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Old 07-17-2015, 08:56 AM   #151
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:58 PM   #152
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Got an envelope in the mail today. Hope was dashed when i got my Form 1 application back and a form stating the sheriff had put his title, but did not put the agency name. Called them and verified I could add the information myself without taking it back to the SO. Sending it back today with the correction.
Called today to make sure corrections had been accepted--SURPRISE--approved on 7/19!!!! Submitted 4/1/15 individual, paper form--less than 4 months to approval. Now the wait for it to be put in the mail and arrival to my mailbox.
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Old 07-24-2015, 09:14 PM   #153
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I could have sworn there was an SBR picture thread. Did I imagine this or does my search fu just suck?
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I didn't make one.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:36 AM   #155
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Yet?
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I'm so new to all this gun stuff I feel someone else work more experience should.

My next thread: "Buying my first Deer Rifle... 223, 243, 308, or 300wm... what do you think?"
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:23 PM   #157
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I'm so new to all this gun stuff I feel someone else work more experience should.

My next thread: "Buying my first Deer Rifle... 223, 243, 308, or 300wm... what do you think?"

You forgot 30-30 and 458 wm
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I'm so new to all this gun stuff I feel someone else work more experience should.

My next thread: "Buying my first Deer Rifle... 223, 243, 308, or 300wm... what do you think?"
Don't forget 22-250
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Next thread: where do you shoot stuff? Head shots with 17hmr on elephants?
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Old 07-25-2015, 04:08 PM   #160
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Alright guys. I started a thread for us to put pics of our SBR's. Hope you can join in Coach as soon as you are done with your elephant hunt....
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:10 AM   #161
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Got my Form 1 stamp in the mail today. Four months from submission to stamp in hand. I will fire up the lathe Monday and get to work on my suppressor!
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:15 AM   #162
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Got my Form 1 stamp in the mail today. Four months from submission to stamp in hand. I will fire up the lathe Monday and get to work on my suppressor!
When did you send yours?I sent mine 4/1 they got it on 4/3. Check was cashed on 4/16.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:51 AM   #163
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When did you send yours?I sent mine 4/1 they got it on 4/3. Check was cashed on 4/16.
Sent mine in just before yours. If you call it only takes them a minute to check if it has been approved. (304)616-4500. They look it up under your serial number. It took 1 week from approval date to my mailbox.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:01 PM   #165
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Any updates? I'm going on 5 months now for a Form 1.
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:55 PM   #166
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Any updates? I'm going on 5 months now for a Form 1.

E file or paper?

Im at 105 days on my e-file F1.

Last two back in Nov & Jan were 35 days.
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Old 08-24-2015, 03:31 AM   #167
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Old 08-24-2015, 10:59 AM   #168
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My paper F1 from last year took right at 6 months.
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:17 AM   #169
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still wating. sent mid may
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:38 AM   #170
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Sent June 15th

So 70 days roughly
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:35 AM   #171
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Coming up on 90 days soon on my form 1 so hoping for about 1 more month

Have 2 form 4's that were cashed on April 25th that I'm waiting to show up any day now!

Was curious to any recent form 4 approvals you guys had had? (Date wise)
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:50 AM   #172
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2 cans bought 3/23 from silencer shop. Checks cashed 3/26. Approved 8/12, stamps arrived at SS Monday week ago.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:45 PM   #173
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Paper Form 1. 5 months and 12 days. Sent in 4/1 check cashed 4/16 stamp came in 9/12.
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Old 09-15-2015, 05:33 PM   #174
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form 4 dropped in the mail today. (04.25.15)
received stamp today, it arrived @ my SOT On friday (09.11.15)
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:18 PM   #175
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Sooooo... i still have 3 months left on a F1 and a F4?? You guys are clogging up the system.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:51 PM   #176
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Week away from 5 months on the form 4's and hit day 90 on the form 1
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:29 AM   #177
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You guys are worrying me with this wait on the form 1! Submitted 8-21 so I guess I'm looking at December if I'm lucky
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You guys are worrying me with this wait on the form 1! Submitted 8-21 so I guess I'm looking at December if I'm lucky
With the upwards trend id think after the new year probably
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:48 AM   #179
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Any idea on what's going on with the waits?
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All you guys are clogging up the system. Quit it.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:57 AM   #181
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Theres probably been as many submissions in the last year as there has the previous 2-3 years combined before that
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Old 09-16-2015, 09:09 AM   #182
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Ya I don't doubt it.
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:25 AM   #183
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Contacted Jake yesterday and he said he was pretty sure my tax stamps came in last week when he was out hunting! Whoop!!

