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Old 12-04-2016, 06:33 AM   #51
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It is a target rich environment. That is an issue though because having them so close it puts a lot of eyes on you. I shot a doe at 9 yards who was running around snorting and scaring off the other deer so she could have the corn pile to her self. She finally gave me a broadside shot and I hurried it and hit her bad. Found her in the pond the next morning. Don't want a repeat of that so it's going to have to be perfect for me to shoot one.

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Bottom limb hit blind floor when shooting at the short tine ten this morning. I'm admitting defeat here at my lease. None of my set ups are conducive to traditional shooting and trying to "make it work" isn't working. I will save a doe tag to see if I can take one at our new place that has a couple of set ups I can shoot from.Name:  20161204_073020.jpg
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I may try to spot and stalk some pigs as well.

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Gary, feel free to PM your number to me and I can likely help you out with your blind- setups. Not to brag but I once killed as many critters as Bisch.
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Gary, feel free to PM your number to me and I can likely help you out with your blind- setups. Not to brag but I once killed as many critters as Bisch.


Ha! I once killed as many critters as Bisch too! Not having a good place to hunt sucks rotten eggs!

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Old 12-04-2016, 04:40 PM   #55
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I will have to rethink this for next year for sure. But I'm looking forward to the challenge. I may swing around to the ranch for a hunt or two before I go home and try for one there where I did set up accordingly.

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Bottom limb hit blind floor when shooting at the short tine ten this morning. I'm admitting defeat here at my lease. None of my set ups are conducive to traditional shooting and trying to "make it work" isn't working. I will save a doe tag to see if I can take one at our new place that has a couple of set ups I can shoot from.Attachment 828721
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Sorry to hear that! I'm pretty sure Murphy was a trad shooter, and that is where his Law came from!!!

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Well I am fortunate to have multiple hunting opportunities. There are always pigs if I don't get a deer so I will just have to follow the learning curve.

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Got a new glove. Shot with it today. I like how much it protects my fingers but it took a little getting used to. I used my tag at my lease with my training wheels. I didn't get to practice much there and worked the last three days. Did get to shoot today and found I still could ride the bike. Daniel said my string was shipping. Looking forward to getting that. Hopefully next week I will take a day or two to go to our ranch where I have a tripod and blind I can easily shoot my recurve from and try again.
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I have a Krivoman blind that I put my own windows in. They are low enough that it would work fine if elevated. That is a beef I have with just about all mfgrd blinds. They put the windows so high that you can see the sky fine, but they interfere with really close shots, esp when elevated. I don't care about seeing the sky. If most were the same size, but 6" lower, it would really help trad folks out.

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Now you know darn well my windows are that way. I shoot out of my blinds all the time at 6 to 8 foot platforms with no issues. Prob could shoot a deer at 7 yards out of the 6 and about 10 yards out of the 8
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Now you know darn well my windows are that way. I shoot out of my blinds all the time at 6 to 8 foot platforms with no issues. Prob could shoot a deer at 7 yards out of the 6 and about 10 yards out of the 8
Sorry, I was not implying that there was something wrong with your blinds! They are by far the best ground blinds I have ever hunted from. I do not have one elevated, so i don't know first hand on that. In just about all popups, the windows are too high for trad shooters. Something that the avg compound shooter has no issues with, can be problems for trad guys sometimes because of the different geometries of the bows.

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Old 12-13-2016, 07:03 PM   #61
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Mitch the windows weren't my issue. My short little ***** trying to shoot a 62" bow at an animal at 7 yards away. When I shot out to 12 yards I was fine. It was a matter of my lack of experience with shooting a recurve from an elevated blind. Or any blind for that matter.

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Old 12-19-2016, 04:10 PM   #63
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Sitting in a 12' tripod at my feeder pen. Will be hard to shoot one in the pen but I've trimmed a hole I can shoot to the NW and I have some corn at 12 yards.

Had a pig grunting west of me. They seldom Com by this set up because I have a pen.

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Old 12-19-2016, 04:13 PM   #64
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Good luck, Gary!

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Old 12-19-2016, 04:38 PM   #65
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Good luck ! Looking forward to some Ldp's !
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:58 PM   #66
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Wind got squirrelly and the deer spooked out. Many times they'll come back but they haven't this time. May be a fruitless endeavor.

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Old 12-19-2016, 05:01 PM   #67
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:28 PM   #68
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Ended up with 7 bucks in and out ranging from a 4yo 9pt to a spike. Wanted to shoot a basket rack 8 but so still and quiet with so many eyes I couldn't draw.

