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    Did I miss something in my WW II history regarding Hitler?

    So, I consider myself something of a history buff and often discuss history with both of my boys who show a similar passion and can hold their own in a discussion on the subject.

    Yesterday my 12 year old comes home and tells me he had an interesting conversation with a "not be named adult" at the school yesterday while having a group discussion on racism. The "not be named adult" proceeded to tell the group of boys Hitler was a great leader and good for his country until be got mixed in with the racist at the end of WWII.

    Needless to say I was a little floored and asked him if he was sure the"not to be named adult" said Hitler and not Hillary or someone else. He said nope, Hilter and proceeded to tell the "not to be named" adult that was stupid and Hitler was a Nazi from the get go.

    So, my question is did I miss something in regards to Hitler's being a great leader? The only thing I can think of is rallying his people behind a cause. Any other thoughts?

    Also, would I be out of line send the said "not to be named adult" a copy of good WWII History Book and a copy of Mein Kempf with a note saying there is not greatness with this guy.

    #2
    If murdering millions of innocent people and having your country bombed into oblivion and ultimately defeated by other nations is the sign of a great leader then I hope Trump is a terrible leader.

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      #3
      Mein Kempf was published in 1925, Hitler didn't gain power until 1930 or 1932. To say he wasn't a racist prior would be ignoring his own record of his beliefs.

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        #4
        I dont think you missed anything but apparently the Unnamed adult learned a lot of inaccurate history while in their higher education

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          #5
          He was a great leader.

          He just awful values and beliefs. Look how many people he motivated to do unspeakable things.

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            #6
            I would say that Hitler was an awesome leader. I would say the problem is that he had some terrible thoughts and carried out hideous actions against people. His ability to get people to follow him though, was incredible. The fact that he used his leadership for evil and wrong has nothing to do with his leadership abilities.

            lead·er
            ˈlēdər/Submit
            noun
            1.
            the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country.
            "the leader of a protest group"
            synonyms: chief, head, principal; More

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              #7
              One other thing I will add, prior to WWI, Hitler by all accounts was not racist. It's actually pretty widely agreed he wasn't. It was after his country laid down in WWI that he lost his mind, moved to Germany, and 3rd reich stuff started.

              Maybe the adult said WWI, or maybe your child misheard? Just throwing it out there so you don't jump down someone's throat to find out it was just a misunderstanding.

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                #8
                If you were to say he was a great leader as in he was able to get pretty much the entire country to follow his will then yes was great at that. Problem is what he got them to do was evil so there really is no place in early education to even be discussing that he in any way was great. He might of been great at hopscotch as well but who cares.

                He was great at being an evil leader and killing millions of innocent people.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Trust View Post
                  So, I consider myself something of a history buff and often discuss history with both of my boys who show a similar passion and can hold their own in a discussion on the subject.

                  Yesterday my 12 year old comes home and tells me he had an interesting conversation with a "not be named adult" at the school yesterday while having a group discussion on racism. The "not be named adult" proceeded to tell the group of boys Hitler was a great leader and good for his country until be got mixed in with the racist at the end of WWII.

                  Needless to say I was a little floored and asked him if he was sure the"not to be named adult" said Hitler and not Hillary or someone else. He said nope, Hilter and proceeded to tell the "not to be named" adult that was stupid and Hitler was a Nazi from the get go.

                  So, my question is did I miss something in regards to Hitler's being a great leader? The only thing I can think of is rallying his people behind a cause. Any other thoughts?

                  Also, would I be out of line send the said "not to be named adult" a copy of good WWII History Book and a copy of Mein Kempf with a note saying there is not greatness with this guy.
                  I googled Hitlers early years
                  pretty much identified as a raciest in about 1909 going forward

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                    #10
                    I too enjoy WWII history. I guess you have define "great leader" and "good for his country". Germany is better off post-war (many years post-war [including Cold War]). Millions of humans lost their lives to that man and his ideology.
                    Hardly the traits I look for in a leader.

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                      #11
                      Maybe she meant a "great painter"...which is up for debate

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by topshot View Post
                        Maybe she meant a "great painter"...which is up for debate
                        apparently he was not much good at that either but he did manage to make a modest living....off of Jewish business owners...go figure

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                          #13
                          Hitler was a spawn of Satan, and one of the most evil men in the history of the world.

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                            #14
                            I had read an interesting article written by a Austrian citizen on how Hitler was able to take over their country without firing a shot. He simple led people to believe they would be much better off under Socialism. He promised many things free education, free food, better housing for free etc. then once he took control he began the slow destruction of the country my controlling what they read, mandatory service to the government etc. So in that regard yes he was a great leader just a very evil one.

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                              #15
                              Just based of the definition of leadership Hitler was problem one of the greatest leaders ever. There is no denying that he was able to take Germany from near ruins and turn them into one of the biggest superpowers the world has ever seen. You don't have to like his politics or his values but you can't deny what he was able to accomplish.

                              The same can be said of Putin. His is a thug but you can't discount his leadership. You have to respect that because if you don't and discount him you end up with a Hitler on your hands.

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