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Old 04-30-2010, 09:47 PM   #101
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Artos, who makes the forend on the AR you posted the pic of?
I got the same on mine, but I have the Specter length.

YHM Light Weight

Just got a bag of goodies from BCM.

2 Brownell 30 rnd Mags
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Viking Tactics light holdin hootus. (mounted my Marauder on it)
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:58 PM   #102
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Anybody got any spare XTM panels?

I need 2 FDE, 1 UDE and 1 FOL.

Or....1 FDE, 1 UDE and 2 FOL.
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Aren't all Rifle Lengths heavy?
some more than others...

I prefer the look of the forearm flush or even having the can countersunk inside. I made a good buy on the phantom but that booger is heavy as well.
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Old 05-01-2010, 05:26 PM   #105
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Old 05-01-2010, 07:45 PM   #106
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some more than others...

I prefer the look of the forearm flush or even having the can countersunk inside. I made a good buy on the phantom but that booger is heavy as well.
I really looked hard at the phantom cans, they are heavy in comparison to my M41000 and the SD. Their price is nice though!


Now I'm in to deep to switch all my QD mounts.

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on a 300SD for my next bolt build, though, if the price is close I may just go with AAC's Lapua can and be done.





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Old 05-01-2010, 07:49 PM   #107
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I really looked hard at the phantom cans, they are heavy in comparison to my M41000 and the SD. Their price is nice though!


Now I'm in to deep to switch all my QD mounts.

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on a 300SD for my next bolt build, though, if the price is close I may just go with AAC's Lapua can and be done.





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Sweet SOCOM!
Let the 300SD sit on the shelf for 6 months before you purchase it. They will lower that price (if they ever release the can) due to the Gemtech Sandstorm being similar and cheaper.

I purchased the Ti-Rant 9mm shortly after they released it (serial number 13) and they dropped the price significantly after the Osprey 9mm came out and started competing with it.
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i originally planned to get the m41k but got the yhm at cost...it was a no brainer. I'll get a top shelf on the next round when the wallet is in better shape.
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:25 PM   #109
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Let the 300SD sit on the shelf for 6 months before you purchase it. They will lower that price (if they ever release the can) due to the Gemtech Sandstorm being similar and cheaper.

I purchased the Ti-Rant 9mm shortly after they released it (serial number 13) and they dropped the price significantly after the Osprey 9mm came out and started competing with it.
Why is AAC so notorious for failing to get their cans to market? I.E. Black Box

It will be next year before I order that can, thanks for the tip. Is the Sandstorm rated for 300 Win? It's a thread on can correct? I hate thread on cans!

If I would do it all over again I would have gone without the 223 cans and went with 762 cans.
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They claim they have to fill military contract before civilian ones. For the 300SD, they are competing for a military contract.

Not sure about the sandstorm and 300 win, but it is a fast attach suppressor.

I really like my M42000 and have a SPR/M4 on the way, along with two Scar-H SD suppressors and a 762 SD.
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:56 PM   #111
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Not sure how tacticool but this is what I carry.
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:00 AM   #112
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Not sure how tacticool but this is what I carry.
That's a working mans gun! Thank's bud, we appreciate what your doing!
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:16 AM   #113
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That sir is a weapon!

Thanks for keeping us safe!
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:35 AM   #114
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They claim they have to fill military contract before civilian ones. For the 300SD, they are competing for a military contract.

Not sure about the sandstorm and 300 win, but it is a fast attach suppressor.

I really like my M42000 and have a SPR/M4 on the way, along with two Scar-H SD suppressors and a 762 SD.
I wonder what contract? The US doesn't utilize a 300 win in their arsenal anywhere? Maybe a foreign contract? Doesn't make sense that they would be upgrading the standard 762 can.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:17 AM   #115
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travis
i read an article yesterday stating the military was rebarreling their M24's to 300 win. mag. Odds are, they already have some 300's in their hands...

this isnt the article I read but it has the same info. click

even wiki talks about it MK 248 MOD 1 .300 Winchester Magnum

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Old 05-02-2010, 07:32 AM   #116
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travis
i read an article yesterday stating the military was rebarreling their M24's to 300 win. mag. Odds are, they already have some 300's in their hands...

this isnt the article I read but it has the same info. click

even wiki talks about it MK 248 MOD 1 .300 Winchester Magnum
yeah, thats what I heard.
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someone walk me through the pros and cons of the various sling options. I am having trouble deciding between a set up like Dave's and a single point harness system.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:40 AM   #118
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hmmm, a suppressor would be nice. I have been thinking about getting one for my AR when I get back.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:46 AM   #119
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My opinion is that unless you are doing dedicated CQB the single point sling really limits you. You can't move around much at all with out keeping both hands on the weapon. With a two point you can let go and do whatever you need with your hand then pick the weapon back up quickly. I'm not a fan of three point slings at all.

