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Old 03-03-2017, 06:23 AM   #1
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Default Lead Ban Lifted

Well, that didn't take long.


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Old 03-03-2017, 06:28 AM   #2
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Does this change the rules of Hagerman ?
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:30 AM   #3
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Why not? It's federal land.
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:44 AM   #5
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I was responding to the op. #2 snuck in
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:57 AM   #7
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normally i hear that happening in the other direction...
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:01 AM   #8
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Glad to see this.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:10 AM   #9
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:16 AM   #10
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:45 AM   #11
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awesome. I hope we get rid of a lot more pointless feelgood regulation
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:49 AM   #12
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awesome. I hope we get rid of a lot more pointless feelgood regulation
My thoughts exactly. The minute amount of lead fired or fished with is harmless. He!! as a kid I carried my pellets in my lip like a dip.

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Old 03-03-2017, 08:03 AM   #13
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My thoughts exactly. The minute amount of lead fired or fished with is harmless. He!! as a kid I carried my pellets in my lip like a dip.

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Haha. I did the same as a kid.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:07 AM   #14
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:13 AM   #16
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Haha. I did the same as a kid.
We used to do the same. Was laughing with a fellow TBHr about that recently.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:17 AM   #17
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My thoughts exactly. The minute amount of lead fired or fished with is harmless. He!! as a kid I carried my pellets in my lip like a dip.

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We did this too in LA!!! I thought we were the only ones!

Man I hope they lift the Lead ban on ducks! I have never seen a duck get hit as hard by anything as the old 2 3/4 Lead loads.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:25 AM   #18
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We did this too in LA!!! I thought we were the only ones!

Man I hope they lift the Lead ban on ducks! I have never seen a duck get hit as hard by anything as the old 2 3/4 Lead loads.
You know I've often wondered how many birds fly off to die later from Steel shot.

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Old 03-03-2017, 08:33 AM   #19
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You know I've often wondered how many birds fly off to die later from Steel shot.

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It's unreal, I can't even count how many birds I've watched get hammered and sail a few hundred yards or just keep flying with steel. Lead freaking stones them instantly. Not even a comparison.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend on fancy 3" or 3.5" steel it doesn't work as good as lead.

I could almost understand the argument for not shooting lead on say public ground, or rice fields where the rice is for human consumption. But no way on private land. And even more ridiculous that you can shoot 10k rounds of lead at dove on the same place in September.

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Old 03-03-2017, 10:34 AM   #20
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Yep, carried my 22 cal. Benjamins in my mouth too and later the 5mm Sheridan pellets... probably swallowed a few over the years...

Good thing we didn't have all these restrictions when we wuz groin' up... we'd probably all be dedd by now... I don't know how as kids we ever went outside an' played without getting abducted, run over, or kilt some other way...

Bet y'all never bit a lead shot onto your fishin' line either...
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:40 AM   #21
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this explains a lot from a few of you and your metal dip!
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:40 AM   #22
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Does this change the rules of Hagerman ?
Curious on this as well. Anyone know?
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:40 AM   #23
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All they have to do now is re-open the last remaining lead smelter that was closed by Obama and bullet and ammo prices might just get cheaper.
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:59 AM   #24
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You know I've often wondered how many birds fly off to die later from Steel shot.

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A LOT more than people think! I've seen so many ducks get hammered with steel shot, feathers flying all over the place just to see them glide down several hundred yards away never to be found.

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It's unreal, I can't even count how many birds I've watched get hammered and sail a few hundred yards or just keep flying with steel. Lead freaking stones them instantly. Not even a comparison.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend on fancy 3" or 3.5" steel it doesn't work as good as lead.

I could almost understand the argument for not shooting lead on say public ground, or rice fields where the rice is for human consumption. But no way on private land. And even more ridiculous that you can shoot 10k rounds of lead at dove on the same place in September.

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No CHIT!! How stupid is it that we can hunt dove over a water hole in September with lead shot, but we have to use steel shot in November to hunt ducks over the SAME D@%N water?!?!

