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Old 12-02-2016, 08:48 AM   #1
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Looking for a low mileage 6.7.
Looked at revisions on years and it looks like in 2013 they went with bigger brakes.
Then in 2015 they went with a larger turbo, increasing from 400hp to 440hp and supposedly a little better mpg.

Can anyone tell me if you can really tell a difference in the 2015 upgrade or save a little cash and get a 2013?
I can afford a 2013 Lariat or a 2015+ XLT model. Doesn't really matter much to me though, as I am not a big fan of leather seats as long as it has adjustable lumbar support.

Also are there any other year revisions that I am not aware of?

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Old 12-02-2016, 09:04 AM   #2
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The 2015 and up also have the better exhaust brake.
Injectors are bigger as well.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:07 AM   #3
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Yes there is a noticeable difference in the 2015 Turbo and since I actually pull 12.5K the exhaust brake that was introduced in '15...
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:19 AM   #4
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I had a 12' and loved it now i have a 16' and its great my 16' runs just a little warmer pulling my 5th wheel than id like but other than that no complaints. I'm on my 4th ford diesel and haven't regretted any of them ever. The added exhaust brake on the 16' is nice especially when pulling a big load.
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I've always heard the exhaust brake kicks a. It's on my Ram I just haven't used it yet.

When it comes to MPGs, everyone I talked to that owns super duty trucks says the same thing. You're going to get around 16 unloaded and around 10 with a load. Obviously that's generic numbers, might do a little better, or a little worse.

They're some nice trucks for sure. If I was you I'd get the 15 or 16. Warranty, and you know what's been done to it. That's worth a lot in my opinion.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:29 AM   #6
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In for this one. I'm currently looking at a 14 F-250 and will take all the information I can get!
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:31 AM   #7
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My two cents, both engines have so much power, you will barely notice a difference. These new motors now adays put out as much power as some semi trucks. Brakes wise, I have a '12, pulling more than 15k with no engine brake, and have never had the pedal get squishy. Never had the truck get hot either, and I pulled that weight from Amarillo to Wisconsin routinely.

Personally, I would go for the '16 because you can probably find an awesome deal with dealers trying to get rid of the old body style.

As far as MPG, its a 3/4 ton. It gets what it gets. I can't imagine its a deal breaker, just fuel tank size could be an issue.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:52 AM   #8
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I had an 04 Ram 5.9 for many years. So this won't be my first diesel.

So did the engine brake come out in 15 or16.
Looking for a used one with about a $40k budget.
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:25 PM   #9
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Just got new 16 xlt last night, traded in '13 xl. Taking trip to ranch in Mountain home right now. Averaging about 2.5 mpg better. 17.7mpg now
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:26 PM   #10
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Just saw post about budget this new 16 xlt was 42.5k
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I have a 13 lariat 4x4 I am about to sell, grey with 53,000 miles on it!
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Old 12-02-2016, 01:24 PM   #12
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So did the engine brake come out in 15 or16.

The older 6.7s had an exhaust brake as well, but it doesn't work as well as the 2015 and up do.
There isn't any difference between the 15 & 16 models.
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Just saw post about budget this new 16 xlt was 42.5k
That's a pretty good price. Cc 4x4?

Did they get you for your trade in?
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:00 PM   #14
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Yep CC 4x4. Normal xlt options. Trade they did me right. It was XL so it will go auction. They wont make any money on it.
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Right now the are making good deals on the 16's due to the new body style of the 17's. Especially if you want an XLT version.

For the money they are a far better deal than what the market is for used trucks.

The difference between a 12 and 16 is significant.

Be open minded about a new 16
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15 does have bigger injectors & turbo and the exhaust brake works wonderful with large loads.

a 15 will NOT get the mileage that the 13's & 14's got.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:41 PM   #17
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15 does have bigger injectors & turbo and the exhaust brake works wonderful with large loads.

a 15 will NOT get the mileage that the 13's & 14's got.
Are you saying it is worse?
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:43 PM   #18
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Just saw post about budget this new 16 xlt was 42.5k
Did that have any additions, like the FX4 package or a power seat?
Also what dealership?
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:56 PM   #19
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Are you saying it is worse?
Very little difference. Less than a mile per gallon difference.
Its worth it to me for 40 extra horsepower.
My 16 averages 16 mpg empty city driving.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:58 PM   #20
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I've got a '12 King Ranch 4x4 and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

