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Old 04-17-2018, 09:15 PM   #1
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Who does it and hows the market right now on finding steady work hauling in Texas?

What kinda money can one make doing this?

Looking at getting in but want more info before I pull the trigger on a truck and trailer and all the other fees and paperwork.

Would be using a 1 ton and a gooseneck.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:19 PM   #2
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In for replies!

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I am no expert and I have been out for a while. With a 1-ton and a gooseneck, your hitting DOT regulated weight. A lot more rules and regs to follow. I was averaging around $100 an hour in my single cab F150 with most loads riding shotgun in the passenger seat. Probably could have done it in a Prius. That being said, that’s the market I went after. Donuts and cards, cards and doughnuts. I got in good with a coring sample company and stayed busy before the initial slow down a few years back. It’s a lot of road time and I didn’t like being away from the family. Had a million dollar insurance policy for a couple hundred bucks a month. I had fun while it lasted. With motivation and determination, you can start making money quickly. And you don’t have to break the bank doing it. Now the truck and trailer are gonna make you more marketable, but come at a cost. Good luck!
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I am no expert and I have been out for a while. With a 1-ton and a gooseneck, your hitting DOT regulated weight. A lot more rules and regs to follow. I was averaging around $100 an hour in my single cab F150 with most loads riding shotgun in the passenger seat. Probably could have done it in a Prius. That being said, that’s the market I went after. Donuts and cards, cards and doughnuts. I got in good with a coring sample company and stayed busy before the initial slow down a few years back. It’s a lot of road time and I didn’t like being away from the family. Had a million dollar insurance policy for a couple hundred bucks a month. I had fun while it lasted. With motivation and determination, you can start making money quickly. And you don’t have to break the bank doing it. Now the truck and trailer are gonna make you more marketable, but come at a cost. Good luck!


What did that entail?

Good to know I have a 1/2 ton now even access a 17' F250 if needed just no trailer yet.

I was looking at that Uship site saw plenty of loads I could haul now but what do i need to do it legit/legal?
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:39 PM   #5
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I got a stack of doughnuts and a stack of business cards. I kept them in front of the people I was going after every week. Wanted them to keep seeing my face.
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I have a trucking company, go talk to local equipment rental companies and haul their equipment. I’ve been doing that for the last 10 years.
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Everyone Iíve known that has tried it wasnít able to make it go for one reason or another. Tough business, but somebody has to do it. Might as well be you.


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Foremost you better have funds available or solid financial backing to get you thru until companies you haul for pay you. My son has a trucking company that has been hauling oilfield equipment going on 10 years now. Mostly he has 30 18 wheelers and has cut back to 4 goosenecks. Most companies he hauls for pay between 60 & 120 days. So unless you have cash available for equipment, fuel, taxes, Cargo insurance, Dot fees & fines, maintenance and equipment breakdowns, maybe you should think twice. Not saying you can’t do it, but it’s a lot more involved than just buying a truck & trailer. You would be surprised at how many of the big boy oil companies and service companies are the worst in paying. Oh, not to mention lawyers fees to collect that money and to deal with lawsuits from traffic accidents. Next time you drive the highways or watch TV commercials, count the number of lawyer ads you see. There are a lot of people on the road hoping to receive their retirement at trucker’s expense. Just for the record, not all accidents are caused by the hotshotters or long haul drivers. Food for thought & good luck. One more inconvenience, be ready to deal with Electronic Log issues. If you still plan to get into this business, good luck.
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I was very unconventional. My uncle was a hot shot owner/operator for 30 plus years. I told him what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it and he gave me the advice I needed to make it happen. That being said, I wasn’t trying to make a living doing it. I was just looking to make some good part time money. One of these guys on this site is gonna give you better advice. I’m just telling you that you don’t have to go broke getting started. Heck my first haul had nothing to do with the oil field. A plumbing company needed a toilet delivered. I strapped it in the truck and took off!
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:49 PM   #10
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Foremost you better have funds available or solid financial backing to get you thru until companies you haul for pay you. My son has a trucking company that has been hauling oilfield equipment going on 10 years now. Mostly he has 30 18 wheelers and has cut back to 4 goosenecks. Most companies he hauls for pay between 60 & 120 days. So unless you have cash available for equipment, fuel, taxes, Cargo insurance, Dot fees & fines, maintenance and equipment breakdowns, maybe you should think twice. Not saying you canít do it, but itís a lot more involved than just buying a truck & trailer. You would be surprised at how many of the big boy oil companies and service companies are the worst in paying. Oh, not to mention lawyers fees to collect that money and to deal with lawsuits from traffic accidents. Next time you drive the highways or watch TV commercials, count the number of lawyer ads you see. There are a lot of people on the road hoping to receive their retirement at truckerís expense. Just for the record, not all accidents are caused by the hotshotters or long haul drivers. Food for thought & good luck. One more inconvenience, be ready to deal with Electronic Log issues. If you still plan to get into this business, good luck.
why don't you factor your tickets.
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Foremost you better have funds available or solid financial backing to get you thru until companies you haul for pay you. My son has a trucking company that has been hauling oilfield equipment going on 10 years now. Mostly he has 30 18 wheelers and has cut back to 4 goosenecks. Most companies he hauls for pay between 60 & 120 days. So unless you have cash available for equipment, fuel, taxes, Cargo insurance, Dot fees & fines, maintenance and equipment breakdowns, maybe you should think twice. Not saying you canít do it, but itís a lot more involved than just buying a truck & trailer. You would be surprised at how many of the big boy oil companies and service companies are the worst in paying. Oh, not to mention lawyers fees to collect that money and to deal with lawsuits from traffic accidents. Next time you drive the highways or watch TV commercials, count the number of lawyer ads you see. There are a lot of people on the road hoping to receive their retirement at truckerís expense. Just for the record, not all accidents are caused by the hotshotters or long haul drivers. Food for thought & good luck. One more inconvenience, be ready to deal with Electronic Log issues. If you still plan to get into this business, good luck.
This is all words of wisdom here. I was going to type that but Gatt covers it all. My Goa used to have a trucking company and got rid of it when DOT kept changing and enforcing new rules/regs.

