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Old 11-26-2019, 02:45 PM   #51
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Guess you dont remember how it became the greatest country on earth.
Not by whiners whining... that's for sure!
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:53 PM   #52
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somebody call the waaaaaaambulance.

don't like it? don't let the door bump your @22 on the way out. Hell yes this is the best country on Earth by far and if you don't appreciate it we won't miss you.
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:53 PM   #53
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somebody call the waaaaaaambulance.

don't like it? don't let the door bump your @22 on the way out. Hell yes this is the best country on Earth by far and if you don't appreciate it we won't miss you.
And there is always one. Ignorance is bliss! This guy ^^^ most certainly applies.

By the way- your phone/device has a little button that probably has an arrow on it facing up, it might even be labeled as “shift”. Give it a try.
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Old 11-26-2019, 03:31 PM   #54
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somebody call the waaaaaaambulance.

don't like it? don't let the door bump your @22 on the way out. Hell yes this is the best country on Earth by far and if you don't appreciate it we won't miss you.
Did you type this from the social security line ?
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Old 11-26-2019, 03:37 PM   #55
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Did you type this from the social security line ?
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:04 PM   #56
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Texas ain't any better....how about getting taxed right out of family property that has been paid for for 50 years?
Gov. at all levels is full of sorry individuals who think you are the bank account for their social programs.
Texas is much better. I've lived in both and why I stay in Texas.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:51 PM   #57
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The only fair tax is a flat sales tax. Everyone participates equally and can make the decision to participate or not.
Which is exactly why you will never ever in a billion years see a flat tax. I don't even know why people bring it up. There's about a zero percent chance of it happening.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:52 PM   #58
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Which is exactly why you will never ever in a billion years see a flat tax. I don't even know why people bring it up. There's about a zero percent chance of it happening.
True and unfortunate. I dream of winning the lottery, I’ll dream of flat tax.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:56 PM   #59
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....and then pay a capital gains tax on the house they just sold?


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This is true.

IMO when you sell a house all the property taxes you've paid over the years should cancel against the "profits". Same for all the repairs/work over the years.

And if they are considered a money maker when you sell, you should be able to write off the losses when you sell also.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:04 PM   #60
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And there is always one. Ignorance is bliss! This guy ^^^ most certainly applies.

By the way- your phone/device has a little button that probably has an arrow on it facing up, it might even be labeled as “shift”. Give it a try.
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Did you type this from the social security line ?
Whining is a waste of energy. You guys want to find a little corner of the internet and mop each others' tears up with tampons, get after it, but don't be surprised if someone peeks into your public space and has a difference of opinion. Any of y'all lived in a foreign country? Got an idea what it's like to live under a different system of government or wealth distribution or you just want to gripe about living in the best place on earth because you don't have more productive outlets for your energy?
Petty nitpicking and personal attacks say more about you fellas than they do me.
Them innanets brings out the best in people! SMH
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:20 PM   #61
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Whining is a waste of energy. You guys want to find a little corner of the internet and mop each others' tears up with tampons, get after it, but don't be surprised if someone peeks into your public space and has a difference of opinion. Any of y'all lived in a foreign country? Got an idea what it's like to live under a different system of government or wealth distribution or you just want to gripe about living in the best place on earth because you don't have more productive outlets for your energy?
Petty nitpicking and personal attacks say more about you fellas than they do me.
Them innanets brings out the best in people! SMH
So just because we have it better here than other places, it gives us no right to speak our against what is unfair treatment at the hand of OUR, The People’s government??

Sure thing.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:23 PM   #62
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So just because we have it better here than other places, it gives us no right to speak our against what is unfair treatment at the hand of OUR, The People’s government??

Sure thing.
LOL


"Whining" is the first way to spread word to other voters. Staying quiet and taking it up the rear end gets you nothing but a lose rear.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:38 PM   #63
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So just because we have it better here than other places, it gives us no right to speak our against what is unfair treatment at the hand of OUR, The People’s government??

