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Old 01-16-2018, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Best Rifle for Nilgai, Elk, Aoudad, & Oryx

What caliber rifle would you build specifically for Nilgai, Elk, Aoudad, & Gemsbok (aka "Oryx" in New Mexico)?
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:49 PM   #2
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:11 PM   #3
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:12 PM   #4
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:18 PM   #5
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May be a little much....6.5 Creedmoor

7mm or 300 win mag
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:19 PM   #6
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300 WBY MAG with 180 gr Nosler Accubonds.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:21 PM   #7
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:22 PM   #8
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I like my 7mm, has taken Aoudad and elk without any problems.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:24 PM   #9
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How does the 300 Win Mag kick compared to a .308?
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:30 PM   #10
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Grow up and play with the big boys....

.300 RUM

With my suppressor it is about the same as a .308.

Without........It will leave bruises and make you second guess the rifle. .300 Winny.....a little less than that.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:42 PM   #11
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Took my nilgai bull with a 7 mag 139 grain bullet. Quartering away at 350 yards. Ran about 75 yards
Hunting partner shot his with a 270 quartering away at about 200. Ran about 50 yards.

With this being said if you plan on hunting than and picking your shots and being patient you can get by with any average rifle
If your gonna be riding in a truck after them and chunking lead then bigger is better
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:43 PM   #12
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Grow up and play with the big boys....

.300 RUM

With my suppressor it is about the same as a .308.

Without........It will leave bruises and make you second guess the rifle. .300 Winny.....a little less than that.
.300 RUM or .30-.378 are great rounds. .375 H&H (Ruger etc) is a good choice as well (but obviously not as flat for longer shots). I know, others shoot a .22 Hornet and they are just as dead . . .
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:47 PM   #13
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300 Win Mag since nobody mentioned it.... lol

338 Win Mag actually would be my choice
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:47 PM   #14
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300 mag of your liking with 180gr or better in a premium bullet of your choice. 200gr Nosler Partitions would be my choice.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:48 PM   #15
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:53 PM   #16
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Grow up and play with the big boys....
I can tell you from experience that after a certain amount of growing up those bruises start taking longer and longer to heal.

300 win mag
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:58 PM   #17
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From the posts I've read in the past, a .600 Nitro Express for the first stage, then the .458 Lott takes over............
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:00 PM   #18
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:44 PM   #19
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My 30-378 Weatherby only let my 700lb bull take 10 steps!

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Old 01-16-2018, 04:51 PM   #20
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:57 PM   #21
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I'm partial to the 35 Whelen with a 225 grain nosler partion
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:00 PM   #22
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I'll say 338 win mag just because I want one for the heck of it. Honestly a hot rod 6.5 and up will be plenty but I know some outfitters put a minimum on Nilgai hunts. Lots of that is poor shots from people not understanding the vitals. A 270wsm would be right in there perfect if there were no mandated minimums IMO.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:00 PM   #23
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:01 PM   #24
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300 Win mag is boring so I say 7mm mag, 28 Nos or 338 win mag
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:05 PM   #25
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I can tell you from experience that after a certain amount of growing up those bruises start taking longer and longer to heal.

300 win mag
Win mags leave bruises as well.......
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:06 PM   #26
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:10 PM   #27
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.280ai or a .28 nosler


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Old 01-16-2018, 05:39 PM   #28
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lol
Why not be a big man, grow a pair, get some hair on your chest, and use a .50 cal?
A 7mm-08 will take any of those animals easily out to 300 or better... and be fun to shoot so you can practice without beating the crap out of yourself.
28 Nosler is a hot 7mm if you like big mags and doesn't kick too bad with a long barrel and a radial brake.
There's a reason the used rifle section at Cabela's is packed with big mags with less than a box through them.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:56 PM   #29
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The best??? The best at what?

Hate to pop your bubble but there isn't any best.

You can chamber a rifle in 35 different calibers and each one would work just fine if you put the bullet in the vitals.