I would look into contract hauling for companies like ACME.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:52 PM   #12
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do you have a cdl yet?
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I was very unconventional. My uncle was a hot shot owner/operator for 30 plus years. I told him what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it and he gave me the advice I needed to make it happen. That being said, I wasnít trying to make a living doing it. I was just looking to make some good part time money. One of these guys on this site is gonna give you better advice. Iím just telling you that you donít have to go broke getting started. Heck my first haul had nothing to do with the oil field. A plumbing company needed a toilet delivered. I strapped it in the truck and took off!
Same here really just looking for extra cash but if it turns into full time gig then great.

Not looking to work the oil patches they are too far Id have to move. Im in the Austin area. I was thinking cars, equipment, trailers stuff like that.
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I have a trucking company, go talk to local equipment rental companies and haul their equipment. Iíve been doing that for the last 10 years.
Good to know I just figured they hauled their own.
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do you have a cdl yet?
I did but was not using it so let it go a year ago.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:03 PM   #16
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Depends on what you want to haul. I use a hot shot service quite frequently for hauling parts for the company I work for delivering from the Dallas area to Nacogdoches. Cost is generally around $450 dollars each time and you could haul what we need in a Prius.
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It’s, not my company it’s my son’. He has looked into factoring before but wasn’t ready to go that route. Like I said he has been doing it for a little over 10 years and thanks to hard, smart work & to the Lord he is successful. The point I was trying to make is there is so much more to this business than just “ go buy a truck”. He employs over 50 drivers, 2 managers, 2 shop personnel and manages to pay them every two weeks. So, he is making good money. Just want the OP to understand that he needs to plan & manage his resources carefully if he wants to make a living from this industry. It is very competitive and there will be down time to deal with so he needs to plan accordingly. I wish him all the luck in his venture.
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Itís, not my company itís my soní. He has looked into factoring before but wasnít ready to go that route. Like I said he has been doing it for a little over 10 years and thanks to hard, smart work & to the Lord he is successful. The point I was trying to make is there is so much more to this business than just ď go buy a truckĒ. He employs over 50 drivers, 2 managers, 2 shop personnel and manages to pay them every two weeks. So, he is making good money. Just want the OP to understand that he needs to plan & manage his resources carefully if he wants to make a living from this industry. It is very competitive and there will be down time to deal with so he needs to plan accordingly. I wish him all the luck in his venture.
Thanks for the info. Im trying to get all the info i can to make a plan.
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Depends on what you want to haul. I use a hot shot service quite frequently for hauling parts for the company I work for delivering from the Dallas area to Nacogdoches. Cost is generally around $450 dollars each time and you could haul what we need in a Prius.
Not trying to stick to one thing unless it just works out that way. What kinda of parts are you shipping? Maybe I can find something similar around Austin.

