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Old 01-15-2018, 06:37 PM   #1
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Default Bownanza food prep, health permit required?

So we have thought about Bownanza and doing a cook team. We never have done one before and I am sure someone who has can help us out with this before we get much farther.

Do we need a health permit? and no not trying to be funny. 3 yrs ago we did a benefit for a coworker selling BBQ plates. We had a nice facility (outside), running water, etc.

City Code and health guys came in and said we had to shut it down. They said we did not have items on ice, temps were not controlled etc. Yes we were SELLING the plates to help. The major burn was that we did not have a permit before hand. That seemed to really tick them off. BTW we are a non-profit organization.

I asked if we were to give the left over plates away if that was any different. They said "no". We were advised if any of our food was going out to the general public for a fee or free a permit was required.

I was advised it was accountability and someone (organization or person) that could be tracked down in case of illness. I do not want to get anyone sick and I never have thought this far ahead until now. I am not sure, is this what they are referring to:

http://www.dshs.texas.gov/foodestabl...ting.aspx#temp

PERMIT REQUIRED: Each temporary food establishment, unless operated by a
non-profit registered as a 501(C) organization, or in an area that is under the
jurisdiction of a local health authority, shall have a valid permit issued by the
Department. The single event permit is valid for one individual food booth or unit
at one specific event, and is valid for 14 consecutive days from the initial effective
date. The multiple event permit is valid for one individual food booth or unit at
multiple events for 2 years from the initial effective date. You may request a
permit application by calling the Department at (512) 834-6626 or by
downloading the application from the following website:
http://www.dshs.texas.gov/foodestabl...ting.aspx#temp.
The submission of the permit application and payment of the fees may be
completed on-line. NOTE: IF THE EVENT IS TO BE HELD IN AN AREA
PERMITTED AND INSPECTED BY A CITY, COUNTY OR PUBLIC HEALTH
DISTRICT, YOU MUST CONTACT THAT AGENCY FOR PERMITTING.
FOOD PREPARATION: Food shall be obtained from approved sources and be in
sound condition. Food shall be prepared only in permitted or licensed
establishments. Food prepared in a private home is not allowed. The Texas
Food Establishment Rules (TFER) requires that meat and poultry products be
cooked to the following minimum internal temperatures: Poultry-165F, Ground
Meats-155F, Pork-145F, and other Meats-145F. Time/temperature control for
safety (TCS) foods (i.e., foods which consist in whole or in part of milk or milk
products, eggs, cut tomatoes, cut melon, raw seed sprouts, cooked vegetables,
meat, and seafood) shall be held at 41F or lower, or at 135F or above.
Equipment adequate to cook and maintain foods at the required temperatures shall
be provided. An accurate food temperature thermometer (metal stem) shall be
used to monitor the proper internal cooking and holding temperatures of TCS foods.
Packaged foods shall not be stored in direct contact with water or undrained ice.
EQUIPMENT: Food, utensils and single service articles shall be protected from
contamination during storage, preparation, display and service. Utensils, including
ice scoops, shall be provided to minimize handling of foods. Food contact surfaces
shall be easily cleanable and washed, rinsed and sanitized as necessary using three
suitably sized basins as follows: wash with warm soapy water, rinse in clean water
and sanitize with 50 ppm chlorine or 200 ppm quaternary amm
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:43 PM   #2
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It's a big backyard bbq. If they need a health permit......they gonna need a liquor license too!

Unfortunately, they're not accepting anymore cookers at this time.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:45 PM   #3
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It's a big backyard bbq. If they need a health permit......they gonna need a liquor license too!

Unfortunately, they're not accepting anymore cookers at this time.
So no permit required? cool beans thanks man
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Dear Lord, please give me patience. I can't take on the whole world and reply to every idiotic thread that comes up. Please help me to refrain from pointing out stupid threads and the people that write them....Amen.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:49 PM   #5
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Dear Lord, please give me patience. I can't take on the whole world and reply to every idiotic thread that comes up. Please help me to refrain from pointing out stupid threads and the people that write them....Amen.
It's ok Curt I think he is just trying to help
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dear lord, please give me patience. I can't take on the whole world and reply to every idiotic thread that comes up. Please help me to refrain from pointing out stupid threads and the people that write them....amen.

lmfao!!
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Nothing food wise is for sale....its a big BBQ reunion..
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:53 PM   #8
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Dear Lord, please give me patience. I can't take on the whole world and reply to every idiotic thread that comes up. Please help me to refrain from pointing out stupid threads and the people that write them....Amen.
Hook line and sinker smh
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it's ok curt i think he is just trying to help
lmfaso
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:56 PM   #10
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Terry.............looks like Bill you and I are in!!!!!! Team Tripitas!!!!!!!! heck yea!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:58 PM   #11
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Hook line and sinker smh
oh lawd please Billy
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:59 PM   #12
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You are not selling any food....no permit necessary.


Edit...what Smart said.
Edit.1....what Curtintex said
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:00 PM   #13
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Nothing food wise is for sale....its a big BBQ reunion..
Awesome Jason! Look forward to chowing on those world famous wings you make
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it's ok curt i think he is just trying to help
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:02 PM   #15
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You are not selling any food....no permit necessary.


Edit...what Smart said.
Edit.1....what Curtintex said
Cool deal thanks Mary
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Nothing for sale and it's a private party. TBH members only. So technically it's not open to the public. We have a large open house every year and mail out invitations for this reason. Sad but true.


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Terry.............looks like Bill you and I are in!!!!!! "Team Tri-pitas"!!!!!!!! heck yea!!!!!!!!!
Since there are 3 of yall, I thought the above would make more sense.



Hope ya can make it. Yall are always welcome to join Team Fish Head.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:25 PM   #18
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Since there are 3 of yall, I thought the above would make more sense.



Hope ya can make it. Yall are always welcome to join Team Fish Head.
well heck we may just do that instead thanks TG!
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Since there are 3 of yall, I thought the above would make more sense.



Hope ya can make it. Yall are always welcome to join Team Fish Head.
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well heck we may just do that instead thanks TG!
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What are you a cop or something?
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We do catch most of our own food BTW.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:01 PM   #23
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We do catch most of our own food BTW.
I am cool with that. Look at my profile pic. I have also been known to eat deer intestine lining with deer heart
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I am cool with that. Look at my profile pic. I have also been known to eat deer intestine lining with deer heart
Was the deer still alive at the time?

I'm a big fan of Nature's Grocery Store and Super Markets.
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Dear Lord, please give me patience. I can't take on the whole world and reply to every idiotic thread that comes up. Please help me to refrain from pointing out stupid threads and the people that write them....Amen.



And unfortunately they multiply!! Pooof... mind blown!!!


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And unfortunately they multiply!! Pooof... mind blown!!!


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The Fish Heads will give Curt some relief on this one, errrr, three.
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