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Old 05-05-2017, 07:35 AM   #1
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Looks like we may not have to get our trucks inspected in the near future in Texas. I hope this passes.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:43 AM   #2
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That would be nice
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:44 AM   #3
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I hope so. Its just another money grab and pointless.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:45 AM   #4
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Still would have to do emissions is most counties. But hope it passes
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:54 AM   #5
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Still would have to do emissions is most counties. But hope it passes
Yeah this is true. I'm pretty sure my truck, for example, doesn't have to pass emissions. It's a '99 F250 PSD. Can anyone verify this? If this passes, would it mean that I no longer have to get it inspected at all. I'm pretty sure that when it gets inspected now all it is is the safety inspection and not emissions.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:56 AM   #6
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:57 AM   #7
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Yeah this is true. I'm pretty sure my truck, for example, doesn't have to pass emissions. It's a '99 F250 PSD. Can anyone verify this? If this passes, would it mean that I no longer have to get it inspected at all. I'm pretty sure that when it gets inspected now all it is is the safety inspection and not emissions.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:58 AM   #8
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Yeah this is true. I'm pretty sure my truck, for example, doesn't have to pass emissions. It's a '99 F250 PSD. Can anyone verify this? If this passes, would it mean that I no longer have to get it inspected at all. I'm pretty sure that when it gets inspected now all it is is the safety inspection and not emissions.
Think you have a few more years to go on a 99. I have a 92 yj and last year was the first year I qualified for safety only. 25yrs old I believe
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some vehicles just shouldn't be on the road. But I guess inspections don't really stop them now do they?
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:01 AM   #10
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Yeah this is true. I'm pretty sure my truck, for example, doesn't have to pass emissions. It's a '99 F250 PSD. Can anyone verify this? If this passes, would it mean that I no longer have to get it inspected at all. I'm pretty sure that when it gets inspected now all it is is the safety inspection and not emissions.
I'm fairly certain diesel trucks don't have emissions testing
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:01 AM   #11
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If they do this the state should take a better look at uninsured drivers and quadruple the fines.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:11 AM   #12
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:11 AM   #13
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Its a waste of time for $7.00..Back when they at least adjusted Headlights it kept that part in order..Now every other Raised/Leveled PU on road Blind folks..
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:13 AM   #14
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And running fog lights
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:17 AM   #15
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If they do this the state should take a better look at uninsured drivers and quadruple the fines.
While I agree with the sentiment - If they dont have insurance, I doubt they would pay a hefty fine either.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:22 AM   #16
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My '93 is safety only now.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:34 AM   #17
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Whoa! We getting our rights back! What a step forward. According to the constitution, as long as you are traveling while on personal business, you do not have to have a drivers license, insurance, registration, or an inspection. If you use the highways for conducting business then you do!


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Old 05-05-2017, 08:52 AM   #18
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I for one will be happy to see it go.


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Old 05-05-2017, 08:54 AM   #19
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I'm fairly certain diesel trucks don't have emissions testing


Diesel emissions inspection is visual only. No testing but supposed to have DPF, muffler etc
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:55 AM   #20
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Parker county requires emission so I would still have to do that. But I wouldn't complain to see safety inspections go away. At least here it is cheaper than PA. I would $30 for state and another $40-50 depending on the shop for emissions.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:57 AM   #21
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The place I go to has a dummy car parked in the parking lot. If it is obvious you vehicle will not pass they will tell you they can help to make it pass but you will need to come back in 2 hours. After you leave they pull the dummy car in and use that vehicle as a substitute for yours. It will cost you an extra $50 for the "work" they did to get your vehicle to pass.
I say this to say this......useless law.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:03 AM   #22
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Whoa! We getting our rights back! What a step forward. According to the constitution, as long as you are traveling while on personal business, you do not have to have a drivers license, insurance, registration, or an inspection. If you use the highways for conducting business then you do!


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The founding fathers were so smart to address car inspections way back in 1776 when they wrote the constitution.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:09 AM   #23
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I have a 1995 F-150. I hope it can pass emissions for the next couple of years.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:10 AM   #24
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I hope so. Its just another money grab and pointless.
You really think any government entity will take a pay cut? You WILL still pay it, just not for an inspection. They will hide it somewhere else and most likely you'll be paying more in the long run.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:12 AM   #25
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With the same stroke of the pen they need to get rid of the trailer inspections
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With the same stroke of the pen they need to get rid of the trailer inspections


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So, are they keeping trailer inspections?
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:16 AM   #28
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Knowing the collective morons in the Capital, probably so.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:17 AM   #29
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With the same stroke of the pen they need to get rid of the trailer inspections
These are a true waste of time. I have multiple trailers and none of the inspections so far were more than a casual look at the trailer. Did not check lights, brakes or chains. Just another money grab!

