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Old 04-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #51
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Corbon started selling 300 whisper ammo, which is why Im even considering it. I order two AAC SCAR-H SD suppressors this week and think a 14.5" 300 whisper w/ pinned AAC MITER Mount and Scar-H would make one hell of a gun. I just need to find a good match barrel for the 300 Whisper and a low profile gas block that allows me to turn off the gas while suppressed and I will start this project.
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why does it void your warranty to shoot a whisper on the 762SD can? I figured if anyone knew it would be you.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:27 PM   #52
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Here's my new CCW.... it might fit in a holster with a 5 or 10 rnd mag...



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Here's my new CCW.... it might fit in a holster with a 5 or 10 rnd mag...



any specs on the build??
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SPECS for sure! what is that a 7" 9" ??
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Couple shots of my fun toys.


My first SBR.

Spikes Tactical 9mm Upper and Spikes Lower
MOE Handguard
DD Grip
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Magpul BUS
Vortex Strikefire
CProd Mags

Patiently waiting on my EVO 9mm! Grrr! Both were sent off the same day, my can went pending March 3rd! BOOOO!

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:54 PM   #56
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Dang that looks LOUD!
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:31 PM   #57
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What?......No 1911 fans?
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:54 AM   #58
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It's just an Armalite M15 M4 that I took the upper off of, and bought a stock
Rock River 7.5" upper.... it's for home defense and traveling

the uppers for sale in the classifieds... gonna build a long range varminter with
a magpul stock, and good trigger for that... this gun is just for burning ammo..
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oh yes, I love me some 1911's! When done up with gear of course.

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Here are a couple of my builds. Alot of these pics need to be updated as I've changed a few things on them.

Specs on Both
LMT 16" Upper, M16 Bolt Carriers, KAC Ras M4 Rails, Magpul BUS, Eotech 551, and Eotech XPS2-2 on the fde, I've moved the strikefire to my 9 SBR.

Spikes Tactical Lowers with USA Flag, T2 Buffers, Ergo Grip, Magpul CTR

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Last is my Larue, still waiting on my scope grrr! Has a Burris fastfire dual optics platform as well!

Upper is a Larue Stealth 18" with 13.2" FF rail, M16 Carrier, Larue 1.5 Scope mount, Magpul BUS

Lower is Spikes with a Geissele 2 stage trigger, magpul ACS stock, Ergo grip, KNS pins, custom Logo.

All of my guns have AAC m4-1000 mounts and a can to match!

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Old 04-29-2010, 08:50 AM   #60
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TBH bretheren...I'm having a hard time deciding on which to get...the Harris HBRM-S (6"-9") or the HBLM-S (9"-13") Bipod...I'm planning on doing a combo of bench shooting as well as would like to use my Grendel for pig hunting, etc...what say you???
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:10 PM   #61
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Personally I like the 6-9", I have both and my 9-13" never gets extended, I have not found alot of applications that you must have that extra four inches. Just my .02
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All of mine have 6-9" models. I had the 9-13" but it was too long on the bench.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:16 PM   #63
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Just what I needed to know...much appreciated gents! full of good info as always
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Anyone have an opinion/ experience with BCM's Lite line of uppers? More specifically, I'm wondering if there are any cons with the Lite uppers compared to their standard upper.
I wanted to go with the standard 16" with a 12" DD quad rail, but BCM is out of stock and I can't wait any longer!
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Anything BCM is GTG. They build their parts to Mil-Spec stats. Are their "Lite" rifles the ones with the Pencil Barrel w/ midlength gas system? Either way, they are GTG, might I recommend a 14.5" w/ a pinned vortex or other flash suppressor? Reduce a little weight and length, and still be accurate and effective at ranges the 16" is effective at.
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Someone splain to me about a barrel extension.

Isnt it a part of the barrel?

Can I get a stripped upper and slide a barrel into it or am I missin sumthin?


Can someone post a step by step of buildin an upper? With pixels?
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Question on the SBR, don't you need a stamp to get one and etc...? How does that work?

I hope this is within the purpose and intent of the thread. If not, just disregard.
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Question on the SBR, don't you need a stamp to get one and etc...? How does that work?

I hope this is within the purpose and intent of the thread. If not, just disregard.
I think anything tactical gun related is the spirit. SBR is similar to getting a suppressor, you decide trust or LEO signoff, complete a Form 1, send it in completed, wait for the gov to give you a clean bill of health and assemble it once you've received the stamped form 1 you don't even have to go through a Class 3 dealer. We can help.


Joey, I've never had the guts to put together an upper and properly headspace, if you are talking about M4 extensions, it is simply grooves in your upper assembly that help feed your tube more efficiently.
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So....if I got a Spikes/BCM upper with M4 feed ramps.....a Stag barrel would slide right in and be good to go? I guess thats my question.

I can handle the forward assist and the dust cover.
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Joey, I've never had the guts to put together an upper and properly headspace

I'm learning and hope to get more hands on with this...go and no go gauges are your friends. Switching out the bolt / carrier is about all the control I can wrap my head around to deal with headspace when putting together parts.

