I’m thinking about ordering me a model 700 muzzleloader. Does anybody have experience with these that can give me some pros and cons?
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I haven't seen the 'ultimate' in person but if its anything like the 700 ML my dad has...mehhh
It shoots good BUT its a large PIA to clean in a world of cleaning necessity.
1- pain to get the cap/primer onto the nipple. Dads has been swapped out to use 209 primers. I see the ultimate loads using cut off cases so that may not be an issue. My 78 yr old dad carries tweezers to load his.
2- must remove a screw on side of receiver to remove the bolt in order to insert a 7/16 deep socket to remove the nipple so you can run a patch down the barrel. Dumb
Remington says with this new case primer thing you can shoot 200 grains of powder. First...good grief!!! I shoot 100 grains and have killed deer plenty dead. Done it with as little as 75 also. Maybe for an elk hunt I guess but see no need in 200 grains
That said the videos online don't impress me much. I like the break open style of the TC and the newly acquired CVA I have. Much easier to manipulate IMO
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I had one of the first ones when they came out many many years ago. It failed to fire a lot. Then they came out with a 209 conversion kit for it that made it much more reliable. Pretty sure they are all that way now. I killed a few deer with it. One of my biggest ever actually. I shot it on steel out to 200yds. This was way back before I got into long range shooting. It was a very comfortable rifle to carry and shoot. Felt much better than the average smoke poles of that time.
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This is what I’ve got going on. My son is gonna be 14 next week. I’m needing to get him a muzzleloader to hunt mule deer with in the fall. I want to get one now so he can practice with it between now and then. Right now he has a couple model 700’s that he primarily hunts with that he’s used to. He also has a Thompson pro hunter with a couple barrels that he shoots sometimes. I’m trying to decide whether to get the Remington or a muzzleloader barrel for the encore. He’s probably gonna be looking at around 150 yd shot so distance and accuracy are important as always and it needs some knockdown power.
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Remington Ultimate muzzleloader is totally different from the old 700Ml. To load is the same, then the ignition is a large rifle primed casing. Totally sealed breech and not dirty at all. Rated for a significant amount of powder and 200-300 yard shots are now the norm. They are expensive ($899) and heavy. I think you would be better off to get a barrel for the TC, or get him a nice CVA Accura or Optima with Bergarra barrel. They are super accurate rifles, easy to clean, and the break action would be similar to what he is already familiar with.
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