Now - I understand that some trailers (like vehicles) should not be on the road. If they are going to charge for the inspection - at least do it right!
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:21 AM   #30
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Its a waste of time for $7.00..Back when they at least adjusted Headlights it kept that part in order..Now every other Raised/Leveled PU on road Blind folks..
My thoughts exactly !!!!
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:41 AM   #31
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You really think any government entity will take a pay cut? You WILL still pay it, just not for an inspection. They will hide it somewhere else and most likely you'll be paying more in the long run.
Like they currently did with the whole one sticker thing. I pay more now than when it was 2
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:46 AM   #32
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I hope it passes before I have to buy new tires. I still have a few miles in them but they won't pass.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:57 AM   #33
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What about the trailer inspections? It's a pain in the you know what to have to hook on the camper every year and drag it in for a 5 minute inspection.
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Old 05-05-2017, 11:02 AM   #34
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I completely agree. Especially my camper. The time it takes me to hook up, haul, and then return and unhook isn't worth it. Plus trying to find a place around me where it's easy to maneuver around. All for them to input the VIN and weight and collect my $7.
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Whoa! We getting our rights back! What a step forward. According to the constitution, as long as you are traveling while on personal business, you do not have to have a drivers license, insurance, registration, or an inspection. If you use the highways for conducting business then you do!


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You really think any government entity will take a pay cut? You WILL still pay it, just not for an inspection. They will hide it somewhere else and most likely you'll be paying more in the long run.


Yep. I think it is comical to think that the government that gave the tax in the first place, somehow wrote themselves out of that tax.

By the comments a person might believe that 100,000 people marched on the state capital and had a 30 day siege and the Senate gave in.

The way I read the bill (and I might be wrong as it is so long and convoluted) is that they are getting rid of the inspection but keeping the fees to be paid at the time of registration. That is, nothing goes away except for someone reviewing your vehicle. You pay for an "inspection" that never happens. They save money by not having to run the inspection program.... in some counties.

The bill that the Senate passed has a new section in the vehicles laws called "Inspection Program Replacement Fees". That lists the fees to be charged when the registration is renewed.
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:49 PM   #38
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some drivers just shouldn't be on the road. But I guess inspections don't really stop them now do they?
Fixed it!
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:31 PM   #39
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some vehicles just shouldn't be on the road. But I guess inspections don't really stop them now do they?
Yep and not having insurance doesn't stop anyone from driving. They need to tow every car that doesn't have insurance and leave the folks walking.
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Whoa! We getting our rights back! What a step forward. According to the constitution, as long as you are traveling while on personal business, you do not have to have a drivers license, insurance, registration, or an inspection. If you use the highways for conducting business then you do!


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Where is Smart's Eddie Murphy gif when you need it?


Why don't you drive around without all of the things you mentioned?

Maybe make a live thread out of it and take us all the way to the judgement of the court?

Pretty sure you have to have a license, insurance, inspection and registration currently

Matter of fact, I doubt you can get 3 of the above without the 4th
They ask me for insurance when I got inspection, registration and I think license renewal
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:47 PM   #42
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Anytime there is a law change it's another Avenue to get more money out of our pockets.

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So, are they keeping trailer inspections?
thats why i stripped everything i could out of my travel trailer and took it to the scales and had the title changed to less than 4000 lbs to get around the inspection.
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Yes!
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The founding fathers were so smart to address car inspections way back in 1776 when they wrote the constitution.


Yes, it is nice to know they thought about and addressed our rights to be free citizens, free travel, free commerce, free thinkers 240 years ago.


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Yep and not having insurance doesn't stop anyone from driving. They need to tow every car that doesn't have insurance and leave the folks walking.


Amen. My SIL has been hit (small fender benders) by 2 people this year already with no insurance. Guess who picked up that bill?
Or whoever hits someone else should had the guts to get out and say, Dang bro (or mam) sorry bout that one. How much is this gonna cost me???


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Why don't you drive around without all of the things you mentioned?



Maybe make a live thread out of it and take us all the way to the judgement of the court?



Pretty sure you have to have a license, insurance, inspection and registration currently



Matter of fact, I doubt you can get 3 of the above without the 4th

They ask me for insurance when I got inspection, registration and I think license renewal

Maybe I should make the thread. Alittle history for ya.

In the U.S., the law that governs motor vehicles is the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act.

But according to the Constitution;

Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
Case #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

Case #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

Case #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

Case #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.

So, are you allowed to travel in a motor vehicle in the U.S. without a driver's license?


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mind quoting the constitution on this ?
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