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Old 10-16-2017, 08:37 PM   #1
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Looking at putting gear together for a backcountry hunt next year in colorado. Been saying for 5 years that Iím gonna go and the older I get the more I realize that climbing dem der mountains ainít gonna get easier.

I have the opportunity to buy an Alps mountaineering Lynx 1 tent. Itís about 3.8 pound and is $120 new. This one was never used and I can get it for $40.

Iím not versed on tents but what say you for backpacking in September?
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:43 PM   #2
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Can't go wrong for $40, although it's not that light for the small sq. footage. Look at a Mountainsmith Mountain Shelter.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:50 PM   #3
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Three times the weight of mine but also five times less. You can always shave weight somewhere else but imo shelter is usually one of the top priorities. There are also some hardcore backcountry guys here that have tons of experience, maybe one of them will chime in and steer you in the right path. Personally I would buy it for 40 bucks just to have it. I take several fishing trips a yr where i stay in my one man because its so easy.
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mine is a cabelas brand and it believe it weights about that much and i have hiked many many miles out west. Sure a tad lighter would be better but 3.8 is really not to bad.
for the money your talking about you should not pass it up
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:56 PM   #5
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If you've never gone on a back country hunt, don't let not having the best equipment get in the way. If that is what you can afford, drop the hammer and go. Most guys upgrade equipment as they go along the way. When you are back at home, retelling stories of how you packed your elk off the mountain, nobody is gonna give you hell for having a tent that weighs 4#.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:12 PM   #6
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If you've never gone on a back country hunt, don't let not having the best equipment get in the way. If that is what you can afford, drop the hammer and go. Most guys upgrade equipment as they go along the way. When you are back at home, retelling stories of how you packed your elk off the mountain, nobody is gonna give you hell for having a tent that weighs 4#.
I would agree with this, Iíve been up there and weight is weight.fill your pack and limp with it to get in the shape you need to be. Try it and up grade later if you need. Waterproof is definitely the way you need to go, we got rained on for a few days and glad the tent with stood the down pours.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:22 PM   #7
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Start hiking or rucking with a pack heavier than what you intend to carry. That should make it easier. Also remember the air is thinner there.

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Old 10-16-2017, 09:27 PM   #8
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Depending on when you go you can go with a hammock, bivy, etc. Take a couple tarps and a sleeping bag. One for the floor and one to keep elements off you.

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Old 10-16-2017, 09:53 PM   #9
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That's a good tent. Buddy and I hunted in one similar, but 2 person and 2 vestibules last year. 80 degrees first two days and turned to 3" snow on tent. Rainfly vestibules were awesome to store boots and other small gear out of snow and not in tent. Weight was about 1lb more than that one, but for 2 people. Id almost recommend that so you have extra room to keep gear inside.

1lb honestly wasnt that big of a deal. We hiked in 3.5 miles and camped. If you get an animal your looking at way more weight. More comfortable you are, more time you will spend actually hunting.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:55 PM   #10
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I agree with the posts that say to get what you can afford and then just go. However, if you have time to search a little, I would recommend getting a 2 person tent with a vestibule that is 3.8 lbs or lighter. It is nice to have a little extra space inside your tent to move around and store a few things.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:05 PM   #11
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Ok, so Iím really debating it. Lord knows Iíd love the Big Agnes platinum hv 1 coming in at 1 lbs 7 oz with a vestibule. $499 and it could be yours!

No need for me really on a two man tent honestly. A vestibule is plenty for a pack and bow.

And Iím not sure Iíd enjoy sleeping in a bivy (coffin). Too claustrophobic! And I really donít think Iíd be happy with a simple tarp and mat on the ground for 7 days.


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For $40 you might as well get it... It might not be exactly what you need for mountain hunting but you can probably get some good use out of it. I am kind of in the same boat as you. I have been wanting to go to Colorado to hunt but stuff just seems to get in the way. This year was going to be the year until Harvey came along and I volunteered to go out there. This year I plan to hunt public land as I always do but I am going to camp out a few times. I will be trying to dial in my camping gear to some extent. As was already mentioned, start rucking now so you can see how the weight feels.
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For that weight you can rock a Kifaru tut with 3x the floor room and 2x the height.

Price wise that's a really good deal IF you can handle the highly limited space. In the end tags trump gear

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For that weight you can rock a Kifaru tut with 3x the floor room and 2x the height.

Price wise that's a really good deal IF you can handle the highly limited space


Iím m sleeping in it. Not doing jumping jacks. Lol.


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Iím m sleeping in it. Not doing jumping jacks. Lol.


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Laugh now...go nuts when you are stuck for 24 hrs in it via rain and or snow...
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Laugh now...go nuts when you are stuck for 24 hrs in it via rain and or snow...


Ahhhh. Now that sounds like a wonderful day of sleep and a book as the sound of the rain pelts the tent!


