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Old 06-14-2018, 05:42 PM   #51
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Every move the POTUS makes is under a microscope none before him has ever dealt with. If the worst we can come up with is he returned a salute I say he’s not doing too bad����
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:58 PM   #52
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Give respect, get respect! ...even if they don't deserve it!
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:18 PM   #53
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He's not. The military custom is to salute the higher ranking official, NK general saluted Trump first, Trump returned a salute (which is never required by a higher ranking official, but is considered a sign of disrespect.)
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From what little research I did I would liken it to giving an "olive branch" or sign of peace. I believe by Saluting the General it was a clear sign of respect and offer of peace and Truce and recognition of the respect shown to him first. Bottom line is if Trump didnt return the salute the left Trump hating liberals would be crying how Trump insulted a foreign General.
Agree...my first thought too...

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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended the action Thursday afternoon, calling it ďa common courtesy,ď adding that ďwhen a military official from another government salutes ... you return that.Ē
He returned the salute....nor did he freakin bow.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:42 PM   #54
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A salute given is a salute returned. It is customary and honorable.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:37 PM   #55
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:44 PM   #56
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I saw it, the general saluted Trump then he simply returned it.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:55 PM   #57
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I'm really not sure why this should matter on anybody's g.a.s meter...I think I shrugged some when the bow happened last go round, but sure didn't let it steal my joy??
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:29 PM   #58
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I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion. A show of respect was all it was. This sounds like some of the crap that would be on CNN and spread by libitards.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:31 PM   #59
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but its still better than bowing.
Kind of a tallest midget argument.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:47 PM   #60
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If potus had given the general a hand shake and not salute he would have still been wrong in the eyes of some people. I think the general showed trump some respect and potus returned it! Thatís all. Not an issue in my eyes. Go Trump go
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:06 PM   #61
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Give respect, get respect! ...even if they don't deserve it!
Agreed completely. Kinda like the non sense with the bow. Total stupidity to make something out of stuff that don't matter.
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I'm really not sure why this should matter on anybody's g.a.s meter...I think I shrugged some when the bow happened last go round, but sure didn't let it steal my joy??
lol Small time stuff...Ö..I gotta believe their are bigger issues.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:11 PM   #62
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Agreed completely. Kinda like the non sense with the bow. Total stupidity to make something out of stuff that don't matter.

lol Small time stuff...Ö..I gotta believe their are bigger issues.
Obviously, bowing "earns" you a nobel peace prize. Go figure that non sense.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:34 PM   #63
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Obviously, bowing "earns" you a nobel peace prize. Go figure that non sense.
lol...Ö...that could be a new trick. Show of respect to despots and iron fisted Kings and win a medal. Heck, don't mean nothing either way since the days of Gandhi, MLK from what I can gather. Well, that young girl from Pakistan that got shot in the face has made an impact also.
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he returned a salute, like a commander should regardless of the army
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:56 PM   #65
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Dennis Rodman is the real hero here. Trump should be saluting him
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:07 PM   #66
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Go Trump!!! He is the GOAT.

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Old 06-14-2018, 10:20 PM   #67
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Because he was saluted first.. This is a military custom, whether enemy or foe you respect the higher ranking official


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Old 06-14-2018, 11:53 PM   #68
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returned salutes are the respectful thing to do. Enemy armies have saluted each other for centuries. Grant saluted Lee as he was leaving Appomattox. Granted, a NK general doesn't compare to either one of those generals, but it was just an example. Just because Trump returned the salute, doesn't mean he is going to abandon Americans and take NK's side. I really don't see the big deal about the situation. Heck, truth be known, he probably wasn't sure what to do. Its not like he has a military background. He saw a salute, and returned it. Move along liberals and get over it.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:33 AM   #69
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Not to hijack the thread, but this reminds me of my military days. I used to love catching butter bars coming out of the school house at O.C.S. with an arm full of books. This little ole PFC would proudly hold that salute and loudly announce, "Good morning/afternoon/evening Sir." The mental anguish that ensued on their end was priceless at times. Out of respect, they all returned the salute. Some of them had a few choice words to accompany it though. I finally stopped when a Sergeant Major caught on to what I was doing and smoked my *** for a week.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:46 AM   #70
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People who don't like Trump are always going to try to find fault with something... anything. He's actually doing a decent job and the country hasn't imploded as most suggested it would on TV. Instead of just admitting they were wrong and giving the guy a chance every day it's some new BS story that the media labels as "news". This is NOT news! It's not journalism... it's lazy sensationalism. They might as well all change their names to Star Magazine.