Sure thing.
I blocked that idiot a long time ago.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:47 PM   #64
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There are guys on here that have worked hard their entire lives and have been taxed out of the homes they worked hard for. Also guys who have been taxed out of property they have cared for for years.

I’m sure they are comforted knowing that they’d be worse off in Mexico.

I guess we should kiss the feet of those that have wasted us into this mess.


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Old 11-26-2019, 05:49 PM   #65
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This is true.

IMO when you sell a house all the property taxes you've paid over the years should cancel against the "profits". Same for all the repairs/work over the years.

And if they are considered a money maker when you sell, you should be able to write off the losses when you sell also.
****.... never even thought about the bigger picture. Way to get the BP up there.

I try to avoid thinking about it cause the tax man has his hand in every pocket and aspect of my life. Yet keeps trying to get more.
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:52 PM   #66
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So just because we have it better here than other places, it gives us no right to speak our against what is unfair treatment at the hand of OUR, The People’s government??

Sure thing.
Apparently, he's forgotten... (or never learned)-----
How this country, became what it is...….
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:05 PM   #67
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There are guys on here that have worked hard their entire lives and have been taxed out of the homes they worked hard for. Also guys who have been taxed out of property they have cared for for years.

I’m sure they are comforted knowing that they’d be worse off in Mexico.

I guess we should kiss the feet of those that have wasted us into this mess.


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I’ve tried not to get upset about it. I own a nice piece of property and house that I no longer live in due to work requirements. It has been paid for a long time. Various people that visited in the past commented how nice it was and they loved the big oak trees. I’ve been hanging onto it since a developer was supposed to buy me out for a good price. Just this month I get a tax bill for double what they were last year. Double??? At this rate I can’t afford to hold onto the property much longer unless a miracle or blessing happens. Why should I have to suddenly pay double the tax value on something that has no loan or lien attached? It’s 100% paid for.
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I’ve tried not to get upset about it. I own a nice piece of property and house that I no longer live in due to work requirements. It has been paid for a long time. Various people that visited in the past commented how nice it was and they loved the big oak trees. I’ve been hanging onto it since a developer was supposed to buy me out for a good price. Just this month I get a tax bill for double what they were last year. Double??? At this rate I can’t afford to hold onto the property much longer unless a miracle or blessing happens. Why should I have to suddenly pay double the tax value on something that has no loan or lien attached? It’s 100% paid for.


Because there are bureaucrats with cushy jobs requiring a 6 figure pension when they retire from doing nothing and friends of theirs that have money to make off of unneeded projects they were promised.

I truly am sorry to hear about your situation. It seems the leadership in the country at all levels is hell-bent on destroying the American dream.


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There are guys on here that have worked hard their entire lives and have been taxed out of the homes they worked hard for. Also guys who have been taxed out of property they have cared for for years.

I’m sure they are comforted knowing that they’d be worse off in Mexico.

I guess we should kiss the feet of those that have wasted us into this mess.


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It’s a **** shame! It’s as I’ve we never own the property!
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:03 PM   #70
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Apparently, he's forgotten... (or never learned)-----
How this country, became what it is...….
A whole **** revolution was fought over a fraction of the **** and taxes we’ve put up with.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:09 PM   #71
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Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his azz.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid...

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom was able to stay home to raise the kids.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:13 PM   #72
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Gotta feed the machine...........both political parties are in on it too, as they are the beneficiaries.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:21 PM   #73
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Tax his land,

Tax his bed,

Tax the table,

At which he's fed.



Tax his tractor,

Tax his mule,

Teach him taxes

Are the rule.



Tax his work,

Tax his pay,

He works for

peanuts anyway!



Tax his cow,

Tax his goat,

Tax his pants,

Tax his coat.



Tax his ties,

Tax his shirt,

Tax his work,

Tax his dirt.



Tax his tobacco,

Tax his drink,

Tax him if he

Tries to think.