You might want to choose some parameters and go from there instead of making a blanket choice of "best".
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:16 PM   #30
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:24 PM   #31
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I had a 30-06 re-barreled to 35 whelen mainly for Nilgai and bear. 225 gr Nosler Accubond at 2700+ fps should really put the smack down. 200 gr Federal Fusion sure put deer down quick with behind the shoulder shots. 300 win with 180-200 gr bonded bullets should work great also!
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:24 PM   #32
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8mm Remington Magnum or a .340 Weatherby. Those are bigger animals often shot at longer ranges. Use something that makes a big hole and carries the mail downrange.

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Old 01-16-2018, 06:27 PM   #33
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I have used a 300 RUM on all with good luck, have also used a 270 on elk, oryx and aoudad. All placement but I do prefer the larger big bore heavier bullet combo these days. I would start at 300 go up from there. Good luck.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:58 PM   #34
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People routinely kill these animals with archery equipment, that being said anything from 243 win and up will work with a well placed shot. If I was having a rifle built it would be the new 6.5 PRC or 338 ruger compact magnum. The RCM was designed for medium to large north american game.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:33 PM   #35
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I'll say 338 win mag just because I want one for the heck of it. Honestly a hot rod 6.5 and up will be plenty but I know some outfitters put a minimum on Nilgai hunts. Lots of that is poor shots from people not understanding the vitals. A 270wsm would be right in there perfect if there were no mandated minimums IMO.


Agreed. Not sure why but I have wanted a .338 win mag or .375 h&h for several years now. Model 70 super grade in either of the above would be the perfect big game thumper and look good while doing it.


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Old 01-16-2018, 08:40 PM   #36
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The best??? The best at what?

Hate to pop your bubble but there isn't any best.

You can chamber a rifle in 35 different calibers and each one would work just fine if you put the bullet in the vitals.

You might want to choose some parameters and go from there instead of making a blanket choice of "best".
This speaks volumes... In order to correctly answer your question, your question has to have more information to go along with it. Your personal experiences and preferences to begin with, and if you hand load or not, how sensitive you are to recoil, whether you use a brake or suppressor, how far you are capable of shooting accurately... man the list just goes on. It doesn't really take a special or even a magnum rifle to take these animals, and there's a good chance that you may have plenty of rifle for the job. If you are wanting to build a rifle however, you may want to think about what possibilities it could be used for in the future. The choices are many.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:11 PM   #37
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I typically like simple.. I say 7mm
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:19 PM   #38
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I know it is an unheard of, fairly hard to find caliber, but I would try a 30/06
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:29 PM   #39
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I am a big Weatherby fan, so my vote would be the .30-378 WBY w/ a 180 grain Barnes.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:36 PM   #40
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338 WM or 340 WBY. That way, when you decide to expand your horizons to moose and grizzly bear, you have a great gun for that as well.

My 338 WM is my favorite gun to take out of the safe. Shooting 225 grain bullets at 3050 FPS, it will kill anything in NA, and quick! I like it so much, I took it to Alberta as my primary gun for a whitetail hunt.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:50 PM   #41
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338 WM or 340 WBY. That way, when you decide to expand your horizons to moose and grizzly bear, you have a great gun for that as well.

My 338 WM is my favorite gun to take out of the safe. Shooting 225 grain bullets at 3050 FPS, it will kill anything in NA, and quick! I like it so much, I took it to Alberta as my primary gun for a whitetail hunt.
How are you getting a 338WM to greater speeds than a 340WBY?
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:50 PM   #42
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I watched a ~550lb nilgai bull die in 25yds shot with a .264 Win Mag. I shot my nilgai bull (about 435lb) with a .300Wby 180gr. and he went 4 feet...all sticking straight up in the air. My buddy shot his (closer to 600lb) with it also and dropped him too.

I shot my aoudad with my .264 mag, and he got 40yds closer before he quit rolling.