Said yesterday I could pick them up Thursday.... Sure hope he was talking about today Thursday
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:40 PM   #184
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For those that have gone through the Form 1, what are the status changes along the way?

I called ATF this morning to check on my Form 1, and still in the Pending state since June 6.

What's next, will it go straight to approved or are there other steps in the middle?
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For those that have gone through the Form 1, what are the status changes along the way?

I called ATF this morning to check on my Form 1, and still in the Pending state since June 6.

What's next, will it go straight to approved or are there other steps in the middle?
Should go straight to approved (unless its not approved)

you should be about 10-20 days away I believe (If I was a betting man)
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Old 09-18-2015, 10:24 AM   #186
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Should go straight to approved (unless its not approved)

you should be about 10-20 days away I believe (If I was a betting man)
I sure hope you're right.
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For those that have gone through the Form 1, what are the status changes along the way?

I called ATF this morning to check on my Form 1, and still in the Pending state since June 6.

What's next, will it go straight to approved or are there other steps in the middle?
I sent mine in on 4/1 it was pending on 4/15. The date on the stamp was 8/24 I got it in the mail on 9/12. I don't know what steps they did from 4/15 to 8/24 but it must have been a lot lol.
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I have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?
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I have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?

Actually the silencerco trust is one that the ATF has specifically made comments about being trouble ridden.

You would be much better off paying a little more and having a lawyer that is well versed in NFA trusts do it for you.

Sean Cody in Houston and Cole Bryan in Ft Worth are 2 good ones.
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I have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?
The shop I used did the trust for free when I paid for my can. My wait wasn't any longer or shorter than those that paid 400 bucks
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The shop I used did the trust for free when I paid for my can. My wait wasn't any longer or shorter than those that paid 400 bucks
The problem with gun shop trusts is not long wait times. .. it's down the road when a trust is really worth is weight in gold.

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2015/...easytrust.html

Do some research.. you're going to want to... a gun trust is not just about getting things approved now.. it's about protecting your loved ones when you pass on.
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The problem with gun shop trusts is not long wait times. .. it's down the road when a trust is really worth is weight in gold.

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2015/...easytrust.html

Do some research.. you're going to want to... a gun trust is not just about getting things approved now.. it's about protecting your loved ones when you pass on.
Thats what I am concerned about. From what I can tell creating a trust is creating a new entity like a corporation etc. If not done right it apparently can be null and void. Also it appears as if things in the trust are not probated upon your death so you can add all of your guns etc ( not just suppressed) and then NOT put them in a will so you can be 100% sure they go where you wat them after you pass. There is no fighting it like a will. I think it will also avoid inheritance taxes also IIRC.
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Mine was wrote by an attorney who is also a customer. He felt there was no reason for him to make money on people for something so simple. He allows the shop to continue to use it and doesn't ask for a dime.
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Mine was wrote by an attorney who is also a customer. He felt there was no reason for him to make money on people for something so simple. He allows the shop to continue to use it and doesn't ask for a dime.
Would you mind posting or pm'ing me the shop name? I want it right but there is no point in paying more than I have to.
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He allows the shop to continue to use it and doesn't ask for a dime.
This would send me running for the hills..

So what he is saying is that everyone's needs in a trust are exactly the same? Everybody has the same family, living arrangements, for example. . Can your beneficiary be in sole ownership of the items in the trust? At what age can a beneficiary become a trustee.. Or can they? If so can they then add things to the trust themselves.. can you add trustees/beneficiaries? Who has the authority to change or make those decisions? The settlor? A trustee? Beneficary? What's your blanket trust say..


Seriously educate yourself. .. you might be giving away your nfa firearms when you die and not be aware of it: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...s-law-seminar/

ATF correspondence From that link about a "fill in the blank trust" that some lawyer left for free..

