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Old 02-25-2017, 08:39 AM   #1
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So my hunting partner and I have a unique situation. We hunt for free in exchange for helping the landowner meet the wildlife tax exemption. In essence he saves on taxes the equivalent of what we would pay in lease fees. its a win win for both sides considering he is a little older, he saves money and helps us out, we have strong backs, willingness to work hard, and improve his fences, put in gates, clean the property, and keep a good eye on it (physical presence and cameras everywhere).

We mow several times a year and plant about 8 acres of winter/fall plots (oats, cow peas, wheat, turnips, clover, and i think I'm missing something..its justin seed co fall deer mix..

He called me yesterday and said "lets get the tractors out and plant spring plots." so of course I never tell him no and got myself in this project not knowing what will grow.

so enough with the story. I need help. we are located on the grayson/collin county line and have a great mix of dirt considering we are on a river bottom. I have a tractor with a mower and a disc but no seed drill. we usually use a hand spreader and then use a drag behind a four wheeler we built to get the seed int he dirt.

what will grow? I don't have irrigation. just really good dirt that I have never had tested before.

here is what I'm working with. keep in mind i plan to disc it all in the fall and plant my normal kill plots.


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Old 02-25-2017, 08:52 AM   #2
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Old 02-25-2017, 08:57 AM   #3
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Iron and Clay Cowpeas. Be sure and use a browse enclosure so you can move monitor the actual growth.
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Old 02-25-2017, 09:27 AM   #4
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Iron and Clay Cowpeas. Be sure and use a browse enclosure so you can move monitor the actual growth.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:50 PM   #5
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Can you outplant your herd? They decimate my small summer plots.
Got hogs? I ended up hog proofing 2 plots.
For grins I might mix in some grain sorghum.
Not sure of the name, but I used some "golden" type the animals loved after it headed out. But don't plant it heavy. I couldn't even plow the stalks in the fall.
Please update us on your progress.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:54 PM   #6
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Pearl millet maybe
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:18 PM   #7
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Got a plot ready today, going to wait on a rainy forecast and plant. Wil be putting in a mix but main seed will be something I've never tried: buckwheat. Supposed to grow fast and be a good soil conditioner.
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:27 PM   #8
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I vote iron clay peas. High in protein, drought resistant, grows in soil that's not up to par, ( although ANY crop only meets its full potential when the soil is amended ), and you could mix some soybeans in as well. If you have hogs, any kind of grain will attract them when it matures, and they will destroy it.

You can plant peas with a disc, a seeder, and a drag. No drill needed, although it would work fine also. IMO, the main advantage of a drill is no-till farming, which reduces the amount of " legacy " weed seeds that you turn up when discing. My routine, when I am planting immediately, is to spray existing weeds/grass with gly, wait about a week or so, turn it under, drag it smooth, then set your disc so that it just scratches little furrows in the ground. Most of your crop seeds will fall in these furrows when you drag it again. If I have a little more time, and the right moisture, I turn the fall/winter plot under for soil building, then wait until it starts to green up, then spray with gly to kill the emerging weeds/grass. The less you till, the less weed seeds you turn up, and some of them can lay in the ground a long time just waiting for that sunshine !
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:34 PM   #9
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depends on rainfall, i plant things that dont require as much moisture. millet and sunflowers in the spring . The deer eat most of the sunflowers as shoots and the millet is good for birds too.
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Old 02-26-2017, 09:02 AM   #10
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Got a plot ready today, going to wait on a rainy forecast and plant. Wil be putting in a mix but main seed will be something I've never tried: buckwheat. Supposed to grow fast and be a good soil conditioner.
Good article on buckwheat:

https://www.qdma.com/food-plot-speci...ile-buckwheat/
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:20 AM   #11
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thanks for the input guys. we do not have hogs. occasionally one runs through but its few and far between. I'm going to put some more research to the suggestions.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:33 AM   #12
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thanks for the input guys. we do not have hogs. occasionally one runs through but its few and far between. I'm going to put some more research to the suggestions.
If you don't have a hog plague, the grain suggestion is a good one. Cowpeas have weak vines and a little milo would give them something to climb. You might want to visit the QDMA website and research various plot options. Good luck !
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:39 AM   #13
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I'm on the qdma website now. the are saying sunflowers can help them climb on them to grow. we have some sunflowers that grow up in the power line during the summer. wondering if I should spray with gly since it may kill the sunflower. we have some hay grazer in that power line as well at comes up every year. we hate it.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:50 AM   #14
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You can NEVER go wrong with Soybeans
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:01 AM   #15
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Tuned in. I am in same boat. Little experience and all the makings in front of me. Been reading for days and as of right now im leaning towards cow peas and sunflowers.

