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Old 12-08-2014, 11:32 AM   #201
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Other than not wanting beer over 60 days old period, what specifically about makes an IPA less desireable after 60 days?

Hops is a natural preservative and the higher hop amounts in an IPA should preserve it longer than ales with less hops.
The hop profile fades quickly in a lot if IPA'S. Example, fresh Firestone Walker Double Jack, <4 wks old, is a citrus bomb. The older it gets the more mute to nonexistent the citrus flavors become. Beers you can age are barleywines, some stouts, lambics, sours and barrel aged beers. The only DIPA worth aging is DFH 120 minute. I also forgot to add Trappists ales age very well. One of the best beers I've ever had was an 8 year old Westvleteren yellow cap.

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Old 12-08-2014, 11:56 AM   #202
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The hop profile fades quickly in a lot if IPA'S. Example, fresh Firestone Walker Double Jack, <4 wks old, is a citrus bomb. The older it gets the more mute to nonexistent the citrus flavors become. Beers you can age are barleywines, some stouts, lambics, sours and barrel aged beers. The only DIPA worth aging is DFH 120 minute. I also forgot to add Trappists ales age very well. One of the best beers I've ever had was an 8 year old Westvleteren yellow cap.
All beers will mellow with age, though 60 days isn't a ton of age. The style shouldn't matter much, but beers that are naturally fermented in the bottle, and/or high gravity will take to aging better.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:12 PM   #204
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All beers will mellow with age, though 60 days isn't a ton of age. The style shouldn't matter much, but beers that are naturally fermented in the bottle, and/or high gravity will take to aging better.
60 is not a lot of time but the flavors provided by hops fade at a faster rate then lower hopped beers.
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This ^^^^ One of my favorite as well!! Real Ale Coffee Porter is also really good.
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Other than not wanting beer over 60 days old period, what specifically about makes an IPA less desireable after 60 days?

Hops is a natural preservative and the higher hop amounts in an IPA should preserve it longer than ales with less hops.
Preservation isn't the point, it's the intended hop profile. IPAs are simply meant to drink fresh. I have aged a DIPA before, and it tasted more like a barley wine after a year. It was a DFH 90 minute, FYI.
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Actually, the hop profiles of IPA were originally intended for preservation.

If you want that citrus flavor from the later hop adds to come back you can wait (it will reassert itself later in the life of the ale) or drink it warmer.
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For sure. Lawnmower, pale ale, Elissa. I like the Christmas Brew. Octoberfest is awesome.
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Actually, the hop profiles of IPA were originally intended for preservation.

If you want that citrus flavor from the later hop adds to come back you can wait (it will reassert itself later in the life of the ale) or drink it warmer.

Yes they were intended to preserve through shipping but the American affinity for hops is different from the original intent of the English version.

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Old 12-08-2014, 02:50 PM   #211
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Got some beef ribs, sausage and a few bombers to try out tonight.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:32 PM   #213
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How was that st arnolds?
If you have not had a beer that's sour or tart it's a good intro to those types. Imagine a wheat beet with a touch of lemon sour profile.
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Guess I'm officially confused as to the whole beer aging thing now. Didn't know age was such a factor with some. Can someone expand on this for us beer laymen?
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Guess I'm officially confused as to the whole beer aging thing now. Didn't know age was such a factor with some. Can someone expand on this for us beer laymen?
Some beers are meant to be drank fresh such as IPA/DIPA. Some beers mature and get better with time such as Trappists ales, stouts, barleywines and bourbon barrel aged beers. The hops will fade quickly so drink fresh. Some bourbon barrel beers are hot, aka the bourbon over powers the beer, and aging it will let the bourbon flavors Mello and three base beer will shine through. Some beers change flavors as they mature just like wine.

Edit....The brewery Deschutes actually puts best after dates on some of their seasonal release beers.
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Karbach Yule Shoot Your Eye Out is on the menu for tonight.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:45 AM   #218
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I've been trying a lot of craft beers in the past two weeks. Especially since I just finished finals on Tuesday. So far, I really like all the Rahr & Sons beers I've drank. Their blonder beer is the best blonde I've ever drank so far.

I've also come to the conclusion that these craft beers have led to many a drunk, late nights! Good night/morning GS
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Old 12-11-2014, 04:00 AM   #219
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Never tried some of this stuff, good do it now
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:33 AM   #220
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Tried the Bearded Eel Hopposebly IPA last night. Not bad.. a 70 IBU.
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Another batch of Irish Stout is fermenting...

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Ok, with all of you beer experts assembled, maybe someone can help me. I have tried all the "common" beers and find them nasty as heck! They have all tasted the same to me, bitter,sour just plain nasty. Is there any such thing as a beer with "real" taste/flavor? Would appreciate any input.
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Another batch of Irish Stout is fermenting...

Lookin good Michael. Keep an eye on it. Last stout I brewed landed my airlock into the ceiling (batch still turned out good). I now run a blow off style system.

Mainly because getting yeast off of the ceiling of the living room is hard and my wife never lets me forget when she finds a spot i missed cleaning
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Ok, with all of you beer experts assembled, maybe someone can help me. I have tried all the "common" beers and find them nasty as heck! They have all tasted the same to me, bitter,sour just plain nasty. Is there any such thing as a beer with "real" taste/flavor? Would appreciate any input.

The beer that got me in to craft beer was Chimay Grand Reserve. I'm not much of a lager fan, I do like some bocks, but I prefer ales.
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Another batch of Irish Stout is fermenting...

Looking good.
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Lookin good Michael. Keep an eye on it. Last stout I brewed landed my airlock into the ceiling (batch still turned out good). I now run a blow off style system.



Mainly because getting yeast off of the ceiling of the living room is hard and my wife never lets me forget when she finds a spot i missed cleaning

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Been there, done that!!!! I had to move my carboys out to the garage after I had a airlock explosion. I have a 5 gallon batch of Haus Pale Ale that's been fermenting since Monday.
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Been there, done that!!!! I had to move my carboys out to the garage after I had a airlock explosion. I have a 5 gallon batch of Haus Pale Ale that's been fermenting since Monday.
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He even kegs it.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:26 PM   #231
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Myself and cookemerkel have been known to drink a little variety of brews. Couldn't get the whole garage but y'all get the idea.





And yes they are all different and all empty!
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I'm taking possession of this tomorrow! No more bottling for me!!!!



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We've been supporting Texas beer and wine for a while now. The fridge is full of mostly Rahr beer with some St. Arnold, and Real Ale.

I like most of Rahr's brews hands down as well as St. Arnolds. Shiner Ruby Redbird is great as well as their Black Lager and the Bock.

Real Ale's Devil's Backbone is great. I'm a bit partial since I've logged a lot of miles on that road with the bike...as well as the twisted sisters.
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Ima need a bottle or two for a taste test.


Looking at all these beers makes me want to start venturing out of my comfort zone and start trying some!
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This is the beer for me. Only problem is I have to go 1500 miles to get it.

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Looking at all these beers makes me want to start venturing out of my comfort zone and start trying some!

Swing by any time brother!
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Tonight seemed like a good night for cans. Both are pretty good
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It's very tasty. I really like this one as well from Sam Adams.
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