They have started the field the 300 Win Mag's. I have seen one here in country at least. It will take them a while to get them down to all the line units though.
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pic doesn't show it but I recently added a pri sling attachment to the handguard and can go from single to 2 point in a few seconds.

the magpul Ms2 /MS3 with their asap plate is pretty slick.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:37 AM   #121
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I replaced the top AR with a Colt model 6920 That I have topped with another ACOG TAO1NSN. The bolt gun is a Kyle Armament built 300 Whisper with a SCAR H SD can. The pistol is a Ruger MK2 with a Tactical Solutions upper and a Pilot can.
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:34 AM   #122
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Joey what project are you working on?
My Stag. Im just gona make another order to LaRue.
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:30 PM   #123
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Epic post right there.

Very interesting posts guys with lots of information to absorb. I don't own a tac rifle but have wanted one for some time. This makes it worse.
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:35 PM   #124
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travis
i read an article yesterday stating the military was rebarreling their M24's to 300 win. mag. Odds are, they already have some 300's in their hands...

this isnt the article I read but it has the same info. click

even wiki talks about it MK 248 MOD 1 .300 Winchester Magnum
Hmm, I wonder why the military would do that? If I was going to rebarrel why not just buy Lapua's. The 300 isnt that great compared to the LAP and isnt that much difference over the 308, plus they will have to carry another ammo. Of course I want one for a M24 build to hunt with merely because I love the round. But, that's the South Texas boy in me. 300 Win is what you hunt with down here!
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When we first got the M-24's around 88-89....they were already discussing goin to the 300.
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Stag Model 2
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The Stealth and I went on a range trip today and decided to shoot some 100 yard groups.

18" Larue Stealth 13.2" handguard
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I am having a problem with the first shot in a fresh mag being a flier, anyone have any suggestions on how to cure that? Im wondering if the Enidine buffer has anything to do with it.
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I am having a problem with the first shot in a fresh mag being a flier, anyone have any suggestions on how to cure that? Im wondering if the Enidine buffer has anything to do with it.


regardless...i wouldn't want my thumbnail stick'n out there.

does the 1st flyer happen regadless of mag count...max capacity vs. just five rounds for range work??
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regardless...i wouldn't want my thumbnail stick'n out there.

does the 1st flyer happen regadless of mag count...max capacity vs. just five rounds for range work??
Once I figured out that my first round was a flier, I loaded the mag with six rounds, shot the first round at a separate box, and then shot my 5 shot group. It has to do with the way the first round is loaded manually v/s the way it is loaded while shooting. Im just not sure how to fix it.
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You cant load the mag on an open bolt and then release the bolt?
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You cant load the mag on an open bolt and then release the bolt?
Thats what I do one the first shot in a new mag - that was the flier.
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Once I figured out that my first round was a flier, I loaded the mag with six rounds, shot the first round at a separate box, and then shot my 5 shot group. It has to do with the way the first round is loaded manually v/s the way it is loaded while shooting. Im just not sure how to fix it.


was the flyer consistant?? bullet deformation maybe?? I guess it happens regardless of mag release button / using CH??
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By the way, print your own targets here:

This is the target I was using:
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was the flyer consistant?? bullet deformation maybe?? I guess it happens regardless of mag release button / using CH??
No, it was not consistent.
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Stag Model 2
YHM Specter Length Light Weight rail
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Midwest BUIS
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Magpul XTM Panels
TAB Gear 2 pt sling
BCM extractor spring upgrade
Hawglight Marauder with Viking Tactics Mount


On its way....
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Joey,

If'n your gonna be shooting high power glass on there, then I recommend you use a Magpul ACS stock instead of the MOE. You will have a hard time getting a good cheek weld with the MOE.
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If'n your gonna be shooting high power glass on there, then I recommend you use a Magpul ACS stock instead of the MOE. You will have a hard time getting a good cheek weld with the MOE.

or better yet, try anything by Vltor
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I was wonderin about that.

