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Old 02-16-2017, 08:18 PM   #51
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They graded the road in front of my house again. Went for a stroll and picked up some more rocks Too bad it got dark before I could bust any of them up.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:35 AM   #52
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It is the same material bassmatt. Need some? Jason Fry, you have access to alibates in your neck of the woods?
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:20 AM   #53
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It is the same material bassmatt. Need some? Jason Fry, you have access to alibates in your neck of the woods?
No alibates nearby. It's usually further north up in the panhandle.
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:29 AM   #54
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It is the same material bassmatt. Need some? Jason Fry, you have access to alibates in your neck of the woods?
I might trade some central Texas chert for a couple of pieces! Don't make too much of an extra effort but throw a few in the bucket for me just incase we can get together!
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:31 AM   #55
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They graded the road in front of my house again. Went for a stroll and picked up some more rocks Too bad it got dark before I could bust any of them up.
Is that your only source of rocks? Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you some of what I have!
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:52 AM   #56
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Is that your only source of rocks? Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you some of what I have!
Yes and no. I had a buddy bring me a bunch from the Concho river as well. About 1/3 of the stuff from the road knapps well, and about 1/2 of the Concho stuff. I also bought some Keokuk, dacite, heat treated Texas, and obsidian from Neolithics at Christmas. I've got plenty of rocks to play with, and I can be a bit discriminating on only using the ones that work well.
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Old 02-18-2017, 07:18 AM   #57
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Hope we can get together next month. I will give you some cholla if we do. The knife in my avatar is sitting on a metate that I found here in New Mexico years ago and the antler drop is a matched set 6 point that I found next to the RV Park we stay at in Texas. The owner gave me permission to walk around the vacant land next to the park and pick up anything I wanted and I found 18 antler drops in two days.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:10 PM   #58
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Hope we can get together next month. I will give you some cholla if we do. The knife in my avatar is sitting on a metate that I found here in New Mexico years ago and the antler drop is a matched set 6 point that I found next to the RV Park we stay at in Texas. The owner gave me permission to walk around the vacant land next to the park and pick up anything I wanted and I found 18 antler drops in two days.
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Old 02-20-2017, 08:35 AM   #59
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I have been known to make a little gravel from time to time. Arthur-itus don't like it when I do this anymore.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:28 PM   #60
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Nice work Muzzlebrake!
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Old 02-20-2017, 07:20 PM   #61
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Such beautiful work. I can never get tired of looking at the fine art of fling knapping. This thread deserves to be brought back to the top. Rock on gentlemen and ladies!
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:40 PM   #62
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Such beautiful work. I can never get tired of looking at the fine art of fling knapping. This thread deserves to be brought back to the top. Rock on gentlemen and ladies!
Thanks!!! I'll try and post some actual explanations, definitions, how and whys later.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:19 AM   #63
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That's impressive


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Old 02-21-2017, 08:04 AM   #64
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outstanding work Muzzlebrake
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:55 AM   #65
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Here are some of my early ones from back in 2008-2009...






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Old 02-21-2017, 11:56 AM   #66
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This one I did for my boss, and good friend, who let me get my first archery deer at his ranch.


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Old 02-21-2017, 12:06 PM   #67
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Nice work on the Eden.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:26 PM   #68
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Here are a couple matching walleye knives I did for my wife's uncles (two of my best friends)




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Old 02-21-2017, 01:25 PM   #69
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Very nice!!!
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:53 AM   #70
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crumrw: Outstanding work/ You do the scrimshaw work on the handles?
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:45 AM   #71
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Thank you, and yes I did the scrimshaw work. The deer was my first, followed by the feather, the two walleyes, and then finally the duck. Still getting my feet wet.
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:55 PM   #72
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You are quicklearner. OUTSTANDING work.
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:02 PM   #73
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:04 PM   #74
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this is something I have been interested in for a few years and never followed through with it. I will be watching several videos when I get home on how to. Can some of you post pictures of the tools you use to knapp please? I am interested in seeing the different types of tools being used. I have a good source of rock down in kimble county I just need tools and know how. Subscribed to the thread
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:01 PM   #75
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.........lets talk tools. I use "modern" copper tools and hammerstones some. All my tools are homebuilt.
First a quick pic of where i knapp, my back porch. It faces south and the sun sets nicely in the evenings making it a relatively warm and protected place to knapp in the early spring, fall and winter.
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two of the basic tools needed to start from a larger rough piece are your bopper and abrader. My abrader is a piece of busted up common grinding wheel and other grinding wheels of various coarseness.
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the abrader is like sandpaper on steroids for stone. We use them to remove areas of stone to thicken and strengthen platforms. Please ask questions if you have any.
Next boppers, used to strike the platform to remove flakes, both large and small. My boppers are basic copper pipe caps that i have melted and filled half way with lead then attached to some type of handle. You can see i have wood and pvc pipe handles. The largest is 2" all the way down to 1/2", basically bigger tool bigger flakes of material removed- smaller bopper smaller flakes.
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:13 PM   #76
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Boppers are used to strike flakes of, an Ishi stick and pressure flakers are used to push flakes off. The Ishi sticks are usually 18" or longer so you can really build up some force. Mine use a short piece of copper grounding wire as the tips. Ishi stick:
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Horse shoe nails are also commonly used for really small detailed stuff and notching. The points of both these tools need to be kept fairly sharp and pointed. Mine needs reshaped in these pics., haven't done maintenance on them in a while.
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:19 AM   #77
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Boppers are used to strike flakes of, an Ishi stick and pressure flakers are used to push flakes off. The Ishi sticks are usually 18" or longer so you can really build up some force. Mine use a short piece of copper grounding wire as the tips. Ishi stick:

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Horse shoe nails are also commonly used for really small detailed stuff and notching. The points of both these tools need to be kept fairly sharp and pointed. Mine needs reshaped in these pics., haven't done maintenance on them in a while.