To me it was a sign of respect and the general saluted Trump first.

Living in the time of a 24 hour news cycle is tough. Let the man do his job!
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Old 06-15-2018, 05:48 AM   #71
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Why are you quoting/watching Politic and CNN to begin with?
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Old 06-15-2018, 05:49 AM   #72
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:13 AM   #73
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I was never in the military but a buddy of mine was, and is a history buff told me this. The salute started in ancient times, when an army would march into foreign territory they would raise their face mask to show they come in peace. They would all raise their face mask using their right hand and all looks like our salute today. Maybe he was showing he is coming in peace.

He also told me the 21 gun salute came from old navy's pulling into foreign harbor and they would fire all 21 guns to clear the cannons, showing they came in peace as well.

Not sure if any of these are true history but they made good stories while drinking one night.
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https://www.thebalancecareers.com/u-...salute-3331994
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The origin of the Hand Salute is uncertain. Some historians believe it began in late Roman times when assassinations were common. A citizen who wanted to see a public official had to approach with his right hand raised to show that he did not hold a weapon. Knights in armor raised visors with the right hand when meeting a comrade.


This practice gradually became a way of showing respect and, in early American history, sometimes involved removing the hat. By 1820, the motion was modified to touching the hat, and since then it has become the Hand Salute used today.


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The use of gun salutes for military occasions is traced to early warriors who demonstrated their peaceful intentions by placing their weapons in a position that rendered them ineffective. Apparently this custom was universal, with the specific act varying with time and place, depending on the weapons being used. A North African tribe, for example, trailed the points of their spears on the ground to indicate that they did not mean to be hostile.

The tradition of rendering a salute by cannon originated in the 14th century as firearms and cannons came into use. Since these early devices contained only one projectile, discharging them once rendered them ineffective. Originally warships fired seven-gun salutes--the number seven probably selected because of its astrological and Biblical significance. Seven planets had been identified and the phases of the moon changed every seven days. The Bible states that God rested on the seventh day after Creation, that every seventh year was sabbatical and that the seven times seventh year ushered in the Jubilee year.

Land batteries, having a greater supply of gunpowder, were able to fire three guns for every shot fired afloat, hence the salute by shore batteries was 21 guns. The multiple of three probably was chosen because of the mystical significance of the number three in many ancient civilizations. Early gunpowder, composed mainly of sodium nitrate, spoiled easily at sea, but could be kept cooler and drier in land magazines. When potassium nitrate improved the quality of gunpowder, ships at sea adopted the salute of 21 guns.

The 21-gun salute became the highest honor a nation rendered. Varying customs among the maritime powers led to confusion in saluting and return of salutes. Great Britain, the world's preeminent seapower in the 18th and 19th centuries, compelled weaker nations to salute first, and for a time monarchies received more guns than did republics. Eventually, by agreement, the international salute was established at 21 guns, although the United States did not agree on this procedure until August 1875.

The gun salute system of the United States has changed considerably over the years. In 1810, the "national salute" was defined by the War Department as equal to the number of states in the Union--at that time 17. This salute was fired by all U.S. military installations at 1:00 p.m. (later at noon) on Independence Day. The President also received a salute equal to the number of states whenever he visited a military installation.