Thanks!
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I've been working on a 6.5 Grendel rifle. Its comparable to a .25-06. It has plenty of speed and a good punch when it hits. recoil is fairly light. looking forward to hunting some hogs with it, maybe will use it for deer in late rifle season.
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I replaced the top AR with a Colt model 6920 That I have topped with another ACOG TAO1NSN. The bolt gun is a Kyle Armament built 300 Whisper with a SCAR H SD can. The pistol is a Ruger MK2 with a Tactical Solutions upper and a Pilot can.
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Great looking build Joey!

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[COLOBR=wheat]Stag Model 2[/color]
YHM Specter Length Light Weight rail
YHM 5C2 Flash Suppressor
Midwest BUIS
Brownell Mags
Magpul XTM Panels
TAB Gear 2 pt sling
BCM extractor spring upgrade
Hawglight Marauder with Viking Tactics Mount


On its way....
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pic doesn't show it but I recently added a pri sling attachment to the handguard and can go from single to 2 point in a few seconds.

the magpul Ms2 /MS3 with their asap plate is pretty slick.
I almost wish I hadn't spent the money on the MAGPUL. It's a good sling but I never use it in the one point sling option. Like I said, the only what I think that I would do that would be if I was doing dedicated CQB.
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or better yet, try anything by Vltor
Meh, I have a VLTOR Emod and it's a comfortable stock, but not as solid as a Magpul ACS.
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Meh, I have a VLTOR Emod and it's a comfortable stock, but not as solid as a Magpul ACS.

I don't see what everyone loves about those stocks, I guess polymer instead of the more plastic feel is the difference for me.


Back to the M24's, I guess that is why Leupold is so backed up on order's, my sales rep told me they are filling alot of military remmy base order's and Mark 4 order's, I'm still waiting on my Mark AR and just ordered a Larue base for my M40 build.
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and yes I do own an AR and an AK, but more than one MN!

AR15: You can pick off prairie dogs at 300 meters all day long
AK47: You can pick off a deer pretty easy at 300 meters
Mosin-Nagant: You get out of your truck, see an elk on top of a hill, and realize you really can use iron sights that far.

AR15: You measure your misses by sub MOA measurements
AK47: You miss and, and aim a bit lower this time.
Mosin-Nagant: Even if you miss the shockwave of the bullet will kill the animal.

AR15: You are careful to keep in clean in the field.
AK47: You don't worry so much about some dirt getting in it.
Mosin-Nagant: It still has gritty grease inside it from when the Finnish army put it into storage.

AR15: Your bayonet will do an alright job of butchering your kill if needed.
AK47: The bayonet doubles as a decent hunting knife.
Mosin-Nagant: Your bayonet can be used to spit roast an entire pig.

AR15: Nice and light for carrying over obstructions.
AK47: Handy package for carrying over obstructions.
Mosin-Nagant: You can pole vault over obstructions.

AR15: Can't run dry or you get seizure.
AK47: Can run dry, but may cause laquered ammo to stick in chamber.
Mosin-Nagant: Just handling the bolt gives it enough oil to operate smoothly.

What your wife does after she finds out you spent the tax refund / stimulus payment on a -
AR15: She yells at you for spending the whole thing on a plastic varmint rifle.
AK47: She is disappointed at what an ugly rifle you spent half of it on.
Mosin-Nagant: She doesnít even notice the Mosin-Nagant because of the diamond ring you got her with all the left over cash.

AR15: Melts IN the fire
AK47: Starts ON fire
Mosin-Nagant: Starts THE fire

AR15: With a custom barrel, Varmint Scope, and gunsmith trigger job, you can vaporize prairie dogs at 600 yards.
AK47: With a good rain, you can wait hidden in the mud at the side of a watering hole and wait for the game to come to you for a shot within 10 yards.
Mosin-Nagant: With a solid shooting position, you can hit that deer on the other side of the valley... and recover the bullet in the tree it was standing in front of.

AR15: You can buy 100 round magazines that require dry-carbon lubricant.
AK47: You can do push-ups on your 30 round steel mag (Saw this in a SPETSNATZ documentary).
Mosin-Nagant: You can use the buttstock to pound in a tent stake and if you don't have tent stakes, the bayonet will work as one.

AR-15: Carried by elite special forces and highly-trained American soldiers
AK-47: Carried by illiterate peons and unwilling conscripts.
Mosin-Nagant-Nagant: Carried by Vassily Zaitsev.