I recently had an issue with a custom build that had a les bear upper and Krieger tube. I could not pull the ch back when chambered and had to shoot out rounds that went into battery. I sent the upper to gunsmith and both reamers he had on hand would not allow the pilot to go into the bore?? I sent it to kreiger along with the les baer bolt and they confirmed the bore diameter was indeed under saami specs but not unusual for krieger & considered safe and normal for them... I was told the les bear bolt (chromed) would not pass with the gauges but a mil-spec bolt worked fine.

Krieger offered to ream out the tube for a fee but I decided to have them send it back and just use it for another build down the road & deal with the les baer bolt / carrier for another project as well.
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Too much though is put into headspace on an AR. At best, get a set of go/no-go gauges and it will be fine.
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I hope this is within the purpose and intent of the thread. If not, just disregard.
yes... you need a tax stamp... most counties, unless you know someone,
it's hard to get the Chief Law Enforcement Officer to sign off on the
Form....

Setting up a trust is not expensive, and easy... PM if you want any details..
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Are tacticool shotguns allowed Travis?

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Joey,

yes you are correct, AR's are built more as machined armorer equipment more than they are sculpted gunsmithed weapons. So yes mil spec standard parts are interchangeable, however IMO if you are going that route, pay an extra 30-75 bucks for a LMT, Colt, BCM barrel, well side bar I haven't looked in a long while but most of them are probably all made by the same or another shop. Personally I like LMT uppers, even, GASP, more than Larue's. I know I know. I'm weird, but I just really like the craft and attention to detail. This is just a petty thing but it does irk my nerves. The AAC flash hiders match up perfectly straight and in the perfect position, my Larue is off just about 3/16". I know it's picky but it is just sitting there slightly crooked, annoying.

Mike, Tacticool shotguns are awesome, however, you need to take that laser off that one! All you need is a flashlight! Is that your new Mossberg?? Very pretty! Just make sure you don't lay it next to one of those ugly Glocks!

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Yeah, I know on the laser. Just playing around with it more than anything. Yep that's the Mossy. And they will feel right at home next to the Glocks, you know with all that flimsy plastic on them and all.
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Mike,

Just funning you! Glocks are good weapons, I just don't care for them! They don't fit my bear paw of a hand very well. That's why I don't like shooting them all that much. Now if you suppress them... That is definitely the bees knees!

How does the mossy cycle in semi? I've wanted a semi tac shotgun but have never really cared for the cycle on them. I'm much more of a pump or over under shotgun guy.
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Is there much accuracy difference between 1:7 and 1:9? Two identical loads shot through two same length barrels, would there be a difference?
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Is there much accuracy difference between 1:7 and 1:9? Two identical loads shot through two same length barrels, would there be a difference?
1:7 can stabilize heavier bullets. I would go with a 1:7 or 1:8 twist rifle over a 1:9 twist rifle.
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M14/M1A:

Clunky, heavy, and overpowered. Essentially a Garand tarted up with a removable magazine, in a half-baked attempt to adapt a 19th century rifle design philosophy to the mid-20th century. Most often named as favorite infantry rifle by people who never had to hump a 10-pound wood-stocked rifle with lots of sharp protrusions and no collapsible anything on a three day exercise, or try to make it through a firefight with the standard battle load of five 20-round magazines.

"overpowered"? what is this word you speak of?
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oh cool thread btw
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"overpowered"? what is this word you speak of?
Exactly, they are actually pulling M1As out of retirement, "accurizing" them, and giving them to Squad Designated Marksman now. They are one hell of a rifle, especially the new ones.
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Mike,

Just funning you! Glocks are good weapons, I just don't care for them! They don't fit my bear paw of a hand very well. That's why I don't like shooting them all that much. Now if you suppress them... That is definitely the bees knees!

How does the mossy cycle in semi? I've wanted a semi tac shotgun but have never really cared for the cycle on them. I'm much more of a pump or over under shotgun guy.
I wish I could tell ya Travis, but sadly it is still a range virgin. I don't really have a place to go regularly to shoot outdoors and none of the local indoor ranges allow shottys.

I believe it is an inertia system much like the Benelli's though.
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The M1A:
The M1A is the ultimate SHTF rifle. We know this because M1A owners remind us of this constantly. Like the FAL, the M1A is capable of stopping a tree in its tracks. When the hordes of killer trees take the rest of us, FAL and M1A owners will likely be the only ones left to hash out who has the better rifle. Of course, we know the answer (because M1A owners remind us of it constantly). The M1A not only has superior penetration, it is extremely accurate at distance. Therefore, when the hordes of killer trees have all been mowed down, FAL owners will fall quickly to the hordes of paper silhouette targets come to avenge their woodland brethren. The M1A owners will stop the avenging targets with neat, 1 MOA groups center mass at 600 yards. At that point, the standard M1A owners will have to hash out which is the better gun with the SOCOM 16 owners to determine who will inherit the earth. A glaring design error in the M1A is that itís not black, which is why they invented the SOCOM.


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Let's expand upon this, which weapon system is better? The new highly accurized 308 AR style weapons like the OBR, LMT's, LWRC REPR, DPMS SASS, Armalite SASS or the M1A socom?