Tax his cigars,

Tax his beers,

If he cries

Tax his tears.



Tax his car,

Tax his gas,

Find other ways

To tax his azz.



Tax all he has

Then let him know

That you won't be done

Till he has no dough.



When he screams and hollers;

Then tax him some more,

Tax him till

He's good and sore.



Then tax his coffin,

Tax his grave,

Tax the sod in

Which he's laid...



Put these words

Upon his tomb,

'Taxes drove me

to my doom...'



When he's gone,

Do not relax,

Its time to apply

The inheritance tax.



Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

CDL license Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Dog License Tax

Excise Taxes

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel Permit Tax

Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)

Gross Receipts Tax

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax

Inventory Tax

IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Personal Property Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Service Charge Tax

Social Security Tax

Road Usage Tax

Recreational Vehicle Tax

Sales Tax

School Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone Federal Excise Tax

Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax

Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes

Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax

Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax

Telephone State and Local Tax

Telephone Usage Charge Tax

Utility Taxes

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft Registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax





STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom was able to stay home to raise the kids.


Didn’t you read the thread? You’re supposed to shut up and lick the boots of the people who create and enforce this crap.


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Old 11-26-2019, 07:28 PM   #74
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Only problem I have is the difference in assets. Someone can have a million in the stock market with no taxes, but a million in land you pay property taxes. JMO. No big deal. Sales tax is the only way to go, but the Feds will not do that.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:28 PM   #75
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So just because we have it better here than other places, it gives us no right to speak our against what is unfair treatment at the hand of OUR, The People’s government??

Sure thing.
No not at all... I prolly popped off a little strongly. Call it a bad day.
Sometimes I just get sick of all the negativity.

Accept my apologies.

It is, however, pretty well established that the Boston Tea Party was motivated by the personal financial interests of smugglers.
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"The tea party ‘should never have occurred,’ [...] ‘It’s hurt our cause, sir.’”
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:30 PM   #76
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Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his azz.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid...

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom was able to stay home to raise the kids.

Exactly! And this has fundamentally changed America. A huge part of WHY we are WHERE we are.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:49 PM   #77
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Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom was able to stay home to raise the kids.
This propaganda might be good for getting people's hair raised, but you should get your facts straight.
The national debt in 1919 was over $27 billion link and we were in a recession headed into a depression.
Mom stayed home because she couldn't get a job or vote herself any rights if she wanted to.
There was no middle class in the 20s... 60% of American families earned less than what was required to provide basic necessities. Unemployment among non-farm workers hit almost 20% in 1921.
I know, I know... nobody wants to hear the facts.
I'll move on. Y'all have fun.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:53 PM   #78
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Missouri show me the money state!
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:33 PM   #79
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Taxes have been a topic of discussion around my house lately too.

Due to taxes and insurance, our monthly mortgage has nearly doubled. (Our house is paid off in 3 more years) The tax on my house has gone up nearly 70% over the last 10 years.

We’re focused on our county taxes, and boy, is that system rigged.

The members of the appraisal board, are not voted on by the public, but rather by the people who receive those taxes.


https://youtu.be/Qj8wNAFlcEU

This guy is pretty sharp, and does a great job of explaining things. He is leading the charge to get our property taxes in Tarrant county under control.


https://www.chandlercrouch.com/election/

Any of you in Tarrant county really need to look more into this, and lend your support to help change things.



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I know taxes in general are high but Missouri is out of control. Let’s break it down.

First 35-40% right off the top. Here you go government and go ahead and send a few billion to France. No wait, for what?

Missouri has to have theirs with another 6% off the top in state income tax.

Now my $1.00 is $0.54.

Now I get to pay another $10,000 in property tax. Not really $10,000 is it? Since my $1.00 is only worth $0.54 it’s really more like $18,500 gross.