AR15: Might just stop that charging terrorist with a three round burst
AK47: Would stop the terrorist in his tracks
Mosin-Nagant: Would stop the charging terrorist, his three buddies, and blow up the IED in the next block from the shockwave of the bullet...

AR15: Shoots a .22.
AK47: Shoots a carbine round.
Mosin-Nagant: Shoots a cannonball.

AR15: Shot by the free world
AK47: Shot at the free world
Mosin-Nagant: Almost free to shoot

AR15: Shoot it in the air it goes a mile
AK47: Shoot it in the air it goes 1/2 a mile
Mosin-Nagant: Shoot it in the air and someone in Berlin gets hit by a bullet.

AR15: Made out of used cars and recycled milk jugs
AK47: Made out of oil rigs and packing crates
Mosin-Nagant: Made out of old water pipe and goat carts

Ar15: Pray (it works) and spray
AK47: Spray and pray(you hit something)
Mosin-Nagant: The hammer of God

AR15: Makes grown men laugh.
AK47: Makes grown men cry.
Mosin-Nagant: Makes grown men incontinent.

AR15: Finicky when dirty.
AK47: Still works when dirty.
Mosin-Nagant: Arrives Dirty from the Distributor.

AR15: Donít run over it...it will Break
AK47: Run over it, it still shoots.
Mosin-Nagant: Run over it and it will flatten your Tires!

AR15: Makes a Pop when fired
AK47: Makes a Boom when fired
Mosin-Nagant: What the hell was that ???

AR15: Ok, I got One!
AK47: Ok, I have 3 different ones.
Mosin-Nagant: Ok, I have Mosin-itis and have 14 and looking for More....

AR15: Makes a small hole in a tree
AK47: Makes a medium sized hole in a tree
Mosin-Nagant: Blows tree in half making firewood available.

AR15: Kills rabbits and coyotes
AK47: Kills pigs and small deer
Mosin-Nagant: If you canít kill it with a Mosin-Nagant, it canít be killed

AR15: Safe to stow in poly bags
AK47: Safe to stow in a rice paddy
Mosin-Nagant: Safe to stow in a landfill

AR15: 100 round beta c drum mags you can load with a speed loader
AK47: 75 round drum magazine you have to reload individually by pressing a lever
Mosin-Nagant: You can store 20 of them in a drum with about 1000 rounds on stripper clips

AR15: Makes a nice paperweight
AK47: Makes a nice doorstop
Mosin-Nagant: Makes a nice baseball bat and way cheaper then aluminum

AR15: Loyal following of people that have more money than sense.
AK47: Loyal following of people that have a longer police record than the range of the rifle.
Mosin-Nagant: Loyal following of people that have more rounds of ammo than they got hairs on all family members' heads combined.

AR-15: Your enemies will giggle
AK-47: Your enemies will take cover and swear as they ready their weapons
Mosin-Nagant: Your enemies will flatten themselves to the ground and offer up prayers of salvation to whatever god they believe in...then they will die.

AR-15: Drop it from ten feet and it shatters.
AK-47: Drop it from ten feet and it still works.
Mosin-Nagant: Drop it from ten feet and it's more lethal than a lawn dart.

AR-15: When you run out of ammo, duck for cover and spend 15 minutes cleaning and reloading
AK-47: You could probably rig it up to fire chain-linked ammo
Mosin-Nagant: When you run out of ammo (never) you can shoot chaff and langrage from it (wikipedia that)

AR-15: My daddy bought me this weapon for my birthday
AK-47: I saved two weeks' paychecks to buy this.
Mosin-Nagant: I think it was free...

AR-15: My rifle floated away in the flood
AK-47: My rifle was submerged for three weeks by the flood and still works
Mosin-Nagant: I fired my rifle and the flood waters parted...

AR15: You keep your bayonet in the kitchen because it is a good steak knife
AK47: You keep your bayonet in your toolbox because it is a good wire cutter
Mosin-Nagant: You no longer fix your bayonet in the house because the last time you did you poked a hole in the ceiling when you stood up


AR15: For $1000 you can get one
AK47: For $1000 you can get two and 300 rounds of ammo
Mosin-Nagant: For $1000 you can get 16 of them plus a Bulgarian armory's worth of surplus ammo

AR15: Can start brush fires with incendiary ammunition.
AK47: Can start brush fires by dropping it after the handguard catches fire.
Mosin-Nagant: Can start brush fires by firing from anything lower than a kneeling position.

