopefully somebody put a little more thought into the other cabinet picks.
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Picking an idiot to advise you on National Security doesn't sound much better than un-thorough vetting. Hopefully somebody put a little more thought into the other cabinet picks.


Idiot when it came to how he handled a certain situation. Look up the Generals Bio. I assure you few are more qualified to be the NSA than Flynn.


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Do you think he was idiot or the man who picked him ??

Flynn was paid was by foreign agent for Turkey & guess who has business interest Istanbul
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Wonder if they actually interview these NSA picks or if somebody just pulls a name out of a hat??? After Flynn was fired they announced Harward as NSA. He was like...."uh, no thanks". You would have thought he would have at least accepted the position before they made the announcement. Just strange stuff all around.
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It's just not Republicans it's the whole group.
They have been letting the executive office take power from them for decades. Spineless losers need to stand up
BINGO.........and what makes me loose sleep is that folks that are dug-in on the RIGHT or LEFT nationally cant see this!!!!! I am really afraid that is a TACTIC...........divide and conquer!!!
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NOW, that is apparently very true. He loss his mind once he retired as the man was incredible in his uniformed years!
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I thought I was the ONLY person that noticed that. I actually thought I had imaged it since I never saw it on TBH......lol!
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:30 PM   #195
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Its a bit fishy, but honestly its not that surprising for anyone in government to be affiliating with the Russians. They're the strongest/largest superpower in the east, and that position has only flourished with the lack of us doing anything meaningful in the middle east the last 8 years. Thats why this narrative doesn't really make sense. I'm sure the administration has interest in building ties, but the Russian's don't get much out of Trump winning, and in fact lose depending on him doing what he says (which he has thus far).
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The Russia connection just won't stop.

To the OP, if you're tired of hearing about this now, just wait
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Article from Hillsdale College about Russia and Putin

By the way, if you don't subscribe to Imprimis you should. They are worth reading.
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Seems to be back and on top of the news cycles with everyone......ouch!!!

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Lots of news stories are or have been fueled by clowns that pose as journalist. I personally have zero trust in any "headline story" or "breaking news" reports. Seems like both political parties are disguised as journalists and have their own news channel. It's scary when the media blatantly tries to skew stories for no other reason than to align the narrative to favor their political favorites. Intentional Misinformation by the national media should be considered as dangerous as foreign countries trying to influence our national elections.

As an example, zero coverage of the Maryland rape case by the liberal media because they fill it will lead to additional public support for stopping illegal immigration.
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Very good
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