"The problem was that some people didn’t actually edit the document correctly. For some people, this created inconsistencies that resulted in the form being sent back. For others, well the form was technically filled out correctly, but probably with a result that was unintended.

Unfortunately, some of the people who used the form for their own trusts neglected to change the “beneficiary” from the original. So that means there’s now some woman in Kansas who is technically the beneficiary of many of these trusts and is set to inherit….I think he said “thousands of” machine guns, silencers, etc."

Lol. Again I'll caution anyone from using one of these cheap/free/fill in the blank trust... it's your money and items (until you die) so do what you want..

Last thing: Having a stamp approved on a trust doesn't necessarily validate your trust.. as pointed out above. Have fun. Call a lawyer versed in NFA laws... Or don't and risk not being covered.
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Here's another data point for those who came hear to read about wait times and not the argument over trusts. My BIL filed on May 23 and was approved on Sept. 22. That's 4 months (122 days).
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This would send me running for the hills..

So what he is saying is that everyone's needs in a trust are exactly the same? Everybody has the same family, living arrangements, for example. . Can your beneficiary be in sole ownership of the items in the trust? At what age can a beneficiary become a trustee.. Or can they? If so can they then add things to the trust themselves.. can you add trustees/beneficiaries? Who has the authority to change or make those decisions? The settlor? A trustee? Beneficary? What's your blanket trust say..


Seriously educate yourself. .. you might be giving away your nfa firearms when you die and not be aware of it: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...s-law-seminar/

ATF correspondence From that link about a "fill in the blank trust" that some lawyer left for free..

"The problem was that some people didn’t actually edit the document correctly. For some people, this created inconsistencies that resulted in the form being sent back. For others, well the form was technically filled out correctly, but probably with a result that was unintended.

Unfortunately, some of the people who used the form for their own trusts neglected to change the “beneficiary” from the original. So that means there’s now some woman in Kansas who is technically the beneficiary of many of these trusts and is set to inherit….I think he said “thousands of” machine guns, silencers, etc."

Lol. Again I'll caution anyone from using one of these cheap/free/fill in the blank trust... it's your money and items (until you die) so do what you want..

Last thing: Having a stamp approved on a trust doesn't necessarily validate your trust.. as pointed out above. Have fun. Call a lawyer versed in NFA laws... Or don't and risk not being covered.
Is there anything you won't argue with?

Yes I can add (22 lr in the near future. I'm good on people). I'm the settlor. If I die my wife becomes, after that my son, who are beneficiaries. God for bid something happen to all of us,well I could care less.

If you or others want to spend 300,400 or however much on a trust fine. Go ahead. I trust the people who set mine up with keys to my house. That's enough for me
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Is there anything you won't argue with?
On the contrary the point of my posts was to add to your argument for fill in the blank trust with analytical data about trust in general that equally represent facts from both sides (analytical). I'd say my posts just adds details you may have omitted to prove your side (argumentative).

I could care less what you did/do. Miket is good people that helped/is helping me out with night vision knowledge. I'd hate to see him only get half the story and wind up with a trust that may not fit his needs. I almost just PM'ed him.. but thought maybe someone out there reading all this one size fits all stuff may be in need of the other half of the story as well.

I guess I should have just PM'ed him.. and not had to worry if I offended someone with facts about trusts. Lol. No argument here. ..unless you'd like one.. in which case: "nuh uh"
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Is there anything you won't argue with?

Yes I can add (22 lr in the near future. I'm good on people). I'm the settlor. If I die my wife becomes, after that my son, who are beneficiaries. God for bid something happen to all of us,well I could care less.

If you or others want to spend 300,400 or however much on a trust fine. Go ahead. I trust the people who set mine up with keys to my house. That's enough for me

Is that going to be "good enough" for you if the ATF comes knocking on your door for federal charges? Is he going to represent you in court too?

I know my lawyer that prepared my trust will be. $250-$400 is chump change for peace of mind when getting into the NFA world.
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Is that going to be "good enough" for you if the ATF comes knocking on your door for federal charges? Is he going to represent you in court too?

I know my lawyer that prepared my trust will be. $250-$400 is chump change for peace of mind when getting into the NFA world.
I realistically don't see that happening to either of us but, yes, yes it is. I also don't see a 400 dollar attorney or a free one for that matter representing anyone in federal court.
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