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Old 10-21-2020, 09:33 PM   #1
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https://youtu.be/MjMhZKmHKGk. So what do you all think this beast will be going for ?
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:44 PM   #2
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:47 PM   #3
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Ooooooo Iím not even mad itís electric lol....


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Old 10-21-2020, 09:52 PM   #5
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Notice the headlights maybe General Motors can at least keep half of them working
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11,500 lb ft of torque??????
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0-60 in 3 sec. That is new corvette times. Think about that for a second.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:04 PM   #9
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https://youtu.be/MjMhZKmHKGk. So what do you all think this beast will be going for ?
$112,000 starting price

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Old 10-21-2020, 10:11 PM   #10
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My opinion, but its ugly. I'm sure it will grow on me though. The features though sounds great for sure. 1,000 hp, crabwalk what??? wow
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:15 PM   #11
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I love the features that they added to it. Absolutely brilliant. But itís not a truck for me unfortunately 1 price and 2 range. When I canít drive to my ranch and back without needing a charge.

Iím gonna laugh when we see every single one driving around with the ďescapeĒ mode on adding 6Ē lift


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Old 10-21-2020, 10:17 PM   #12
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I mean, I think it’s pretty cool looking, and I would get on the electric vehicle bandwagon if they weren’t so **** expensive. $112k really?
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625 h.p. and 7,400 lb ft of torque for 79k?
Would smoke any modern diesel for almost the same price.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:25 PM   #14
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625 h.p. and 7,400 lb ft of torque for 79k?
Would smoke any modern diesel for almost the same price.

Can we purchase an external battery pack that we can plug into like a lot of diesels have with the tank in the bed


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Hell of an idea! I would almost bet thatís a future option.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:41 PM   #16
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:59 PM   #17
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I watched the video so I could talk crap about it. But it looks pretty badA. Will be interested to see how they actually perform. A lot of stats are expected at this point. But I’m impressed
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:00 PM   #18
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350 mile range? How long to recharge to get to my lease 500 miles away?
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:04 PM   #19
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The 350 mile range is with a light foot. Lol. Quite a bit less if you take advantage of that 0-60 in 3 seconds everywhere you go.
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Surely that range drops pretty drastically when towing something pretty hefty right?
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:15 PM   #21
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Surely that range drops pretty drastically when towing something pretty hefty right?
From what I've read, the electric trucks are seeing range cut in about 1/2 when towing. A bit more if really heavy and a bit less if a lighter load.
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Old 10-22-2020, 06:45 AM   #22
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YUK...It may have the motor, torque and shiny things but to me it looks like a cross between the Toyota FJ Cruiser and the Honda Ridgeline. Also, being the Chinese own the Hummer brand.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:50 AM   #23
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Well other than being fugly, its bad asz.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:05 AM   #25
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I tried to order one but couldn't get a cigarette lighter installed (that's a deal breaker for me) so I'm going pass on it.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:07 AM   #26
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They start at 80k
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:08 AM   #27
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Looks like an aborted avalanche.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:37 AM   #28
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Who was narrating the first part of the video, LeBron? Them electric vehicles are sure quick off of the line.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:59 AM   #29
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Who was narrating the first part of the video, LeBron? Them electric vehicles are sure quick off of the line.
I was thinking Will Smith, but I believe you are correct.
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Old 10-22-2020, 09:18 AM   #30
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YUK...It may have the motor, torque and shiny things but to me it looks like a cross between the Toyota FJ Cruiser and the Honda Ridgeline. Also, being the Chinese own the Hummer brand.
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I tried to order one but couldn't get a cigarette lighter installed (that's a deal breaker for me) so I'm going pass on it.
Wonder how the old school push in cig lighter would effect battery range...
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Old 10-22-2020, 09:57 AM   #33
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Not going to lie, I'm not sure how anyone is bashing this thing. Outside of charging range this thing is BAD A**. But to be able to get over a 100 mile charge in 10 minutes isnt bad!
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:13 AM   #34
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Ugly as can be. I would never buy one, especially since something that heavy will be garbage off road. Not to mention the towing will suck. I don't care if it has 11,000 torque. It will pull like crap.

That said, I hope they sell millions of them. The money that could be dumped into R&D would make batteries even better so apes like me could actually afford them. In 10 years, there are going to be a ton more charging stations, and charge times will be on par with filling up a gas tank.

For those worried about charging. GM will have something similar to Tesla, where it will plot out your route, tell you where to stop for electricity, how long you need to be there, and when to leave. It's pretty clever. OR, they will figure out how to make interchangeable batteries, where you swap them at predetermined locations (Think battery stations instead of gas stations).
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:42 AM   #35
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Sweet..just put a generator in back with a remote start and now you have unlimited range on 1.5 gallons of gas.
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:03 AM   #36
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How long do the batteries last and how much to replace them?
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:10 AM   #37
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The truck manufacturers need to start somewhere so 10-15 years from now we will look back on it and wonder. I'll keep my diesel for that period.
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Replacing the average golf cart batteries is 7-800 bucks. These batteries have to be way more expensive.

What are the batteries for these things going to do to the environment. Think about the production and waste for those things. How does that work?

How high does your electricity bill go if your charging at home? My summertime Electric bill is already ridiculous.

My v8 is paid off. I'll just stick with it.
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:16 AM   #39
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What are the batteries for these things going to do to the environment. Think about the production and waste for those things. How does that work?
That statement is worth thinking about. Just because it does not use a fossil fuel directly, what kind of electric source does it come from?
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:48 AM   #40
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Features and specs are incredible!