AR15: Built with custom parts, nice trigger, all the bells and whistles $1500+
AK47: Modified with aftermarket and 1,000 rounds of ammo not even $1500
Mosin-Nagant: Stock, with 1,000 rounds maybe $300, meaning you get $1200 to spend on more beer

AR15: Takes a few men out in a sweeper movement
AK47: Takes most men out in a sweeper movement
Mosin-Nagant: Shoot one the sonic boom will handle the rest

AR15: Takes 3 rounds to take out your enemy
AK47: takes 30 rounds sprayed and hopefully you hit your target
Mosin-Nagant: 1 shot, 50 kills

AR15: More options than a custom Rolls-Royce. No two guns are alike.
AK47: Same number of options as a Toyota Corolla. Most guns look alike.
Mosin-Nagant: Options: You want a bayonet with that?

The limits of customizing a-
AR15: How much $ you got.
AK47: What you can find in the Tapco catalog.
Mosin-Nagant: How much duct tape Bubba's got.

AR15: Bullet starts tumbling the moment it meets sufficient resistance, like paper
AK47: Bullet will continue trajectory until it hits something solid, like a deer
Mosin-Nagant: It keeps going and going and going....

AR15: Used by special forces to kill terrorists
AK47: Used by revolutionaries and any two bit nation's illiterate conscripts to kill each other
Mosin-Nagant: Used by Simo Hšyhš to kill Russian conscripts

AR15: Requires over 1000 rounds to break in
AK47: May need some breaking in
Mosin-Nagant: The stripper clips require more breaking in


AR15: Invented 50 years ago by a consummate engineer
AK47: Invented 60 years ago by wounded tank sergeant
Mosin-Nagant: Invented 117 years ago by two drunks on a budget.

AR15: Makes small holes
AK47: Makes big holes
Mosin-Nagant: Makes black holes

AR15: Nice lightweight ammo can be carried in quantity.
AK47: You can carry a chest pouch with lots of mags with no problem.
Mosin-Nagant: Ammo is also used in tanks, and larger artillery pieces.

Domestic uses of the bayonet:
AR15: You affix it to your rifle and use it as a dibble to plant tulip bulbs in the garden.
AK47: You affix it to your rifle and use it to trim low-hanging tree branches.
Mosin-Nagant: You affix it to your rifle, accidentally stab it into the ceiling and bring down a square foot of plaster, and spend the next week sleeping on the couch because your wife is ****** off at you.

AR15: Comes in Pink Hello Kitty and Barbie
AK47: Comes in Pink Hello Kitty
Mosin-Nagant: Whatís pink?

AR15: Iran-Contra was a cover-up
AK47: Afghanistan (1980) was a cover-up
Mosin-Nagant: Chernobyll was a cover-up

AR15: Clean with fancy lubes and solvents with special tools.
AK47: Clean? In Soviet Russia AK clean you!
Mosin-Nagant: Squirt some Windex down the bore. Ready for another 500 rounds tomorrow!

AR15: Can shoot a squirrel and have a great meal
AK47: Can shoot a squirrel and have some meat left to eat.
Mosin-Nagant: There is a tail left around here somewhere.

AR15: Puts some countries air force to shame
AK47: Used by countries who canít afford an air force
Mosin-Nagant: Could be used to take down an air force

AR15: Shoot one and you'll be owning one soon!
AK47: Shoot one and you will buy some high capacity magazines and 1000 rounds of ammo
Mosin-Nagant: Shoot one and you will own 15 and want another!

AR15: Goes pew pew pew
AK47: Goes pow pow pow
Mosin-Nagant: Goes BOOOOOOOM!

AR15: Made by a stoned Eugene
AK47: Made by an injured Kalashnikov
Mosin-Nagant: Made by a drunken Belgian and a crazy Ivan

AR15: Makes a tiny hole with no fragmentation or undue extra injury, in accordance with the Geneva Convention
AK47: Makes a big hole and sometimes flings severed body parts around, not in accordance with the Geneva Convention
Mosin-Nagant: One of the reasons the Geneva Convention was written

AR15: Can shoot it off your head and it won't kill you
AK47: Shoot it off your head and you die
Mosin-Nagant: Shoot if from your shoulder and you need it popped back into place

AR15: Used to kill Enemies of the State.
AK47: Used by Enemies of the State.
Mosin-Nagant: Enemy at the Gates.

