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Old 04-19-2016, 05:25 PM   #1
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Exclamation Dog - Snake bite

Just got home, looks like my Weim got popped.

We have Copperheads and WM around here.

I have read some threads but forget what to give them.

She is acting fine just snout and neck swollen.

Advice please, thanks!
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:26 PM   #2
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Find benadryl. Someone will chime on here about the dosage but I know its benadryl. Hope they're okay!
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:26 PM   #3
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Benadryl is what a buddy of mine gives his dogs. He's never taken one to the vet to my knowledge.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:27 PM   #4
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Find benadryl. Someone will chime on here about the dosage but I know its benadryl. Hope they're okay!
I am assuming a liquid version?
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:27 PM   #5
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I am sure you have done so already, but if not, remove the collar.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:28 PM   #6
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Oooh good question. I always just assumed the pill version but I've never had a snakebit dog. My uncle gave his the pills in a weenie and she ate it after she was bitten. Where was yours hit?
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Benadryl is what a buddy of mine gives his dogs. He's never taken one to the vet to my knowledge.
Yeah I know they are tougher than us and not really wanting a big vet bill.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:29 PM   #8
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Oooh good question. I always just assumed the pill version but I've never had a snakebit dog. My uncle gave his the pills in a weenie and she ate it after she was bitten. Where was yours hit?
Near the mouth I am assuming her face is pretty big

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Old 04-19-2016, 05:30 PM   #9
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Take her to your vet
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:31 PM   #10
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Sorry to hear.

Vet bill is cheaper than a new pup.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:35 PM   #11
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Keep her calm and hydrated.
Give 2 mg/lb Diphenhydramine HCl (Benadryl) every 8-12 hours.
Typical tabs are 25mg, so if your dog weighs 50 lbs give her 100 mg or four tabs.
It's a good idea to check with your vet on the dosage just to make sure your dog doesn't have any other conditions that would lower the recommendation. Typical dosage for allergy-related stuff would be 1 mg/lb., but for a snake bite more is recommended.
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... Poor girl
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #13
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she's got a sweet face. if you can find the wound clean it well, but it'll be tough.
keep a close eye on her for signs of infection, that could be much worse than the bite.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #14
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Poor dog...

Take off her collar and take her to the vet ASAP. She'll most likely be ok
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:58 PM   #15
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Take her to the vet if you want too but when this happened to me and I called my vet she said to give my pup benedril
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:02 PM   #16
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Take her to the vet if you want too but when this happened to me and I called my vet she said to give my pup benedril
Exact same response from my vet. The swelling will probably be gone by morning.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:13 PM   #17
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Keep her calm and hydrated.
Give 2 mg/lb Diphenhydramine HCl (Benadryl) every 8-12 hours.
Typical tabs are 25mg, so if your dog weighs 50 lbs give her 100 mg or four tabs.
It's a good idea to check with your vet on the dosage just to make sure your dog doesn't have any other conditions that would lower the recommendation. Typical dosage for allergy-related stuff would be 1 mg/lb., but for a snake bite more is recommended.
^^^this^^^ dog will be ok and back to normal in a day or so. Mine get snake bit every year. I always keep antibiotics on hand in case of WM bite. They are worse than a Copperhead bite
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:18 PM   #18
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At Vet, they wanted to look her over.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:19 PM   #19
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^^^this^^^ dog will be ok and back to normal in a day or so. Mine get snake bit every year. I always keep antibiotics on hand in case of WM bite. They are worse than a Copperhead bite
I will be ready next time with anti biotics.
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A couple of years ago our Chocolate Lab got popped by a copper head right on the end of the nose, right in the pad area. He had 3 nose holes for a while. I was at the lease hunting at the time but the wife and daughters were home. Seems that he interjected himself between our youngest and the snake. They took him to the vet and she gave him two injections, one was Diphenhydramine. He was swollen and drooling all over the place for 2 days or so but nothing else. He's been right as rain ever since but he still does not like critters in his yard.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:23 PM   #21
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At Vet, they wanted to look her over.
Of course they did! $$$$$
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Take her to the vet if you want too but when this happened to me and I called my vet she said to give my pup benedril
Yeah a called very verify dose and they really just wanted to see her before they said anything. Can't blame them
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Of course they did! $$$$$
I know... Ugh didnt want to come but her swelling was getting pretty bad.
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:13 PM   #24
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Got all the meds she needs for the next 7 days. Vet bill was light on the wallet. Glad I went
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:19 PM   #25
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Cool deal. If you don't use all the meds save them. My beagle is 4 and been bit 3 or 4 times............Benedryl or nada...........but he is crazy anyway and probably immune to snakes!!!
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:21 PM   #26
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Cool deal. If you don't use all the meds save them. My beagle is 4 and been bit 3 or 4 times............Benedryl or nada...........but he is crazy anyway and probably immune to snakes!!!
Yeah next time it's just antibiotics and benedryl and a pat on the chest.
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:35 PM   #27
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Our silver lab loves to play with copperheads. Benadryl works great. First two times we rushed to the vet after hours. Not any more. They are some tough animals.
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:46 PM   #28
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Poor baby, kind of funny though....hope all is well for yours.
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:47 PM   #29
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Glad your dog is okay.
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Of course they did! $$$$$
It never ceases to amaze me how many people on here think that vets are just after the dollars. I promise you there are many more lucrative professions than veterinary medicine.