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Old 12-20-2016, 03:48 PM   #69
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A friend on the lease has this pop up set up for his son. He was kind enough to allow me to sit here. It's quite a bit taller than the pop up I have and I have plenty of clearance. Feeder is at 18 yards but I have corn spread from 10 to 15 yards. Wind is right and I hope it stays that way. He said the pigs like this set up. I'm willing to find out.
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Awesome. Good luck!!
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:54 PM   #71
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I'll need it. Thanx!

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Old 12-20-2016, 04:51 PM   #72
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Maybe I just don't have what it takes. Shot over a doe at 12 yards. I can make that shot all day any day on the target. Got one 50 yards out contemplating coming back in. Idkwthiwwm.

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Old 12-20-2016, 07:16 PM   #73
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Ha! I have been at this for 20yrs and I missed three does in one morning last year! The fourth one was not so lucky though!!! The first one is definitely the hardest. After you start whacking a few it gets easier to hold your composure...........most of the time!

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Well plenty of action this morning. A really nice 3yo 8 came in early with a spike i thought was a good doe. I had to wait for good shooting light and when I was comfortable with it and the two separated I got ready to draw on the "doe". At that point it raised it's head and looked at me and I could see two tiny 3 inch spikes. So they got a pass. After a while a young doe came in but never squared up before another one snorted north of me and they all left. Then a doe with a button buck came in and stood side by side, broad side, eating the hand corn. Then the wind died. They finally separated and she got in position but heard or sensed me drawing. Looked square at me and I was half drawn. Finally had to ease off and she got uncomfortable and left. I am snake bit with this quest.

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But I'll be back in the blind this evening.

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Keep at it. It definitely can be very frustrating and humbling. It is easy to take for granted that a deer that is closer should be easier to kill. The reality is that there is no such thing as a chip shot.

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Old 12-21-2016, 09:37 AM   #77
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Especially with multiples. Always one behind another. And shot angle is more critical.

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Old 12-21-2016, 09:50 AM   #78
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Aim low...A lot of time, they duck at the shot.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:57 AM   #79
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Mitch the windows weren't my issue. My short little ***** trying to shoot a 62" bow at an animal at 7 yards away. When I shot out to 12 yards I was fine. It was a matter of my lack of experience with shooting a recurve from an elevated blind. Or any blind for that matter.

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That is exactly why I went to a 58in recurve shure helps in a GB or even in a ladder stand
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Mitch the windows weren't my issue. My short little ***** trying to shoot a 62" bow at an animal at 7 yards away. When I shot out to 12 yards I was fine. It was a matter of my lack of experience with shooting a recurve from an elevated blind. Or any blind for that matter.

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That is exactly why I went to a 58in Recurve. sure helps in a GB or even in a ladder stand. hope your luck gets better!
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:25 AM   #81
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Back in the pop up. Last hunt this week. Beautiful 3yo ten point here with some young does.Name:  20161222_072403.jpg
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:31 AM   #82
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I plan to end up with a 56 to 58" bow. But right now I'm shooting what I could afford and I seem to shoot it reasonably well so far. I plan to keep shooting daily until my strength, form and muscle memory are such that I can move up inn weight and get the bow I want to hunt with. I'm just grateful that Buff, and this group, have inspired me to get moving as well as the help and encouragement to stay with it.

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Old 12-22-2016, 07:39 AM   #83
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I plan to end up with a 56 to 58" bow. But right now I'm shooting what I could afford and I seem to shoot it reasonably well so far. I plan to keep shooting daily until my strength, form and muscle memory are such that I can move up inn weight and get the bow I want to hunt with. I'm just grateful that Buff, and this group, have inspired me to get moving as well as the help and encouragement to stay with it.

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I picked up a 58" 1965 Bear Grizzly, just happen to be partial to the year. I will admit that I was pleasantly surprised to see how well the bow shoots, at a very modest price.
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:45 AM   #84
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I own very few rifles. I have to shoot them well and enjoy shooting them. That being said I've sold two that I shot well but didn't like one for the recoil and the other for the weight. Got one now I'm tempted to sell because it's heavy. So I imagine I will own multiple bows but I will have to like them well or they won't get used and I will sell them.

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Old 12-22-2016, 07:48 AM   #85
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That Bear I have will probably go. Just can't get comfortable shooting it. I will try for a while but I don't see it being a bow in my arsenal.

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That one doe in the picture looked like she could be about to pull around broadside. Is there a reason you weren't looking to kill one of them?
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But no doe. Over four how's of grid search. Pretty bummed.

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But no doe. Over four how's of grid search. Pretty bummed.

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Good Lord that arrow is covered! Liver?