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The M1A is the ultimate SHTF rifle. We know this because M1A owners remind us of this constantly. Like the FAL, the M1A is capable of stopping a tree in its tracks. When the hordes of killer trees take the rest of us, FAL and M1A owners will likely be the only ones left to hash out who has the better rifle. Of course, we know the answer (because M1A owners remind us of it constantly). The M1A not only has superior penetration, it is extremely accurate at distance. Therefore, when the hordes of killer trees have all been mowed down, FAL owners will fall quickly to the hordes of paper silhouette targets come to avenge their woodland brethren. The M1A owners will stop the avenging targets with neat, 1 MOA groups center mass at 600 yards. At that point, the standard M1A owners will have to hash out which is the better gun with the SOCOM 16 owners to determine who will inherit the earth. A glaring design error in the M1A is that itís not black, which is why they invented the SOCOM.


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Let's expand upon this, which weapon system is better? The new highly accurized 308 AR style weapons like the OBR, LMT's, LWRC REPR, DPMS SASS, Armalite SASS or the M1A socom?
Same bullet and same function. A accurized M1A will shoot just as well as the OBR, etc and with the right housing can support the same accessories. In this case, I say its user preference.

This coming from someone who has a M1A in the safe and a OBR coming in any day now.
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Building a 10.5" full billet SBR 300 whisper on the spikes billet upper and lower with a custom barrel.

Building a 5" 3 lug 9mm SBR on Seekins Billet lower.

Building another 5" 3 lug 9mm SBR on the Spike billet upper and lower.

Have RDIAS' for all of them, waiting!

I think a 300 whisper full auto is going to be the bomb.
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where did you buy your RDIAS from?
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Let's expand upon this, which weapon system is better? The new highly accurized 308 AR style weapons like the OBR, LMT's, LWRC REPR, DPMS SASS, Armalite SASS or the M1A socom?
I would prefer the middle of the road 6.8 in a 11.5" - 12.5" on the M4/AR frame for a dedicated battle gun...my sbr is pretty heavy as is but I wouldn't want to shoot a bunch of 150+ pills in it.

You can shoot 85-95gr projectiles at .223+ velocities depending on weight while keeping the size / better mag count. ...not that I wouldn't want one of each that are listed



I too plan to build a dedicated suppressed upper. I'll probably end up with a whisper but am researching a 7.62x39 reamer that fixes the bullet size issue.
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Let's expand upon this, which weapon system is better? The new highly accurized 308 AR style weapons like the OBR, LMT's, LWRC REPR, DPMS SASS, Armalite SASS or the M1A socom?
I would have to say the KAC M110 is the better!! :-D LOL... Just kidding... Honestly, a trained and true man with an accurate rifle is the best weapon system.


I'd have to say though, the REPR is a fun toy to play with.... but the M1A has been the standard the Semiautos have been built to replicate. Hard to beat ol' Gunny and his M1A
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Let's expand upon this, which weapon system is better? The new highly accurized 308 AR style weapons like the OBR, LMT's, LWRC REPR, DPMS SASS, Armalite SASS or the M1A socom?
You would have to define the definition of better.

My DPMS 308 shoots pretty darn good and it's considered low end.

308 DPMS Load #3.pdf

If you throw out the single flyer, the avg 4 shot group is .213" @ 100 yards.
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FYI - Academy has Heritage 20 round AR mags on clearance for $9.99 ea.
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To expand my question, if SHTF and you had an AR or an M1A socom which would you grab?

AR benefits that stick out to me.
More easily suppressed generally come threaded
Regulated gas ports for suppression
unlimited configurations
Easier to fix
Most Sub MOA out of the box

M1A
Better cycle system
Just as good as a club when your ammo runs out
Proven battle hardened design
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Artos, who makes the forend on the AR you posted the pic of?
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:14 PM   #94
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To expand my question, if SHTF and you had an AR or an M1A socom which would you grab?

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More easily suppressed generally come threaded
Regulated gas ports for suppression
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M1A
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Just as good as a club when your ammo runs out
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At the end of the day, the best SHTF rifle is the one you are comfortable with and the one you practice with. Either will get the job done in the time frame that your average gunfight will last.
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Artos, who makes the forend on the AR you posted the pic of?
That looks like the YHM Customizable Free Float AR-15 Forearm System.
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That looks like the YHM Customizable Free Float AR-15 Forearm System.

YHM Smooth Rifle forearm...it's held up well but is heavier than I would like.

a troy extreme rifle length is what I should have gone with...
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At the end of the day, the best SHTF rifle is the one you are comfortable with and the one you practice with. Either will get the job done in the time frame that your average gunfight will last.
This! ^^^^^^^
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:38 PM   #98
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YHM Smooth Rifle forearm...it's held up well but is heavier than I would like.

a troy extreme rifle length is what I should have gone with...
Paul,

Aren't all Rifle Lengths heavy?
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I added a TruGlo red/green dot scope to mine. At 50 yards 4 quick shots made a quarter size group.
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For got to put the pic in the first post.
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