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Old 05-02-2018, 11:34 AM   #1
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My index finger is gettin pinched...and it hurts. I tried for about a year or more to work split fingered. Someone at my first TBoT shoot made mention of finger pinch with my 29”ish draw on a 60” recurve. I didnt give much thought to it then...but it has manifested. By the time I got nocking point set...for horizontal paper tuning tears...the pinch on my index became chronic/continual/constant. I dropped the middle finger for a Flemish Loose and it didnt help.

I shot 3 under for a year or so before giving split finger some string time. Ive gone back and Im grouping decently.

I think Ive given split finger a valiant effort. Maybe in the future if and when I get a longer bow...Ill give split finger another go.

Im always game for suggestions if yall have’m.

God bless! Have a great day.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:46 AM   #2
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Finding what works best for you is key.

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Old 05-02-2018, 11:49 AM   #3
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I switched from split to 3-under, maybe, a year ago after watching some Rick Welch videos. Basically, you're reducing by half the chance to mess up the arrow flight from finger contact. Only took a couple of days for brain to make the elevation adjustment. Haven't looked back.
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:07 PM   #4
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I feel completely out of control shooting three under.
I can't get a clean release.

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Old 05-02-2018, 12:08 PM   #5
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When I first started with a trad bow I shot split for the first 9 months or so. After a particularly bad slump I decided to switch to 3 under and see if I liked it. After a few days of adjustment I shot better than I ever had. I think hand size/head size/facial geometry may have something to do with which works best. The only downside that I have noticed is that 3 under can make for a louder shot with some bows. I draw with 3 then drop my ring finger off the string at anchor. It's hard to say one is superior to the other - I am regularly out-shot by guys using both styles.

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Old 05-02-2018, 01:03 PM   #6
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If a bow isn't marked how do you tell how its tillered?

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Old 05-02-2018, 01:11 PM   #7
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Split finger does offer a couple more opportunities to do something wrong, and is very sensitive to whether you have the back of your hand in alignment with the string.
If your elbow is high or you hand is twisted some it can really cause grief with the index finger. Sometimes you can do everything right and a short bow will still pinch.
I use a finger spacer tab and have gone to shooting 66" or 68" bows, and don't cant much, if at all. No problems with finger pinch.
Now, years ago the inside cuticle on my index finger would get real sore from the abuse it was getting as a result of my poor form and short bows.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:52 PM   #8
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Shot split for years and tried 3 under and was almost immediately more consistent with better arrow flight.

I’ll just a better shooter that way. I WISH I was better split than 3 under because it “feels better,” but sometimes you have to let the bow and arrow be the guide.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:05 PM   #9
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I can’t do the three under. It feels so weird that I won’t make it through a quiver before switching back. To me, my bows sound like a shotgun going off when I try three under.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:51 PM   #10
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If a bow isn't marked how do you tell how its tillered?

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Get your bow square out and measure the tiller!!!!

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Old 05-02-2018, 06:06 PM   #11
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Get your bow square out and measure the tiller!!!!

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I went to the doctor today. I told him it hurts when I raise my arm like this.
He said then don't raise you're arm like that.
Thanks Bisch. Guess I'll Google it.

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Old 05-02-2018, 06:19 PM   #12
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You might want to watch this. It is really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKdUfBFu8dA
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:57 PM   #13
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I like how quiet split finger is for hunting. Ive tried split and I am horrible at it so I stayed 3 under. I shoot a longer bow 62 rec and 64 to 66 LB .The shorter bows bother my bottom finger say 60” or less. For hunting I don’t notice it on short bow cause it’s really a shot or two and for target shooting it will start to slowly hurt after awhile because of volume shots. I am guessing you have same problem but on a different finger due to different finger position.
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Old 05-03-2018, 11:34 AM   #14
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You might want to watch this. It is really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKdUfBFu8dA
Gracias Paisano. Alot of good form info in the video.

My 1954 Bear Polar longbow is gonna get some split action when the time comes.
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:09 PM   #15
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I went to the doctor today. I told him it hurts when I raise my arm like this.
He said then don't raise you're arm like that.
Thanks Bisch. Guess I'll Google it.

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On a one piece bow, measure from the end of the fade out to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

On a 3pc bow, measure from the end of the riser to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

For 3-Under tillering, the two measurements should be the same.

For split finger tillering, the measurement on the top limb should be 1/8"-1/4" more than the measurement on the bottom limb.

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Old 05-03-2018, 04:01 PM   #16
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:24 PM   #17
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On a one piece bow, measure from the end of the fade out to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

On a 3pc bow, measure from the end of the riser to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

For 3-Under tillering, the two measurements should be the same.

For split finger tillering, the measurement on the top limb should be 1/8"-1/4" more than the measurement on the bottom limb.

Bisch
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:45 PM   #18
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On a one piece bow, measure from the end of the fade out to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

On a 3pc bow, measure from the end of the riser to the string on both upper and lower limbs.

For 3-Under tillering, the two measurements should be the same.

For split finger tillering, the measurement on the top limb should be 1/8"-1/4" more than the measurement on the bottom limb.

Bisch
This gives me warms and fuzzys for my split finger endeavor on my ““Chesty” Polar”. Oorah.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:10 PM   #19
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I can shoot either split , 3 under , 2 under . But I really like 3 under and I dont gap shoot untill 15 yards plus and really have great results . 3 under keeps your index finger from messing up the shot.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:18 PM   #20
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I've been shooting split since about 1959, including the 10 or so years I shot a compound. I've won a few tournaments, and shot a few nice critters. I see no need to change.
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Old 05-05-2018, 07:39 PM   #21
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Hey Byron! Before you abandon split, try dropping your index finger off the string, and just lay it along the arrow shaft before starting your draw. It's like a modified 2 under. That's how I shoot (learned it from Dan Toelke). It eliminates the pinch on your index finger, while keeping the quieter release of split.
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