In 1842, the Presidential salute was formally established at 21 guns. In 1890, regulations designated the "national salute" as 21 guns and redesignated the traditional Independence Day salute, the "Salute to the Union," equal to the number of states. Fifty guns are also fired on all military installations equipped to do so at the close of the day of the funeral of a President, ex-President, or President-elect.

Today the national salute of 21 guns is fired in honor of a national flag, the sovereign or chief of state of a foreign nation, a member of a reigning royal family, and the President, ex-President and President-elect of the United States. It is also fired at noon of the day of the funeral of a President, ex-President, or President-elect.

Gun salutes are also rendered to other military and civilian leaders of this and other nations. The number of guns is based on their protocol rank. These salutes are always in odd numbers.

learned me some new stuff because of this thread... cool.
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Well ok
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:31 AM   #76
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As a retired Army officer, I would be upset if President Trump did NOT return the generalís salute. If one of my junior officers was saluted and did not RETURN the salute, I would have been all up in his s&@$.

A salute is a sign of respect and to not return the salute is disrespectful.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:01 AM   #77
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#TDS
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I love watching libs heads explode!!
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:06 AM   #78
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:15 AM   #79
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Maybe it should be a requirement that in order to be POTUS, you must have served in the military.

Maybe it should be that in order to serve in Congress or Senate, prior military.

To me, no problem. Respectful vs disrepect.

Watch movies from WWII, heck, watch Hogan's Heros, Colonel Hogan saluted Colonel Klink all the time.

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Old 06-15-2018, 10:24 AM   #80
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Maybe it should be a requirement that in order to be POTUS, you must have served in the military.

Maybe it should be that in order to serve in Congress or Senate, prior military.

To me, no problem. Respectful vs disrepect.

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Or at least a "natural born citizen."
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:50 AM   #81
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People are just not in their right mind sometimes when they comment/observe ... When you dont like someone you nitpick.

This is nitpicking at its finest.

(I had a jab at Military service here to end the comment, but I will be the man with the bigger hands here)

Im just jokin around ...
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:31 PM   #82
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Why are you quoting/watching Politic and CNN to begin with?
Why shouldn’t I?
I don’t agree with most of what’s on CNN (don’t visit Politico often) but I’m interested in their point of view if for nothing else to better frame my arguments on issues.

Why sometimes I even visit/watch MSNBC

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Old 06-15-2018, 12:37 PM   #83
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Why shouldnít I?
I donít agree with most of whatís on CNN (donít visit Politico often) but Iím interested in their point of view if for nothing else to better frame my arguments on issues.

Why sometimes I even visit/watch MSNBC
Ok. And you started this thread why?
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Ok. And you started this thread why?
Curiosity on what the GS would think? Pretty much knew but curious anyway
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Why shouldnít I?
I donít agree with most of whatís on CNN (donít visit Politico often) but Iím interested in their point of view if for nothing else to better frame my arguments on issues.

Why sometimes I even visit/watch MSNBC
Noooooo!!! U are un-American and must be banished sir. After you wash out your eyes & ears with lye!!!
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A throat punch with precision accuracy would have sent a more meaningful message. MSM media headlines would be "Evil Trump beats woman".

Keep up the good work Mr. President!
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Maybe it should be a requirement that in order to be POTUS, you must have served in the military.

Maybe it should be that in order to serve in Congress or Senate, prior military.
Ever read Starship Troopers? Had to serve in the military to become a citizen. Lots of countries require service of everyone, never saw an issue with that.
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the chicks in that movie were hot....
didn't Winning charlie marry one of them?
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M How many other governments kill there family members.
Ever hear of the Clinton Crime Syndicate?


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Must be FAKE NEWS! No it was true! As a vet, I was insulted he saluted an officer of worst government in the world. How many other governments kill there family members. Starve there own people. But Kim did a real snow job on trump! Time will tell all the trump supporters trump, supports the Russians also. I hope other Vets on here arn't blind!!!
Blast away.
Funny, you sound more like the blue falcon. To much else to be mad at then this. He's showing respect where respect is given.
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