Lots of other questions/unknowns. Probably not the best thing for country folks. Not exactly charging stations everywhere just yet!
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:48 AM   #41
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Pretty cool. The range is the only sucky part. Far out of my price range.
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Old 10-22-2020, 02:20 PM   #42
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I want one. You only go around once.
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Ugly as can be. I would never buy one, especially since something that heavy will be garbage off road. Not to mention the towing will suck. I don't care if it has 11,000 torque. It will pull like crap.

That said, I hope they sell millions of them. The money that could be dumped into R&D would make batteries even better so apes like me could actually afford them. In 10 years, there are going to be a ton more charging stations, and charge times will be on par with filling up a gas tank.

For those worried about charging. GM will have something similar to Tesla, where it will plot out your route, tell you where to stop for electricity, how long you need to be there, and when to leave. It's pretty clever. OR, they will figure out how to make interchangeable batteries, where you swap them at predetermined locations (Think battery stations instead of gas stations).

I have read this is a pipe dream. The investment (fleet of batteries) a gas station would have to make would be so high a swap would cost 2X as much as a tank of gas would cost. The bigger issue is people swapping out batteries with 1/2 of their life left for newer ones never really needing to buy a new one.

Tesla expected/projected the private sector would "create" these scenarios like you have described and hardly any of it has happened yet and Teslas have been out for awhile.

No automaker that develops a battery that lasts longer/more efficient than the competition will be willing to share their technology to help them out so an interchangeable battery will never happen.

That being said let's see where we will be in ten years.
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Diesel will walk the floor when pulling a load period!! You might kick the diesels butt in the start but when you stop to recharge for 6 plus hours the diesel will be long gone.
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Replacing the average golf cart batteries is 7-800 bucks. These batteries have to be way more expensive.

What are the batteries for these things going to do to the environment. Think about the production and waste for those things. How does that work?

How high does your electricity bill go if your charging at home? My summertime Electric bill is already ridiculous.

My v8 is paid off. I'll just stick with it.
It's a good point. I spend $40/week on gas, and put away $52/month on maintenance (Oil changes/Fuel Filters). That's $250 a month, between fuel and basic maintenance on a fossil burning car. I don't spend even half that on my electric bill in the summer.

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I have read this is a pipe dream. The investment (fleet of batteries) a gas station would have to make would be so high a swap would cost 2X as much as a tank of gas would cost. The bigger issue is people swapping out batteries with 1/2 of their life left for newer ones never really needing to buy a new one.

Tesla expected/projected the private sector would "create" these scenarios like you have described and hardly any of it has happened yet and Teslas have been out for awhile.

No automaker that develops a battery that lasts longer/more efficient than the competition will be willing to share their technology to help them out so an interchangeable battery will never happen.

That being said let's see where we will be in ten years.
Agreed, and the problem is there just isn't enough electric cars to invest in "battery stations". Of all the car's on the roads, Tesla/electric cars make up ~1%. Wait until 25% of cars are electric. Then you will see battery stations.

For the time being, I will stick with my diesel truck. But I am excited for the future.
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0-60 in 3 sec. That is new corvette times. Think about that for a second.
Imagine what an AWD 1000+HP vette will be like...I'm a traditional roaring V8 buy but electric torque at all 4 corners is legit.

Question I have is how exactly are electrics going to get taxed in tx like gas to support roads / infrastructure as they get more popular.
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Check out the Rivian R1T. It's better looking... That said, current electric car batteries are running north of $150/kWh. This has a 200kWh battery so it is a $35K battery...

I drive an electric with a range extender (read: gas motor). I go about 60 miles on electric driving like a worried grandma. I go about 35 miles driving like Andretti. Normal, everyday, I go about 4.5 miles/kWh. So... if the truck had the same, uh, kinetics, I'd go 200*4.5 or 900 miles on a charge. Since this weighs a bit more than twice my car, it goes 400. In other words, the math is pretty easy to estimate. Figure towing a 7000lb load will probably cut range in half to 200 miles. If you tow the max, maybe 150.

And... note that at least 80% of electricity is still produced from fossil fuels. Driving an electric car just pushes the emissions from your tail pipe to the smokestack at the generation plant. You aren't really doing as much as you think "for the environment". At least not yet, anways.

It is also a fallacy that driving electric is super cheap. First, the cars aren't cheap. So, factor that in. Calculating cost to charge is pretty easy. Assume you buy this truck and you drive and tow moderately. Assume a 350 mile range per charge with one minor tow per "tankful". A 200kWh battery will take about 240kWh of electricity with 20% losses in the process. My electricity is right at 10 cents per kWh so it would cost me about $24 to fill the tank to go 350 miles. Compare to your truck getting, say 15mpg average with an occasional tow an it would cost you 350/15 or about 29 gallons of gas. Gas is current $1.80 where I live so that'd be $52.16 to fill up. So you save some but to recoup the huge difference in cost is still a ways off. Now... if we go back to $4 a gallon gas, that changes things.

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Imagine what an AWD 1000+HP vette will be like...I'm a traditional roaring V8 buy but electric torque at all 4 corners is legit.

Question I have is how exactly are electrics going to get taxed in tx like gas to support roads / infrastructure as they get more popular.
They'll tax you on the mileage you drive at registration time.
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They'll tax you on the mileage you drive at registration time.
Or just the electricity rates. Your electric bill will grow by the kWh.
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