If the vet said, she will be fine take some Benadryl and that dog died, who do you think they would blame and potentially sue? Diagnostic abilities over the phone are very limited.
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We have five dogs and live next to a wet lands wildlife refuge and our dogs get tagged every year. The first time our lab got bit we took her to the vet and all the vet gave her was benadryl and three raw eggs so that's what we do everytime except for once when one got tagged on the foot by a timber rattler and had to have surgery to remove all the dead tissue. I'm not saying this is what you should do its just how we deal with it.
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people on here think that vets are just after the dollars. I promise you there are many more lucrative professions than veterinary medicine.

If the vet said, she will be fine take some Benadryl and that dog died, who do you think they would blame and potentially sue? Diagnostic abilities over the phone are very limited.
Our vet has been very trust worthy and didn't disappoint this go round. Was given all the meds I need and she was hit with a shot of benadryl and a blood test. All this for 147.00 they seem to care and that's why I went.

Like any profession, there are bad apples and I think that's why people are distrusting.
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we had a great dane pup who showed up one day with a swollen face not as bad as some of these but bad enough to alarm us could never find the bites so we didn't rule out wasp sting either way Benadryl is the way to go and good call on taking off the collar if theres any kind of open wound or sore you cant go wrong with vetracyn you can find it at tractor supply that stuff works on any animal and even people!
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I'm happy to pay for an antibiotic and penicillin shot at the vet. Got that and Benadryl for a couple days, dog was fine.
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I've already seen a timber rattler and killed a copper head. My wife has a fearless little 12lb yorkiepoo. She chases everything. Chased pigs out of our yard one night (glad she didn't corner one). Had a turkey by the leg the other day while it was trying to fly off. Chases deer coons possum etc. If its in our yard she's not too happy about it. I'm pretty worried that if she comes across that timber rattler I saw while mowing a few days ago I'm going to have distraught wife and daughter on my hands.
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I have had quite a few dogs get popped by either a copperhead or a cottonmouth. I just remove the collar and give them benadryl and some antiobiotics in case of any infection in the bite. The neck always seem to swell pretty bad but benadryl helps alot. They have always done just fine without a vet but they were all medium to large dogs...I'm not sure if it's coincidence or they build immunity but they seem to do better when bit a second or third time...

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She looks a million times better this morning. Gave her all her meds and she went right back to her bed wagging her tail.
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She looks a million times better this morning.

Gave her all her meds and she went right back to her bed wagging her tail.

Good Deal!
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Seen about every coon dog I ever had and that my dad ever had get bit at one time or another. Never had one to die. Seen my dad lance the swelling with a pocket knife to let it drain and they would be OK to go hunting again the next weekend. Never gave them any kind of medicine. Most were probably cottonmouth bites since they were usually trailing coons around water somewhere. Seemed like they always got hit on the face somewhere. Year before last my hunting buddy's Blue Heller got tagged on the muzzle by a rattler. She was OK within a week.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:32 AM   #39
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I should have grabbed my phone last night after her pain pills. It was a hoot. She was just high as a kite and not a care in the world. Just starring off in space and falling asleep.

I was glad she was comfortable!
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My Catahoula has been bit twice and Benadryl did the trick both times. I actually think it was bees/hornets that got her the last time. Head was very swollen. Worse than the snake bite.
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Feed them a stick of real butter. Don't know how it does it but the swelling will be gone in a day. Plus the dogs love it. My ex-wife read it somewhere and it works. Has to be real butter. Our lab used to get copperhead bit all the time. I think she would hunt them just to get the butter.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:54 AM   #42
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Feed them a stick of real butter. Don't know how it does it but the swelling will be gone in a day. Plus the dogs love it. My ex-wife read it somewhere and it works. Has to be real butter. Our lab used to get copperhead bit all the time. I think she would hunt them just to get the butter.
That is odd. Wonder what would help the dog that is in butter?
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Keep her calm and hydrated.
Give 2 mg/lb Diphenhydramine HCl (Benadryl) every 8-12 hours.
Typical tabs are 25mg, so if your dog weighs 50 lbs give her 100 mg or four tabs.
It's a good idea to check with your vet on the dosage just to make sure your dog doesn't have any other conditions that would lower the recommendation. Typical dosage for allergy-related stuff would be 1 mg/lb., but for a snake bite more is recommended.
This is exactly what my country vet told me to do when my Lacy got hit by a copperhead. It was afterhours and he said I was welcome to bring him in, but that's all they would do. As long as the dog was not in respiratory distress, I really didn't need to bring him in.

And, that Lacy had been de-snaked twice before, but only with rattlesnakes. He knew the difference.
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Glad your dog is better now.
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Feed them a stick of real butter. Don't know how it does it but the swelling will be gone in a day. Plus the dogs love it. My ex-wife read it somewhere and it works. Has to be real butter. Our lab used to get copperhead bit all the time. I think she would hunt them just to get the butter.
That's weird. Opposite affect for dogs.... Butter makes me swell in the midsection but I love it.
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Our vet has been very trust worthy and didn't disappoint this go round. Was given all the meds I need and she was hit with a shot of benadryl and a blood test. All this for 147.00 they seem to care and that's why I went.

Like any profession, there are bad apples and I think that's why people are distrusting.

Doc Baker by chance?
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So is it better to give them
Liquid Benedryl or the tablets??


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Glad to hear she is doing better. I would lean towards copperhead just based on the swelling. Compared to most envenomations I handle, her swelling is mild. We typically see less swelling with the copperheads (plenty of other factors though that can influence).
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Doesn't matter. Works the same either way. To be honest, the benadryl doesn't really have any positive affects on the snake bite and doesn't do anything related to making it better. It just makes many dogs a little sedated and will help keep them a little more calm.
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