And I'm another one that carried pellets in my my mouth and used my teeth on split shot weights when fishing.

Please keep making stupid laws to protect me from myself!!........NOT
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:42 AM   #25
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so when or will we see TPWD change the law?
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:05 PM   #26
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so when or will we see TPWD change the law?
What law?

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Old 03-03-2017, 12:21 PM   #27
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Before anyone goes out and buys a bunch of lead shot for waterfowl hunting, read the whole thread and the rule change. It only removes the ban on lead rifle bullets and fishing weights on federal land which the Obama administration put in effect as he was going out the door.

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Old 03-03-2017, 08:43 PM   #29
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My thoughts exactly. The minute amount of lead fired or fished with is harmless. He!! as a kid I carried my pellets in my lip like a dip.

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Maybe this is what's wrong with kids today, they're not getting enough lead!
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If you haven't; buy a box of #4 lead Nitro Mag. Them's some bad dudes!!!


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Old 03-04-2017, 09:35 AM   #32
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Before anyone goes out and buys a bunch of lead shot for waterfowl hunting, read the whole thread and the rule change. It only removes the ban on lead rifle bullets and fishing weights on federal land which the Obama administration put in effect as he was going out the door.
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Old 03-04-2017, 08:24 PM   #33
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Way back there. the tooth paste tubes were made out of lead. We would cut them up and wrap on our fishing lines for slip sinkers.
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:04 PM   #35
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Way back there. the tooth paste tubes were made out of lead. We would cut them up and wrap on our fishing lines for slip sinkers.
I remember soft metal toothpaste tubes. It never occurred to me that they were made of lead.
Maybe they weren't in my day.
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Not sure folks are reading!!!
We are. Just hoping they expand this further to allow lead back for waterfowl.

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We are. Just hoping they expand this further to allow lead back for waterfowl.

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So, while this corrects the nonsensical ban with bullets and lures, where do slugs fall into the equation? I get it is a "shotshell"... I have been wondering for the last few days...
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So, while this corrects the nonsensical ban with bullets and lures, where do slugs fall into the equation? I get it is a "shotshell"... I have been wondering for the last few days...
No sir and it is not legal to shoot migratory game birds with either.
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It's unreal, I can't even count how many birds I've watched get hammered and sail a few hundred yards or just keep flying with steel. Lead freaking stones them instantly. Not even a comparison.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend on fancy 3" or 3.5" steel it doesn't work as good as lead.

I could almost understand the argument for not shooting lead on say public ground, or rice fields where the rice is for human consumption. But no way on private land. And even more ridiculous that you can shoot 10k rounds of lead at dove on the same place in September.

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The two main reasons people complain about shooting steel at ducks:

1. They're bad shots

2. They're sky busters and just don't know it.

You do not need magnum loads to kill ducks IF you are shooting at ducks that are at reasonable distances.

Sure, lead carries more energy, but cheap steel loads will kill ducks stone dead at 40 yards and that is certainly sky busting distance.
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The two main reasons people complain about shooting steel at ducks:

1. They're bad shots

2. They're sky busters and just don't know it.

You do not need magnum loads to kill ducks IF you are shooting at ducks that are at reasonable distances.

Sure, lead carries more energy, but cheap steel loads will kill ducks stone dead at 40 yards and that is certainly sky busting distance.
I don't shoot mags. I shoot Kent fasteel #4. And I don't pull the trigger until their feet are down over the water. Yes I kill a lot of ducks. But there's probably a dozen or more a season I would have also killed if shooting lead.

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The two main reasons people complain about shooting steel at ducks:

1. They're bad shots

2. They're sky busters and just don't know it.

You do not need magnum loads to kill ducks IF you are shooting at ducks that are at reasonable distances.

Sure, lead carries more energy, but cheap steel loads will kill ducks stone dead at 40 yards and that is certainly sky busting distance.
I couldn't agree with you more! Spot on. (but I'd still prefer to shoot 2 3/4" lead #5's for ducks in the timber or #6 lead 3" .410 for early teal. )
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