AR15: Good for shooting poodles.
AK47: Good for shooting enemies of the state
Mosin-Nagant: Good for shooting light armored vehicles

AR15: Built like a Toy.
AK47: Built like a Sewing Machine.
Mosin-Nagant: Built like a Tank!

AR15: If it gets in the Mekong river, you need to clean it before firing.
AK47: If it gets in the Mekong river, shake the water out before firing.
Mosin-Nagant: Used as an oar to paddle up and down the Mekong river

AR15: Used to attack soldiers building a bridge across the Mekong
AK47: Used to protect soldiers building a bridge across the Mekong
Mosin-Nagant: Used to actually build the bridge across the Mekong.

AR15: Plastics make it possible
AK47: Sheet metal make it possible
Mosin-Nagant: Driftwood make it possible

AR15: Nice useful little round.
AK47: Very functional round.
Mosin-Nagant: Anti Tank Round

AR15: Useful against unarmored foe
AK47: Useful against armored foe
Mosin-Nagant: Useful against foe on the other side of the battlefield!

AR15: Useful for hosing down forward edge of the battle area...
AK47: Useful for hosing down sky over forward edge of the battle area...
Mosin-Nagant: Useful for hosing down rear of the battle area, enemy reserves and basic training camps at home...

AR15: Thousands of moving parts, held together by hundreds of bolts, screws, and precision welds.
AK47: Several dozen moving parts, held together by a few screws and some drunken Ivan's light-sabering with an acetylene torch.
Mosin-Nagant: TWO MOVING PARTS. TWO SCREWS. .

AR15: One tenth the firepower at 10 times the price
AK47: Half the Firepower at twice the price
Mosin-Nagant: 10 times the firepower at one tenth the price

AR15: Turns little rocks into pebbles
AK47: Turns big rocks into little rocks
Mosin-Nagant: Makes molehills out of mountains

AR15: One inch groups at 100 yards.
AK47: Five to six inch groups at 100 yards.
Mosin-Nagant: Muzzle is one inch from target at 100 yards.

AR15: Designs drawn on blueprint paper by stoner and a team of experts in a R&D facility
AK47: Designs drawn on notebook paper by Kalashnikov in a Soviet hospital
Mosin-Nagant: Designs drawn on cocktail napkins by a drunken Sergei Mosin-Nagant in a bar

AR15: Clean with a bunch of cloths, patches, picks, brushes and don't loose the small parts. Clean every 100 rounds.
AK47: Run a patch down the barrel, wipe out the chamber every few months.
Mosin-Nagant: Throw it in the dishwasher every couple years.

AR15: Can be used to defend home against crooks
AK47: Can be used to defend Oil Tanker against Pirates
Mosin-Nagant: Can Replace one of the Deck Guns on the Kirov Class Battle cruiser

AR-15: Defenders
AK-47: Invaders
Mosin-Nagant: Victors

AR15: High cost, high maintenance.
AK47: Low cost, low maintenance.
Mosin-Nagant: What are these cost and maintenance things you speak of?

AR15: Arm of the free world
AK47: Arm of everybody else
Mosin-Nagant: Arm of Chuck Norris

As for accurizing.
AR15: You buy match grade components installed by professional gunsmith and spend thousands of dollars.
AK47: You buy GOOD ammo and optics and spend hundreds of dollars.
Mosin-Nagant: You use an empty soda can, some sand paper and spend seven bucks!

AR15: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
AK47: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it.
Mosin-Nagant: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.

AR15: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great whiffle bat.
AK47: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
Mosin-Nagant: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.

AR15: What's recoil?
AK47: Recoil is manageable, even fun.
Mosin-Nagant: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.

AR15: Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
AK47: Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
Mosin-Nagant: Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.

AR15: After a day at the range, you detail strip your rifle and thoroughly clean and lubricate it with only the best products.
AK47: After a day of shooting out back you run a quick patch through the bore and throw your rifle in the back of your truck.
Mosin-Nagant: Cleaning....and maintenance?

As for accessories.
AR15: You have a never ending list of high dollar tacticool accessories.
AK47: You have a never ending list of Chinese made tacticool accessories.
Mosin-Nagant: You have carry strap and ammo what more you need comrade?

AR15: Cost a lot of money
AK47: Cost some money
Mosin-Nagant: free with purchase of bayonet

AR15: Backordered.
AK47: Backordered.
Mosin-Nagant: Mail ordered.

