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Old 09-20-2019, 08:31 PM   #1
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I guess with all the rain from the tropical storm dumped on us, theyíre looking for high ground! First venomous snake killed in 7 years at my place. Walked outside and he was hangin on the front porch! Gonna have to be extra careful with the little ones running around.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:39 PM   #2
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:41 PM   #3
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This....baby cottonmouth all day


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Old 09-20-2019, 08:41 PM   #4
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Yup juvenile...
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:41 PM   #5
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Yep looks like a cotton mouth.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:51 PM   #6
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It does NOT look dead!
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:06 PM   #7
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Agreed, juvenile cottonmouth.
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:10 PM   #8
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Dang man. Be careful. That rain probably does have critters stirred up.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:20 PM   #9
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I'll bet, he ain't alone...…..
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:49 AM   #10
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Pygmy rattler
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:50 AM   #11
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Pygmy rattler. You can tell by the whit tail
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:52 AM   #12
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Pygmy rattler. You can tell by the whit tail


What is a whit tail?

Whit tail season is almost here!


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Old 09-21-2019, 02:50 AM   #13
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Pygmy rattler. You can tell by the whit tail
Are you serious with this?
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:55 AM   #14
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Pygmy rattler. You can tell by the whit tail
Wrong, itís a cottonmouth. The tail is a yellow color. Also the pattern is not even close to a Pygmy.
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:56 AM   #15
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Juvenile cottonmouths and juvenile copperheads both have yellow tails so thats not even a factor. The color patterns are similar also. Here is a pic of a juvenile cottonmouth I took a few weeks ago at the lease laying in a shallow creek. Im going with cottonmouth.
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Old 09-21-2019, 04:24 AM   #16
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Which-ever it is; Hit it again across the head with the side of a shovel or hoe for good measure!!
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:56 AM   #17
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Itís a cottonmouth 100%
They have a similar pattern with the domino spots in them and yellow tail. Pattern fades with age as they get darker. They also have a dark stripe across their eye/head.

Copper head is a defined hour glass pattern tan/copper two tone and yellow tail.




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Old 09-21-2019, 06:32 AM   #18
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Cottonmouth ^^


Copperhead^^


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Old 09-21-2019, 08:03 AM   #19
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So it’s a cottonmouth? I didn’t know they both had the yellow tail! I took a shovel to it’s head and tossed it across the road in the ditch. Thanks for the ID
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:22 AM   #20
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It's venomous and dead. That's all that matters now.
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:53 AM   #21
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Does it really matter what kind of venomous snake it is, you didn’t even kill it with a spoon so the type of snake it really irrelevant
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:04 AM   #22
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I run over those things with a lawnmower all the time. Water moccasin. Color pattern, head, and tail are dead giveaways of the juveniles.
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:45 PM   #23
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Does it really matter what kind of venomous snake it is, you didnít even kill it with a spoon so the type of snake it really irrelevant
Someoneís wife finally let them have their phone back
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Old 09-21-2019, 12:57 PM   #24
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I guess I’m blind- I’ve never seen the pattern of a copperhead as an hour glass. It is clear as bell when you look at it. Tks
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:36 PM   #25
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I guess Iím blind- Iíve never seen the pattern of a copperhead as an hour glass. It is clear as bell when you look at it. Tks


The cottommmouth sometimes has the same pattern but itís coloration is different and it is spotted like a domino. Like below




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Old 09-21-2019, 04:44 PM   #26
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I guess Iím blind- Iíve never seen the pattern of a copperhead as an hour glass. It is clear as bell when you look at it. Tks
I thought I was a copperhead because Iíve seen so many threads on here showing juveniles with the yellow tail. Is it really that big of a deal?
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Old 09-21-2019, 07:28 PM   #27
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Is it really that big of a deal?
IRL? No.

On them internets? International incident.
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Old 09-21-2019, 07:41 PM   #28
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I'm thinking the exact opposite. On the internet no it's not a big deal. In an Emergency Room setting it could be a big deal. But that didn't happen so it's not a big deal.
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Old 09-21-2019, 07:44 PM   #29
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I was just trying to be helpful and show the difference between the two. No big deal.


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Old 09-21-2019, 08:20 PM   #30
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Go find it in the ditch and shoot it aga
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:01 PM   #31
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I thought I was a copperhead because Iíve seen so many threads on here showing juveniles with the yellow tail. Is it really that big of a deal?
Yes, it really is that big of a deal. I have a bunch of cottonmouths at my house, and few copperheads. Copperheads get a pass because their bite might make you swell and get a little sick if youíre healthy. A cottonmouth bite will rot your hand off. Cottonmouths donít get a pass. BTW, that is a juvenile cottonmouth.
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:59 PM   #32
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Yes, it really is that big of a deal. I have a bunch of cottonmouths at my house, and few copperheads. Copperheads get a pass because their bite might make you swell and get a little sick if youíre healthy. A cottonmouth bite will rot your hand off. Cottonmouths donít get a pass. BTW, that is a juvenile cottonmouth.
I meant people getting so bent. ďItís dead so what does it matterĒ. Simple mistake.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:48 PM   #33
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My grandma nearly died after getting bit by a copperhead on her porch. Now there's a 410 by the porch for this very reason. Has anyone else every been targeted by water moccasins while fishing? It seems they have it out for me during certain times of the year...super aggressive.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:50 PM   #34
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Why isnt it on fire?

Amateurs.
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Old 09-23-2019, 02:29 PM   #35
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https://youtu.be/GR2sA0MH_ZE


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Old 09-23-2019, 02:31 PM   #36
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https://youtu.be/egRGTDNCbSQ


I misspoke in this video but hereís a baby cottonmouth just like yours


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Old 09-23-2019, 02:36 PM   #37
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After looking closer at the pattern, color, yellow tail, head, etc. I have determined this snake is a dead snake. ;-)
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:52 PM   #38
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My grandma nearly died after getting bit by a copperhead on her porch. Now there's a 410 by the porch for this very reason. Has anyone else every been targeted by water moccasins while fishing? It seems they have it out for me during certain times of the year...super aggressive.

I took a knee with my son (4 at the time) about 4 feet from a coiled up cottonmouth. I touched it on the nose with a stick to get him to open his mouth so my boy could see why it's called a cotton mouth. We talked about it and why it could hurt him, poked it several time to get that mouth open again and again...then it finally slithered off into the creek.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:22 PM   #39
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I took a knee with my son (4 at the time) about 4 feet from a coiled up cottonmouth. I touched it on the nose with a stick to get him to open his mouth so my boy could see why it's called a cotton mouth. We talked about it and why it could hurt him, poked it several time to get that mouth open again and again...then it finally slithered off into the creek.
Then one day..when your son is older, he'll find himself in the woods.. and he'll trip while walking to the stand.. and he'll lift his head up off the leafy canapy on the forest floor...and be nose to nose with that snake.
And he will recognize the snake as being the one he saw with you as a kid.
And the snake will recognize the man as the boy who, with his father..let him live all those years ago...letting him father babies of his own..and live to an old age in those woods.
And that snake will bite your son in the face because.... snake.

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