Ohhh wait! That’s not all. If you call now we will add an extra tax. How about we just call it Personal Property Tax. I know we already raped your $1.00 down to $0.54 and you paid sales tax of 9% on the vehicles you purchased bu we need a little more. How about a bill for another $4,000? By the way - after doing the math a new vehicle valued at $50,000, if kept for 10 years (in MO) would cost you $36,000 in tax.

Should we even mention sales tax?

Simply put- why am I killing myself? If you’re disabled or a veteran - fine, I got you. But really, in all seriousness how ridiculous can it get? Just flat tax us already. Greatest Country on earth? Maybe at a premium. Even after signing my body over as government property for 6 years, I still get raped, all while some lazy crack head absorbs all the perks.

Rant over....
Don't pay them.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:03 PM   #81
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Missouri show me the money state!
Amen to that and according to the government the cost of living is less than in Texas. The only real difference I noticed was housing was affordable but that was just the lube.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:13 PM   #82
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Taxes have been a topic of discussion around my house lately too.

Due to taxes and insurance, our monthly mortgage has nearly doubled. (Our house is paid off in 3 more years) The tax on my house has gone up nearly 70% over the last 10 years.

We’re focused on our county taxes, and boy, is that system rigged.

The members of the appraisal board, are not voted on by the public, but rather by the people who receive those taxes.


https://youtu.be/Qj8wNAFlcEU

This guy is pretty sharp, and does a great job of explaining things. He is leading the charge to get our property taxes in Tarrant county under control.


https://www.chandlercrouch.com/election/

Any of you in Tarrant county really need to look more into this, and lend your support to help change things.



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I’m obviously wound up as well because of recent tax bills.

Good video and Texas property taxes are crazy high.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:38 PM   #83
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You forgot health insurance. That's a hidden tax. .. Well not hidden but it is a tax.
Not just health insurance. All insurance!!
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Old 11-27-2019, 04:54 AM   #84
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Only problem I have is the difference in assets. Someone can have a million in the stock market with no taxes, but a million in land you pay property taxes. JMO. No big deal. Sales tax is the only way to go, but the Feds will not do that.
It's complicated but long story short the whole system is rigged to force more money into the stock market. It's always been that way. When one scheme stops pushing money towards the markets they start another one.

Right now IMO they are on their last leg... You're forced to invest or inflation eats you up. Can't sit cash at near 0% return, CD's was under 2% and bonds are worthless also.

Basically taxing the crap out of all savers by taking away the power to earn interest. Do the math and it's plain sick and wrong how much they're stealing.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:17 AM   #85
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I agree. House and ranch still cost about 12k in property tax. Oh but wait there is more. If your parents do well and leave you an inheritance, it gets taxed too. Even though it’s already been taxed
That is the most ridiculous tax of all. My kids will pay inheritance tax on the money my dad left me that I already paid on. Since We saved it, We paid income tax on the interest too!

Only people who have an income or retired should be allowed to vote. Every else is spending other people’s money.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:18 AM   #86
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It's complicated but long story short the whole system is rigged to force more money into the stock market. It's always been that way. When one scheme stops pushing money towards the markets they start another one.

Right now IMO they are on their last leg... You're forced to invest or inflation eats you up. Can't sit cash at near 0% return, CD's was under 2% and bonds are worthless also.

Basically taxing the crap out of all savers by taking away the power to earn interest. Do the math and it's plain sick and wrong how much they're stealing.
Yep. My plan was to obtain assets that will allow me to retire with a low income but still live comfortably. Looks that wont happen, mostly due to taxes. It will cost too much just in taxes to live here unless I sell out and buy a shack on a lot somewhere.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:27 AM   #87
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This!! If all had to pay at the end of the year and physically write a check for an absurd amount, they sure would be singing a different tune.
Yep. Same people who get excited when they get a “refund”.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:07 AM   #88
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Yep. My plan was to obtain assets that will allow me to retire with a low income but still live comfortably. Looks that wont happen, mostly due to taxes. It will cost too much just in taxes to live here unless I sell out and buy a shack on a lot somewhere.
Thats the sad part. I had the same plans, retire to the country build a modest home on a decent chunk of land and be debt free. However it might not be affordable...
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Yep. Same people who get excited when they get a “refund”.
Lol, aint that the truth. I get customers every spring that tell me how much they are getting back from the IRS.