For smaller stuff I can use the wife's Honda HRV!!

If i can get by with the F150 and the F250 I already have that works for me. Ill just need a trailer.
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I have know a lot of hot shotters, several personal friends. I don't know anyone who has made it last. You need big bucks keep it going when things go south.....and they always do.

I can ship anything that will fit on a pallet just about anywhere in the US overnight for $400. You can't touch that trying to drive a truck.
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I have 3 friends who went belly up trying it.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:13 AM   #22
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You have to save money. My ex BIL was doing it full time. He was the type who wanted to work when he wanted to. He quit his job and went full time. Bought a dodge dually and 40’ gooseneck. He was bragging one day how he made $85k that year. I didn’t think that was that great but was assuming that was his net income after all expenses paid. In a couple years he wore out the truck, and was still making payments on it. It needed fuel injectors and he didn’t even have the money to pay for it. He was making payments on a truck and trailer and couldn’t even use it. He took a loss selling the trailer and went majorly upside down on trading the truck in after my dad paid to fix it. My point is don’t go too deep, and put back money for expenses. He didn’t and looked like a fool
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I can ship anything that will fit on a pallet just about anywhere in the US overnight for $400. You can't touch that trying to drive a truck.
Sure I could if I planned for a return load paying more for someone else your load would be gas money.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:39 AM   #24
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First off, go to DPS and see what it takes to reinstate your CDL. You may be able to take your physical and get it done, otherwise you're looking at written and driving all over again. The driving isn't what it used to be, fail rates are unbelievable.
Secondly, check with local companies that use owner operators. There are those that use pickups, vans, and 1 ton flat beds without trailers. You can get your feet wet there and see if it fits what you want before sinking money into it.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:45 AM   #25
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I used to hot shot. I had a pretty sweet deal while it lasted. I had an '06 Freightliner Summit Hauler and pulled a 45 foot spread axle gooseneck. I was doing mostly local stuff...I would come to town about 7 in the morning, pull 4 or 5 loads and get back home by about 5:30 or 6:00 every evening with an occasional (say...once a month) over night trip somewhere. But, like a lot of people have said, it's hard to make it last. You wind up essentially being on call 24/7/365. You can make really good money, until something breaks, or the loads quit coming...and either or both of those things will happen. A lot of people think, "I'll buy a truck and let someone else drive it." NO ONE will take care of your equipment...and you will be left with a vehicle parked at some truck stop in Montana or somewhere that you have to go get.

Some people make it...I didn't, I apparently sucked at it.

I left that and bought a Peterbilt and went to hauling cows...that was great money and great people, but ALOT of hours. I sold all of the trucks a few years back and went back to a desk job.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:07 AM   #26
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I have a dump trailer that makes good money on the side when it is not tied up on the jobsite. Not really a hot shot, but I guy could make some $$$ if he worked at it...
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:17 AM   #27
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I have a buddy that owns a logistics company in Houston. They're always looking for drivers, though I'm not sure if they need hot shots or just 18-wheelers.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:22 AM   #28
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Freight Rates are at an all time high right now. The new electronic log was made mandatory this month (no more manipulating paper logs ). Its added an extra day on most trips across country. I have been a freight agent for over 25 years and what I am seeing right now is crazy. I expect anything that is shipped on a truck will be increasing in price unless they change the law back.

