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Old 05-18-2017, 10:17 PM   #1
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We have a calf we bought (born the 1st of the year)that just dropped a bunch of weight and has gotten to the point of struggling to get up.
We thought it was wormy so we gave it feed through wormer a few weeks ago and it dropped more weight. We thought it probably didn't get enough to get it cleared up so it got a shot of wormer tuesday.
It has a very snotty greenish discharge so yesterday I gave it a penicillin shotthen another today.
Today the discharge seemed clear again but it's still weak but the scours are gone.
It is eating just not chowing down.
We have been giving it a couple of raw eggs a day for protein, CMPK, some probios for her stomach and electrolytes in her water.
I felt like she was headed in the right direction with the eating better and drinking and seemed to getting a little more strength.
We got home tonight and she was laying there just crapping without standing up, also noticed she was peeing.
I walked over to see if she would stand and she really struggled to get up and I noticed blood in her stool.

Could it have been bad worms and will it take a day or three for her to get strength back?
Any input would be great

Below is a pic of the stool
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:29 PM   #2
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Sounds like a call to the vet is in order if not a trip to the vet.


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Old 05-18-2017, 10:29 PM   #3
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidiosis
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:31 PM   #4
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Take that manure and the calf to the vet.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:40 PM   #5
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Take that manure and the calf to the vet.
That's where we are headed in the morning. I thought we turned the corner but when we got in tonight and I went to check on her she seemed worse.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:45 PM   #6
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Take a fresh stool sample to the vet yesterday! Our calf was acting similar to yours a few months back. We only had to have them analyze a small sample to find an infection was the cause. I had wormed him a week or so earlier and the vet said it looked like I had gotten most of them, but he "gave" me 3 shots to give him. One, I think, was an anti-inflammatory and the other 2, I believe, were antibiotics, but not penicillin. 6cc excede 200 mL, 3cc banamine 50 mL, and 15cc baytril 100 mL is what we got. I think time is your enemy here. Our visit and medication bill was around $75.

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Take a fresh stool sample to the vet yesterday! Our calf was acting similar to yours a few months back. We only had to have them analyze a small sample to find an infection was the cause. I had wormed him a week or so earlier and the vet said it looked like I had gotten most of them, but he "gave" me 3 shots to give him. One, I think, was an anti-inflammatory and the other 2, I believe, were antibiotics, but not penicillin. 6cc excede 200 mL, 3cc banamine 50 mL, and 15cc baytril 100 mL is what we got. I think time is your enemy here. Our visit and medication bill was around $75.

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I agree, I thought we could get a head of it and it looks like we were too late. We'll see what the vet says in the morning
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:08 PM   #8
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If you would have gave the calf a shot of LA300 earlier it would have probably straightened
the calf out. With the calf being so weak now it's going to be hard to save her.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:10 PM   #9
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I agree, I thought we could get a head of it and it looks like we were too late. We'll see what the vet says in the morning
I thought the same thing, and everything I googled pointed to coccidiosis (thank God it wasn't). This is a slaughter calf, and I thought I was gonna be out a lot of money. Good luck, and keep us posted on the results please!

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Update on calf?
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:14 AM   #11
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That manure looks like blood in it, possibly coccidiosis
Prob should visit a veterinarian pretty quick
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:18 AM   #12
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any updates? What did the vet say?
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:56 PM   #13
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Hopefully he's busy treating a small issue! Not sure about his setup, or the size of the calf, but we had a time giving ours his shots. Our calf was kinda pushed off on us, and all the equipment I use for the goats is useless for a cow.

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It's been a fiasco this morning. Low tire on the stock trailer. In between hookingbup the trailer and backing it up we lost power at the house. Finally came on aired the tire and she's at the vet now.
I'm texting back and forth with jamie about her as we speak
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:19 PM   #15
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Spoke with her long enough to know that she doesn't have parasites (she meaning the calf) but that she is younger than we were told then she had to go because the vet was coming back. I'll get the rest of the story shortly
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:04 PM   #17
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Spoke with her long enough to know that she doesn't have parasites (she meaning the calf) but that she is younger than we were told then she had to go because the vet was coming back. I'll get the rest of the story shortly
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:26 PM   #18
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First off thanks for everyone's help.

The vet said we were doing everything right and to stay on that track except for a couple of tweeks.
He had a different antibiotic he wanted her on and then banamine tomorrow so she gets up and moving.
He said she should have been on her mother longer and that she was real young and they stress easy at that young age. He also said he had an infection and that's the reason for the blood in the stool but the earlier diarrhea didn't help matters.
He said with it all coupled together it's too much for a young one to battle for food.
He was happy to see here alert and paying attention to her surroundings and chewing her cud which he said was all good signs.

She stays down a lot but when she's up she gets after the food pretty good.

She also was clear of parasites so good news there.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:28 PM   #19
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:32 PM   #20
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Great news! Sounds like the same thing my calf had. Only took him a couple days to bounce back with his activity anda couple weeks to put his weight back on. I started him back slowly on food, and gradually increased it back over a couple weeks. Hopefully she'll make a full recovery.

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Sounds like you got it under control
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That manure looks like blood in it, possibly coccidiosis
Prob should visit a veterinarian pretty quick
First thing I thought.
No specific diagnosis from the doc?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:32 PM   #23
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Coccidiosis was just about what I had narrowed mine down to using the Google vet. Everything said coccidiosis. Vet said ours was an infection causing the diarrhea. Ours also had traces of blood. That's the reason I didn't say the "C" word, I didn't want him stressing like I was. Google had me convinced I was probably gonna loose my calf, or go broke saving him.

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Coccidiosis was just about what I had narrowed mine down to using the Google vet. Everything said coccidiosis. Vet said ours was an infection causing the diarrhea. Ours also had traces of blood. That's the reason I didn't say the "C" word, I didn't want him stressing like I was. Google had me convinced I was probably gonna loose my calf, or go broke saving him.

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I looked up stuff on google and it was like web md for cows. She had everything!!!
Pretty sure I finally diagnosed it from the web as bovine hepcebolahiv virus, jeez it did more bad than good looking at that.
She up moving better tonight and hitting the creep feed good.
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First thing I thought.
No specific diagnosis from the doc?


Not really a specific, just and infection and he assumed by the green nose a respiratory infection. He said that was common in young calves when they have been moved
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I think I would hit her with some probias a week or so after you're done giving the shots.

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How's it doing​? Is it up and walking? Are the joints swollen?
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:20 AM   #28
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How's it doing​? Is it up and walking? Are the joints swollen?
No swollen joints and when she gets up shes up for a while. She does struggle getting up because shes weak though. She's not too weak to give you a little head butt and try to push you if you handle her too much. That attitude we see will get her a run to the sale when she bigger cause we can't have that around the kids but at this point I'm thinking it's because of the handling so it's tolerated. (actually good to see given her condition)
Although last night when we fed the others she got up pretty quick.

I'm hoping today is the day we see the big turn
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:15 PM   #29
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She's not so easy that move today, she kind of doing what she wants and trotting away from me. So those are good signs she's getting her strength back.
Eating good too
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Well, good.
I worked on a ranch right out of high school, and we had about a 300-pound calf get down sick with coccidiosis. She was severely dehydrated and wouldn't eat. Her joints got where they were stiff and her front legs wouldn't straighten out. Me and another fellow more or less did intensive care and physical therapy on her until she was back up standing and eating & drinking on her own. The ranch manager gave her to us so we took her to the auction barn and split the check on her.
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