I think the 7mm Weatherby Mag is super impressive for your purpose, .28 Nosler would be cool too.....but I'd hunt them all with the .264 Mag. 280AI if you reload...
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:35 AM   #43
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Use what your comfortable with ...within reason of course...they are animals not freight trains..no matter how tough someone will say they are.
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:42 AM   #44
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Just to throw another option in the pile, I bought a Kimber Montana chambered in .338 Federal for similar purposes. This combo topped with a Leupold 2.5-8 scope weighs in around 6 pounds. We stalked Nilgai last January for a couple of miles and it was a joy to carry. One shot dropped my bull in his tracks.

There were not a lot of rifles chambering the .338 Federal when I put mine together about 10 years ago. The stock design of the Kimber tames the recoil really well so even shooting it off the bench is not a punishment.

I acknowledge that it is not a super long range round, but stalking in to 300 yards or less is a lot of the fun of a hunt.

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I'm a big 7 Mag fan, both RSAUM and 7mm RM. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt any of those animals with the 7 MM. However, if I wanted a new gun for chasing those critters I'd get a .338 Win mag. and shoot 200 gr. Accubonds, Partitions or Barnes TTSX.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:07 AM   #46
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How are you getting a 338WM to greater speeds than a 340WBY?
apologies, I fat fingered the bullet weight. That is my load with 210 grain partitions in-front of 76.5 grains of RL19 with a tight custom barrel.

My 225 grain handloads shoot in the 2900 FPS range.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:45 AM   #47
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I shot a few aoudad with my 25-06....with 117 grain and no issues. last one was at 350 yards, bullet hit and he locked up and stumbled twice and then down the "mountain" he went. As said up above, these arent freight trains youre trying to kill. They are larger/more dense than whitetails but I would focus on shot placement moreso than hole size. Im not a fan of a 30-06 (says the person who loves his 25-06, i know) just because its not a real efficient case design but a person would be lying if they said that its not a round that can do all of north america just fine.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:48 AM   #48
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Why not be a big man, grow a pair, get some hair on your chest, and use a .50 cal?
A 7mm-08 will take any of those animals easily out to 300 or better... and be fun to shoot so you can practice without beating the crap out of yourself.
28 Nosler is a hot 7mm if you like big mags and doesn't kick too bad with a long barrel and a radial brake.
There's a reason the used rifle section at Cabela's is packed with big mags with less than a box through them.
have you ever shot a elk, nilgai or Aoudad? I own two 7mm-08's and I wouldn't want them on a aoudad or a elk hunt, dang sure not a nilgai.


I recently went looking to build a rifle for almost the exact same purpose, take away nilgai and oryx and add mountain goat/moose


I settled on a weatherby mark V ultralight in .300 Win mag. better bullet selection, options, availability over the .300 wby mag.

I've killed a few aoudad in del rio and a elk in Colorado with a .257 wby mag. the sheep and the elk take multiple hits ( avg 2 per animal ). its hard to get perfect shot placement every time with real life field conditions and it helps to have a little extra bullet. i'm finding this out after shooting the .257 wby exclusively for 4 years now.


I've seen aoudad soak up shots from .300's and 7mm's and run a long way. also seen them killed with .22-250's and lost with other smaller calibers. they are tough suckers and if they run can get into places that make them unrecoverable.


familiar in the field with but never killed an oryx or nilgai but they are very stoutly built animals.

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Since he has included nilgai in the mix, remember that many nilgai outfitters either have a minimum of .300 Magnum or recommend a minimum of .300 Magnum. These guys see a lot of nilgai killed and have a reason for their recommendations.
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Just to throw another option in the pile, I bought a Kimber Montana chambered in .338 Federal for similar purposes. This combo topped with a Leupold 2.5-8 scope weighs in around 6 pounds. We stalked Nilgai last January for a couple of miles and it was a joy to carry. One shot dropped my bull in his tracks.

There were not a lot of rifles chambering the .338 Federal when I put mine together about 10 years ago. The stock design of the Kimber tames the recoil really well so even shooting it off the bench is not a punishment.

I acknowledge that it is not a super long range round, but stalking in to 300 yards or less is a lot of the fun of a hunt.

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The 338 Federal is a good option and not gonna slam you every trigger pull.

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