That being said , Its still a tough business for the small trucker , cash flow is what kills most guys.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:26 AM   #29
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I use 3-4 companies regularly who do hotshot hauling. It's a very competitive market right now, especially in the Houston area. I've seen the smaller guys come and go over the last 12 years, and it's sad because those are the guys I like to use.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:26 AM   #30
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My little brother has been trying to make the trucking thing work for about 10 years. First he was delivering new truck piggy-back on each other. many many times he'd get stuck in bfe and have to hire a service to pick him up and take to station. Then he bought a trailer to deliver trucks. The trailer is always breaking, replaced the hydraulics several times. His F350 has had to have everything replaced. Driving that much and hauling things in all types of conditions you are bound to have something break. He has not been able to put any money aside. Get a small car and contact your local pharmacy distribution centers. I do that on the side using my harley or a small Yaris we have. At night i will end up doing a ton of old people homes that need last minute meds. And I do it when I want.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:13 AM   #31
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There is money to be made there but have some funds put back for repairs, tires etc. as stated you will need liability insurance, depending on weight limits you will be hauling and types of products. Info on running under your own authority, cargo insurance, etc etc. Put a grand away at least a month for repairs and the unknown because they will happen. Best advice run don’t walk away from it.
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So far from what Im reading online staying under 26k lbs is the key to staying away from alot of the regs and extra headaches.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:15 AM   #33
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What about renting roll offs?
I know here in the oilfield there a big deal.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:23 AM   #34
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So far from what Im reading online staying under 26k lbs is the key to staying away from alot of the regs and extra headaches.
That is true. However, a lot of people can haul under 26k so there is less need in my opinion. For instance, we only pay trucking if we need to be over 26k since we aren't DOT.
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So far from what Im reading online staying under 26k lbs is the key to staying away from alot of the regs and extra headaches.
You can stay under 26k gvcw only if you stay in Texas....Once you cross state lines it drops to 10k and you fall under Interstate rules instead of Intrastate...I hot shotted for about 8 years....If you need help with finding the companies to do and file your paperwork let me know....
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What a mess. No way I would do it. People paying late or not paying, getting fat driving a truck, boring job, on the road all the time.

There is a reason people drive trucks for a living
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:20 PM   #37
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I hire hotshots and big trucks for oilfield hauling daily. In my experience it is cheaper to hire a big truck to haul your smaller loads than to hire a shot shot. I use hotshots if the price is right and or available but they usually want more than big trucks. Also big trucks are more readily available. I know some hotshots who stay busy but they are usually loaded and on the road when I need them. The freight market is very strong right now so depending on what industry you are targeting you could make killing.
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See post #1 http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=689741
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:14 PM   #39
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I haul but I run an 18 wheeler for a major shipper, not hot shot. I use a company truck gas etc, it will break it will all break. I've been w my company 20yrs but like I said I'm just an employee when it comes to it. 3 guys I know personally have gone bust trying to hot shot
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You can stay under 26k gvcw only if you stay in Texas....Once you cross state lines it drops to 10k and you fall under Interstate rules instead of Intrastate...I hot shotted for about 8 years....If you need help with finding the companies to do and file your paperwork let me know....
Yep staying in TX and central Tx if possible.

Not looking to go out of state or move to the oil patch.
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The husband of my wife's best friend just got started in it and she says he can stay as busy as he wants to be in North Texas.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:24 PM   #42
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Not quite hot shotting but man, what my employer pays a year for hauling medical stuff is crazy. They are paying $500k a year for the contract that hauls coolers back and forth. They do the occasional equipment that could be loaded into a van. When I saw what we were paying, I thought I was in the wrong business. My company finally got smart and did the financials and found they can replace them with 5 lower paid drivers and 4 vans and a single box truck and save $350k a year.
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I would try a flatbed truck first and grow into a larger truck or trailer. I am in the commercial truck tire business and have hotshot customers. Some have been around the full 5 years I have been in the business but a lot come & go
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:55 PM   #44
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Yep staying in TX and central Tx if possible.



Not looking to go out of state or move to the oil patch.


Plenty of work hauling construction materials but they will be heavier loads that are harder to tie down as compared to oil patch hauling. But oil patch hauling can involve more long rough dirt roads that are hard on your rig.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:02 PM   #45
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Had a couple of kids deliver a cabin to my place this week. Not sure how much money they made off of it but it did restore my faith in today's youth.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:16 PM   #46
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Best way to find loads to haul? Uship seems to be shady kinda like Craigslist

Any good load boards I should look at?

How do dispatch companies work?
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Old 04-25-2018, 08:03 AM   #47
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http://www.getloaded.com/

https://truckstop.com/

https://www.dat.com/
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Old 04-25-2018, 08:06 AM   #48
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Most dispatch companies take 10% , most of the sites i listed above have mobile apps , you can find your own loads and save that money .

If you get all your junk together , authority , ins etc, send me a message . I load hot shots daily all over .

make sure you get at least 100K on cargo as well .
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Old 04-25-2018, 08:18 AM   #49
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What about small deliveries that can be made with a 250 or 150 pickup truck, any market for that
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Old 04-25-2018, 06:16 PM   #50
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Most dispatch companies take 10% , most of the sites i listed above have mobile apps , you can find your own loads and save that money .

If you get all your junk together , authority , ins etc, send me a message . I load hot shots daily all over .

make sure you get at least 100K on cargo as well .

Ok thanks
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