I always think to myself why do those folks pay so much extra every year? I reckon that I can put 5000.00 in a mutual fund during the year and earn more on it than lending the gubment 5000.00
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:11 AM   #90
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Just moving to a rural area doesn’t guarantee you low taxes. Lower maybe but not low. Due to the rural school districts looking for revenue because of funding issues that is going to be a battle also. Do your research prior to choosing your homestead.
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:39 AM   #91
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Only problem I have is the difference in assets. Someone can have a million in the stock market with no taxes, but a million in land you pay property taxes. JMO. No big deal. Sales tax is the only way to go, but the Feds will not do that.
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It's complicated but long story short the whole system is rigged to force more money into the stock market. It's always been that way. When one scheme stops pushing money towards the markets they start another one.

Right now IMO they are on their last leg... You're forced to invest or inflation eats you up. Can't sit cash at near 0% return, CD's was under 2% and bonds are worthless also.

Basically taxing the crap out of all savers by taking away the power to earn interest. Do the math and it's plain sick and wrong how much they're stealing.

Worked for me. I sold 24 acres in Burnet county because of property taxes. It wasn't ag exempt. Put a good amount of the money from the land in the stock market and have made a good return on it since then. Way more than I would have made on keeping the land.

Because of property taxes, when I retire, I plan to move to a low property tax state. I see me living somewhere like Alabama or Colorado in my future. Last summer's vacation to Gulf Shores my wife and I started looking at places to go ahead and buy now. Thinking of buying a place around Gulf Shores and VRBO/AirBnB it until I retire. At a minimum, I'm moving out of Austin to a place where property values are much lower.
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:45 AM   #92
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Who all voted for the constitutional amendment (Prop 4) to prohibit a state income tax?

As long as the tax burden remains low I'd rather see an income tax than a property tax. Ain't right to see retirees on fixed incomes taxed out of their homes.
We're currently ranked 35th in total effective tax burden by state-- plenty of room for improvement!
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:49 AM   #93
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Not just health insurance. All insurance!!
I consider insurance = organized crime.

I don't want or need your protection but yet I am forced to buy it.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:17 AM   #94
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I consider insurance = organized crime.

I don't want or need your protection but yet I am forced to buy it.
What insurance are you forced to buy?
You are allowed to self insure your vehicles
You are allowed to self insure your home if it is paid off
You can now go with out health insurance
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:42 AM   #95
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Another example...

I've seen old people who owned their homes since the 50-60's that lived WAY out in the country. I mean they were at least 10-15 miles outside the city limits. Their homes were paid off for stinking 20-30 years and the city annexes them. I never understood how a city can do that, just expand their boundaries, annex and make people pay tons more in taxes.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:50 AM   #96
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What insurance are you forced to buy?
You are allowed to self insure your vehicles
You are allowed to self insure your home if it is paid off
You can now go with out health insurance
I didn't know I could self insure vehicles and home. I'll have to check those out. Thanks for the tip.
Already not doing the health insurance route. Saving money there.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:59 AM   #97
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Only people who have an income or retired should be allowed to vote. Every else is spending other people’s money.
I completely agree with this statement. Our founding fathers fought the revolution based on the concept of "No Taxation without Representation"....well I think the new motto should be "No Representation without Taxation".....meaning no welfare turds should be able to vote. Unfortunately if you want your voice heard and treated with any level of equality....its going to cost you.
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Old 11-27-2019, 12:05 PM   #98
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Yep. Same people who get excited when they get a “refund”.
That’s the time the dems were singing some time back. Orange man bad! Refunds are smaller!!
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