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Old 02-23-2017, 11:58 AM   #78
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Mine are almost identical to bassmatt72
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:26 PM   #79
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Mine are almost identical to bassmatt72
Your tools do better work than mine!
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:47 PM   #80
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Mine are a bit more primitive than Matt's, and don't to as good of work. In my case, it's more the nut behind the hammerstone holding me back than it is the stone itself
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:58 PM   #81
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Your tools do better work than mine!
Naw, we all start somewhere. My first points were made from the bottoms of beer bottles.

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Old 02-24-2017, 08:01 AM   #82
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Finally arrived in San Antonio (25 miles north). Drove from Las Cruces New Mexico in one day. We got pushed by a strong S by SW wind so it made the trip a bit easier. Will take a day or two to get settled in and look for some knapping rock.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:09 AM   #83
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There is some great stuff in that area, north and west of San Antonio. You may try looking around the Guadalupe river.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:07 PM   #84
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Raw rocks:
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Worked into flakes, rough bifaces, and cooked and uncooked cleaner bifaces:
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Loaded into flat rate box and sent to Jason!!! Only thing I ask is you work some into points and post how it works and your progress!:
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:10 PM   #85
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Some early points. Now I'm going fishing and it will be late tonight before I get home!
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:56 PM   #86
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Wow, thanks Matt! That'll give me plenty to play with. I've got a knife show this weekend in Abilene. Plan on putting some of my knapped stuff on the table to give away to kids and get folks to stop and talk. I've got 25 points all under 2" or so. They're crude enough that I don't mind handing them out for free
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:01 PM   #87
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Finally arrived in San Antonio (25 miles north). Drove from Las Cruces New Mexico in one day. We got pushed by a strong S by SW wind so it made the trip a bit easier. Will take a day or two to get settled in and look for some knapping rock.
Welcome back to Texas! Let us know how rock hunting goes!
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:25 PM   #88
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Ok, I'm not the most experienced knapper on here but willing to share information. So, here we go. We briefly touched on "platforms" earlier, platforms, as Jason mentioned, is the area where flakes are knocked or pushed off. Here are some pics. of platforms. The black dot is where we want to strike the platform.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:47 PM   #89
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Knappable material "breaks" at a certain angle creating a Hertzian cone, the BB hitting a window example. Here is an illustration from "The Art of Flint Knapping" by D.C. Waldorf.
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Then here is a series of pictures showing a flake I removed. Also, flakes tend to follow ridges.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:48 PM   #90
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I have thousands of pounds of good stone , stuff from all over the country , also a bunch of slab material. Was into it many years ago and only do a few points a year now. Could do some trading for it if anyone is interested. I'm basically interested in anything outdoors related hunting and fishing...

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Old 02-24-2017, 09:55 PM   #91
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Sam!!! Mighty tempting to do some trading! Please share some knowledge!
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:03 PM   #92
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An Obsidian blade with some nice banding in it.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:20 PM   #93
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Not much knowledge here , l just made big rocks into little rocks. But you name the material and I most likely have it I bet I have over 5 thousand pounds of good stone just sitting behind my shop.....

Years ago I would make all the Knapp-ins and shows and sell and trade rock...

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Old 02-25-2017, 08:19 AM   #94
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Wow! Those look great! Really like the Montell.
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PM sent Sam.
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If anyone knows of upcoming knappins that they are attending or that they would reccommend please post. I have never knapped with anyone else before and could use some help on techniques, thinner points and better flaking patterns. Tough to learn just by watching youtube videos.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:49 AM   #97
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Red_RaiderHTC, some nice looking work!
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:12 AM   #98
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Sam has some good rock. He fixed me up with some good stuff back when I first started knapping. I really liked working with the rootbeer and Georgetown blue and Georgetown black. Love them pancakes. Lots of good flints/cherts come from Texas. Arkansas and Ohio too.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:29 AM   #99
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Red_RaiderHTC, some nice looking work!
Thank you. But as you can see i struggle with sending flakes to the centerline on anything over like 2" wide. I need some help from an experienced knapper. As reccomended earlier i will try to attend some knapp-ins.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:46 PM   #100
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this is something I have been interested in for a few years and never followed through with it. I will be watching several videos when I get home on how to. Can some of you post pictures of the tools you use to knapp please? I am interested in seeing the different types of tools being used. I have a good source of rock down in kimble county I just need tools and know how. Subscribed to the thread
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