AR15: When out of ammo you would rather die than risk damaging your $1200 rifle buy using it as a club.
AK47: When out of ammo your rifle makes a nice club.
Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle is a club that can shoot people.

AR15: When on patrol in Vietnam ammo is so light you can carry around 900 rounds of ammo with you.
AK47: When patrolling your warlord's territory, you carry all the ammo you need in the back of a technical.
Mosin-Nagant: When sent to battle at Stalingrad you are only issued a stripper clip of ammunition and told that you would find your rifle laying on the ground.

AR15: Got it by joining army
AK47: Got it with one paycheck
Mosin-Nagant: Got it by saving beer cans

Regarding muzzle blast:
AR15: Makes a popping sound that is hardly noticed at a public range.
AK47: Makes a hearty boom that usually gets noticed at a public range.
Mosin-Nagant: Makes the Earth tremble and two guys in Bavaria look at each other and ask "vat da hell vas dat?!"

AR15: Looks like a toy
AK47: Looks cobbled together from spare parts
Mosin-Nagant: Looks like a Kentucky Musket of DOOM!

AR15: Flash suppressed, super stealthy
AK47: Why worry about stealth when you and your comrades can pour a wall of lead onto the enemy?
Mosin-Nagant: Blinds anybody within 150 meters who's not wearing welding goggles.

AR15: Can use the bayonet to whittle
AK47: Can use the bayonet to kill an enemy or butcher food
Mosin-Nagant: Bayonet used to cut the sheet metal parts they use to make AR's and AK's

AR15: Rust is your mortal enemy, you clean your gun five times a day.
AK47: Rust might become a problem in a few years, you clean your gun once a month.
Mosin-Nagant: Rust makes your rifle look more authentic.

AR15: You clean your rifle with molecularly engineered precision $1000-ounce synthetic lubricant
AK47: WD-40 is acceptable
Mosin-Nagant: If everything else runs out you can clean your rifle with your own pee

AR15: Must be carefully cleaned every 100 rounds or so.
AK47: Only have to worry about cleaning if using Wolf ammo
Mosin-Nagant: Cleaning? Consists of getting liquored up on vodka and peeing down the barrel to get rid of corrosive salts from milsurp primers.

AR15: Opened by pushing 2 pins
AK47: Opened with a swift kick
Mosin-Nagant: Opened with a 2X4 and a ball peen hammer

AR15: Mostly made out of expensive polymers
AK47: Mostly made out of cheap stamped metal and particle board
Mosin-Nagant: Mostly made out of "whatever the **** the comrades could find lying around the People's Factory"

AR15: can probably put together a nice one, due to the popularity of ownership, for under $1,000
AK47: Can probably get a decent one, or refurbished one, for under $500.
Mosin-Nagant: Can probably buy rifle, 440 rounds of ammo, and a case of Windex for under $200.

AR15: Won't work unless you clean it every day
AK47: Should be cleaned at least once a year
Mosin-Nagant: Was last cleaned by a Russian conscript in Berlin in 1945

AR15: Your accessories cost more than the rifle
AK47: All your accessories cost around $300
Mosin-Nagant: All your accessories come free with the rifle

AR15: Accountant's Rifle
AK47: Factory Worker's Rifle
Mosin-Nagant: If you can fill out an application, you can probably already afford it

AR15: Made when jet passenger flight was fairly regular
AK47: Made when knowing how to fly could make you an officer
Mosin-Nagant: Made when hot air balloons were considered the ultimate flight technology
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Anything new in the tactical world weapon wise worth talking about from this years shot show?
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I watched a u tube interview with YHM on Todd Jarrett's new toy.

I thought it would be more spensive than it is....

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odd question for the experts...what sight would you put on an AR .22? Just got one to play with, and the possibilities are endless. keep in mind that this will be used ALOT by my 10 yr old. what would you gents put on your sons .22 ?
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odd question for the experts...what sight would you put on an AR .22? Just got one to play with, and the possibilities are endless. keep in mind that this will be used ALOT by my 10 yr old. what would you gents put on your sons .22 ?
I would put a red dot. Most shots will be 50 yards and in. If you want to spend 4-500 get an Eotech or Aimpoint, if you want to spend less get a Vortex Strikefire.



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what does that thing run?
A cat hair over $1800.
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Dave? Is that a 30 rd mag?
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