I have hogs..alot.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:14 AM   #16
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Tuned in. I am in same boat. Little experience and all the makings in front of me. Been reading for days and as of right now im leaning towards cow peas and sunflowers.

I have hogs..alot.
When the sunflowers get ripe, the hogs will find and destroy it IMO. I used to plant a product called Power Plant from Whitetail Institute. It was a great product, somewhat expensive, that had soybeans, lab lab, sorghum, and sunflowers. The deer loved it, and they got lots of good browsing out of it until the sunflowers and sorghum ripened. The hogs would then wallow it down and utterly destroy the whole plot. That's what prompted me to go to cowpeas as my spring plots. BTW Whitetail Institute has replaced the sorghum with sunn hemp, ostensibly because it's a better deer food, but I gotta wonder if they didn't get too many complaints from us in the south about the %<€!|{ŁĄ hogs.

Edit: If anyone has an invasive weed or grass problem, you can go with RR soybeans for a couple years and pretty well rid yourself of anything in your plot except beans. They are expensive, but the ability to spray with gly when your beans are 8/10" high, and kill everything but beans, outweighs the cost factor IMO, at least for a year or two. This is a pic of RR beans in summer.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:22 AM   #17
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Same beans in winter. Bean pods galore !
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:25 AM   #18
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Cowpeas and milo is the direction I would lean.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:30 AM   #19
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Drycreek - that is one heck of a food plot there!
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:31 PM   #20
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I am the ITR for Tecomate here in Texas. We have a product called Hornmaker Extreme. It's a mix of sunn hemp, peas, and beans. Excellent summer plot especially on smaller acerage The sunn hemp is a very fast grower so it provides cover and structure for the peas and beans to get established. Because of the aggressive growth of the sunn hemp it has a much better survival rate with heavy browse in the early stages. If your not sold on the sunn hemp the old standard is LabLab. Extremely good summer plot mix. We also have LabLab Plus that add cowpeas and milo to the mix. If you have any questions on this shoot me a pm I can get you a pretty good deal on this and other products we offer
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I am the ITR for Tecomate here in Texas. We have a product called Hornmaker Extreme. It's a mix of sunn hemp, peas, and beans. Excellent summer plot especially on smaller acerage The sunn hemp is a very fast grower so it provides cover and structure for the peas and beans to get established. Because of the aggressive growth of the sunn hemp it has a much better survival rate with heavy browse in the early stages. If your not sold on the sunn hemp the old standard is LabLab. Extremely good summer plot mix. We also have LabLab Plus that add cowpeas and milo to the mix. If you have any questions on this shoot me a pm I can get you a pretty good deal on this and other products we offer
I have a hog proof plot. Deer tend to not utilize the fall food plots once green up starts. I plan on letting most of it head out. Elbow rye, wheat and oats On a portion of it I am considering a summer plot. Will your mixes grow if I use the poison and thatch method like I did very successfully with the fall planting?

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Old 03-03-2017, 06:43 PM   #22
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One thing folks overlook is chicory.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:16 PM   #23
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I have a hog proof plot. Deer tend to not utilize the fall food plots once green up starts. I plan on letting most of it head out. Elbow rye, wheat and oats On a portion of it I am considering a summer plot. Will your mixes grow if I use the poison and thatch method like I did very successfully with the fall planting?

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Yes that planting method is just fine for our mixes. That is a great planting technique if done right that is often overlooked
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:45 AM   #24
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Iron and Clay Cowpeas. Be sure and use a browse enclosure so you can move monitor the actual growth.
That's my game plan for one of my fields.
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Old 03-11-2017, 11:33 AM   #25
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According to this seed seller, this seems like an obvious choice.

http://www.seedranch.com/LabLab-Food...FQiEfgodOJ4Grg

THE " MAGIC BEAN " OF DEER FOOD PLOTS

1Lb - Plants 2000 Sq Ft.

The No. 1 " Management Plot"

Most Nutritious & Preferred Plant We've Tested
Proven to Add 20-40 inches and pounds to Mature Bucks
Unsurpassed Antler-Growing Phosphorus
Drought, Insect and Disease Resistant
Fast Growing / Tremendous Production
Grows Anywhere Soybeans & Cow-peas are Grown
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:16 PM   #26
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that stuff aint cheap..
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:22 PM   #27
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I hear several people talking about soybeans but, don't you want to drill it deeper than what the OP has equipment?
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:42 PM   #28
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I hear several people talking about soybeans but, don't you want to drill it deeper than what the OP has equipment?


I plant Laredo soybeans and just lightly disc them in.
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