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Old 12-22-2016, 05:37 PM   #89
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Was a little high but I didn't think that far back. Sat I'm blind for two hours after shot. No gut smell so I think solid liver. Blood on track was dark as well. Nothing after 75 yards.

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Man that arrow arrow is soaked!! Hate that you weren't able to find her.
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Old 12-22-2016, 05:55 PM   #91
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I'm gonna take Marty's advice and learn on pigs. Here in the next few weeks they should start hitting our feeders hard.

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Well dang Gary, that stinks. Sorry brother.


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Sorry about that Gary! I was pulling for you!

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I appreciate it. I know she's dead. I just lacked a good enough blood trail to locate her. I checked every oakmont and cedar tree in a 400 yard radius. I've never had a liver shot animal go that far. Normally they lay down within a hundred yards. I gotta figure out why on an animal I'm hitting left. Am I over drawing in the moment? Or am I not as adequate a shot out to 15 yards as I want to think. I'm not done. We have so many doe it's not hurting the herd. But I need to get a tag on one for the freezer. I gave the first two I killed away. I have a buck and die tag left. I'm going to get them done after Christmas then hammer the pigs the next six weeks until I get it right. Not left. Where I've hit twice now.

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Not sure what is happening with you, as it could be many different things, but shooting targets and shooting live critters are two completely different things. The first ones are the hardest as you are anxious to "get it done". It does get "easier" as you get more under your belt. By easier, I mean that the ability to control yourself and stay with your shot comes more naturally and you tend not to think about the shot, you just do it. Most of it, I believe, is a confidence thing. Once you start killing and recovering them, your confidence begins to soar, which makes all aspects better. Confidence is a big key to making all this work.

Stick with it, and good luck next time out.

Edit: Just a thought, but if you are right handed, you may be pulling your bow arm on release, trying to see where the arrow is going????? Keep your form, and don't let your bow arm move until the arrow is in the target (it does not matter what the target is - static or live).

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Thanx. Merry Christmas everyone.

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Are you practicing while sitting? I tend to shoot higher while sitting, so maybe that is playing into it a little bit. It can also be a little harder to draw the full DL when sitting. Chair orientation plays a role that you usually do subconsciously when standing. Switching to a more open stance helped me transition from standing up to sitting as I tend to sit more open.

Just something to consider. May be way off base.

15 yards is my limit on distance not just because of accuracy, but deer reaction. 10 is what I setup for. Also, for me at least, 15 gets to the point where no matter what, I see the deer and can't pick out a hair as easily. Inside that, I can focus on a spot easier.

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Are you practicing while sitting? I tend to shoot higher while sitting, so maybe that is playing into it a little bit. It can also be a little harder to draw the full DL when sitting. Chair orientation plays a role that you usually do subconsciously when standing. Switching to a more open stance helped me transition from standing up to sitting as I tend to sit more open.

Just something to consider. May be way off base.

15 yards is my limit on distance not just because of accuracy, but deer reaction. 10 is what I setup for. Also, for me at least, 15 gets to the point where no matter what, I see the deer and can't pick out a hair as easily. Inside that, I can focus on a spot easier.

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It's funny how it works. On a 3D deer I can pick an arrow hole, concentrate on it, and (usually) shoot pretty good. A live deer at 20yds looks like it is a mile away to me! I have shot just a few that for out in all the time I have been hunting trad. Everything has to feel just right for me to take a shot at a deer sized critter much past 15yds.

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Most of my practice is sitting. I even spent time the last few days at the lease shooting from the top of an 8' step ladder. I even took three sitting shots with the spot light on the target before I went. Two shots the arrows were touching half inch off the dot and the other was about 2 inches high. I will continue working. I shoot pretty much daily and often twice a day. I'm just not used to not being . . . not in control of the outcome. When I release the string with my compound I expect to hit where I aimed. And it seems I can do that fairly well on the target with the recurve. However on every draw on an animal I'm questioning myself. That is not good. I've drawn and let down passing several shots because the hold didn't feel right. I will get it right. I just don't want to do it at the deer's expense. I'm going to get me a 3D pig and deer and see if the practice on them help.

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However on every draw on an animal I'm questioning myself. I've drawn and let down passing several shots because the hold didn't feel right.
The first sentence is a very bad thing! You must be thinking that you are going to make the perfect shot. Sometimes all of us don't execute that shot, but when the shot happens, you have to "know" in your mind that you are going to make the perfect shot!

The second sentence is a very good thing! I have passed shots at 10yds because something did not feel right, and I have taken, and made a few out of my normal comfort zone because everything felt perfect. Not forcing shots is a really good thing to be able to do.

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