I'm keeping it until the wheels fall off.
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Old 12-02-2016, 03:04 PM   #21
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I get anywhere from 9 to 14 mpg on my 16. It has two thousand miles on it and it's a big giant pos.
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Old 12-02-2016, 04:26 PM   #22
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I have a 15 250 4x. I get 14.7-15 on highway and town and 14.5 while pulling 9500pd RV. Pulls so much better than my 14 dodge did and much better mileage. Only draw back is the stupid 22 gal tank.
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my '16 avgs 15.5 everyday driving, putting about 33 miles round trip to and from work...love my truck...
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I have a 15 250 4x. I get 14.7-15 on highway and town and 14.5 while pulling 9500pd RV. Pulls so much better than my 14 dodge did and much better mileage. Only draw back is the stupid 22 gal tank.
Actually it's a 26 for the short bed, but I agree I wish it was larger.
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I actually like the smaller fuel tanks, lets me stop for snacks more often.
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Are you saying it is worse?
In my 2015 4wd crew I get 2-3 mpg better mileage on Highway trips than my buddy's 2012 and 2013. Might be driving style, I don't know know? Besides, MPG'S should only be a concern when comparing diesel to diesel manufacturers. If you're concerned from an economic aspect, buy a diesel half ton dodge and be limited to ~ 9K lbs towing.
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Just traded my 2014 f350 for a 2017. You don't notice a huge power difference but the truck is bigger so it handles the weight better. I'd get the most truck I can afford with the least miles.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:54 AM   #28
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Also, keep in mind financing rates. A $43K new 2016 at 2.9% vs. A $38K 2013 at 6.9% is significant (if you take the full term to pay off).
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:37 PM   #29
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Found one today and signed the papers.
2016 XLT, Texas value package, FX4 package, camper package, 4x4, crew cab.
$56k MSRP, with 2008 Tundra trade in, out the door for $32459.
I'm happy with that and pick it up Monday.
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How often do you you need to refill the DEF and how much does it hold?
I read some good reviews of Supertech at Walmart for $7.99.
Anyone else use it?
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How often do you you need to refill the DEF and how much does it hold?
I read some good reviews of Supertech at Walmart for $7.99.
Anyone else use it?


Every couple thousand miles. Holds about 3gal I think. I fill DEF at the truck stop so I don't have to mess with jugs etc
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How often do you you need to refill the DEF and how much does it hold?
I read some good reviews of Supertech at Walmart for $7.99.
Anyone else use it?
DEF is a non-issue and filling depends on driving style. More city, stop and go driving requires more DEF due to increased particulates not burning off the filter. When. You get the message "500 miles remaining DEF", you can put at least 4.5 gallons in. In the 28K miles of my truck, I've only added DEF maybe 5 times and have always used the jugs that Bucees sells.
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I do it at the truck stops too, it's on the pump island with the diesel.
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DEF is a non-issue and filling depends on driving style. More city, stop and go driving requires more DEF due to increased particulates not burning off the filter. When. You get the message "500 miles remaining DEF", you can put at least 4.5 gallons in. In the 28K miles of my truck, I've only added DEF maybe 5 times and have always used the jugs that Bucees sells.


4.5 gallons?? In a Ford at the 500 miles warning??

Just did the search, 5.2 gallons is total capacity. I have never been able to put more than 3 but I fill soon as the 500 mile warning comes on

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How often do you you need to refill the DEF and how much does it hold?
I read some good reviews of Supertech at Walmart for $7.99.
Anyone else use it?
My first tank of def lasted 1900 miles. Ford said that's not right and I should have gotten between 5-7k. It's supposed to go back to shop as some point.
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I fill my def with the 2 1/2 gallon jugs from bucees any time it shows less than half and have no problems.


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4.5 gallons?? In a Ford at the 500 miles warning??

Just did the search, 5.2 gallons is total capacity. I have never been able to put more than 3 but I fill soon as the 500 mile warning comes on
Yeah, I didn't know the exact capacity either. Had the 500 mile message come on mine on my way back from Mississippi last week, added 2.5 gallons from a truck stop and the message didn't go away, then added another 2 gallons from Bucees and it finally reset. I guess the tank has to get close to full before the message resets?
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My def warning comes on at 5-6000 miles. It's a 2015 f250
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I've heard bad things about using DEF from the pump... in regards to purity..
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I fill my def with the 2 1/2 gallon jugs from bucees any time it shows less than half and have no problems
How much is the DEF at Bucees?
Their brand?
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For the record... here is my log on DEF usage in my 2015 F350 dually


I refill mine at my first opportunity after seeing the less than 1/2 full warning... I did the same thing with my 2012 with close to the same results...

And for those interested... real world mileage log... you can clearly see when I'm towing or staying in town

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Super s brand and its about $6 for 2 1/2 gallons


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Picked it up yesterday.
Thanks for all the info!
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A couple of more questions....

My Ram 5.9 took almost 100k miles to break in and got a good increase in mileage.
What is considered a good break in mileage, for all the benefits?

Anyone running side rails on theirs? My "short" wife has a hard time getting in and my last rails saved my truck from door dings. Any good brands/style out there?

Now that I got this, I will be doing my own oil changes. Where do you take the used oil?
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I got a 15 and love it. Check Craigslist for factory take off nerf bars. They are everywhere and cheap. I just deleted and tuned mine. It's a different animal!
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:13 PM   #46
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A couple of more questions....

My Ram 5.9 took almost 100k miles to break in and got a good increase in mileage.
What is considered a good break in mileage, for all the benefits?

Anyone running side rails on theirs? My "short" wife has a hard time getting in and my last rails saved my truck from door dings. Any good brands/style out there?

Now that I got this, I will be doing my own oil changes. Where do you take the used oil?
Dumpster for the oil. Also, I would highly suggest doing fuel filters every oil change, especially if you delete. And fuel filters are a beast to change...I find something I am not doing correctly each time I do mine, and have done it myself for almost 60k miles.
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I got a 15 and love it. Check Craigslist for factory take off nerf bars. They are everywhere and cheap. I just deleted and tuned mine. It's a different animal!


Go after market for bars that go all the way to the rear wheels so you can access tool box.
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I plan to delete once I brake the 60k mile warranty.

Anyone have any idea on the break in?
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I plan to delete once I brake the 60k mile warranty.



Anyone have any idea on the break in?


My 15 saw some increase in mileage around 70-75K
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