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Old 10-17-2017, 12:04 AM   #18
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Laugh now...go nuts when you are stuck for 24 hrs in it via rain and or snow...
Bingo. Or crazy weather catches you. Been there, no fun. I now carry a 5lb $800 2 man. I'll deal with the weight. If I need to go light, I have a 4 season bivy, that is also bulletproof.
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Bingo. Or crazy weather catches you. Been there, no fun. I now carry a 5lb $800 2 man. I'll deal with the weight. If I need to go light, I have a 4 season bivy, that is also bulletproof.


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Old 10-17-2017, 12:06 AM   #20
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Think I might hold out on a 3 seasons double wall tent.


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Old 10-17-2017, 12:32 AM   #21
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Three times the weight of mine but also five times less. You can always shave weight somewhere else but imo shelter is usually one of the top priorities. There are also some hardcore backcountry guys here that have tons of experience, maybe one of them will chime in and steer you in the right path. Personally I would buy it for 40 bucks just to have it. I take several fishing trips a yr where i stay in my one man because its so easy.
The big three (tent, backpack and sleeping bag) are so critical... mess these up and there is no way to cut enough other stuff to compensste. That being said, the advice above is solid. Go with what you can afford. Hyper-light gear sky-rockets in price. I learned a lot hiking the AT and the JMT and have spent about 6 months of nights in my Henry-Shires Double Rainbow TarpTent in the last year. Like what PhotonSlinger suggests, the cost was much more than even the retail of the tent you are considering, but I spent a lot of time hiking and there was no other choice. That all being said, 4 pounds is very heavy.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:34 AM   #22
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The big three (tent, backpack and sleeping bag) are so critical... mess these up and there is no way to cut enough other stuff to compensste. That being said, the advice above is solid. Go with what you can afford. Hyper-light gear sky-rockets in price. I learned a lot hiking the AT and the JMT and have spent about 6 months of nights in my Henry-Shires Double Rainbow TarpTent in the last year. Like what PhotonSlinger suggests, the cost was much more than even the retail of the tent you are considering, but I spent a lot of time hiking and there was no other choice. That all being said, 4 pounds is very heavy.


Yeah, I think Iím gonna go with a Big Agnes unless there is a better 2 pound option.


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Old 10-17-2017, 12:40 AM   #23
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Big Agnes tents are well respected. They are available at REI and are cuspy "cottage industry" grade. Several people on the hiking trails use the Copper Spur (I believe that's what it is called?). Spend a minute on the Henry Shire web-site. I think they are a bit more expensive then Big Agnes tents, but man I love mine.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:49 AM   #24
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Also, although I hiked and did not hunt (and realize hunting will result in a heavy overall pack weight), PM me if you have any questions on base pack weight...trust me, no one wants to be a gram-weenie, but a lighter base weight will make you a happier back country hunter.
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I'd buy it if I was starting out, but I must state I love my Big Agnes Fly Creek 3

You can never go too small with tents, especially ultralites.
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I'm a tarp and bag/hammock guy. Larger tents are nice but simplicity and weight means more to me. Depends on what's a luxury to you...
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I'm a tarp and bag/hammock guy. Larger tents are nice but simplicity and weight means more to me. Depends on what's a luxury to you...


Ability to be completely out of the elements including insects and not worry about damp/wet ground.


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Hammock can cover both. Net and tarp or hanging bivy.
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I'd go with a 2-3 person UL tent myself...its really nice when you're weathered in to be able to move around and get comfortable. You can also set your stuff out and keep it clean. If I end up taking peeps out hunting with me, we can divy out the tent and share the weight.

Also nice to have the space when the wife comes along


At 3 lb, 8 oz I can't complain and can find elsewhere to shed some weight for my 3 person mansion , I mean tent to come along.
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When I pack in, I use the Eureka spitfire. It is 2# 12 oz. I have lived in it for 7 days at a time between 9,000 and 11,000 feet in Colorado.

I would go for it. It looks bigger than mine.

If you want to shave weight off, go with a bivy or a hammock.
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Yea this is what my friends are using now when they hunt elk.
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Buy it. I have done several trips in a $40 A-frame i bought on Amazon. Works just fine and serves its purpose.

Went on a backcountry trip this year at around 10,000' and my buddy had this same tent. Did great for the 5 days we were there
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Iíve found a Big Agnes fly creek HV 1 and 2 on clearance. The 2 is $233. Only problem is they are yellow....


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Look at hammockforums.com. Might be surprised how people are hammock camping.

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I'm a hammock guy as well! Bought myself a Hennessey a few years ago for motorcycle trips and will never sleep on the ground again! If you've never tried one, ya should!!
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REAL TALK = you could buy it for $40 and likely double your money on ebay or the classifieds here. That's really reasonable for an ultralite tent.
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Iíve found a Big Agnes fly creek HV 1 and 2 on clearance. The 2 is $233. Only problem is they are yellow....


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You're sleeping in it, not waving it around at deer/elk. Get it if it's a good deal.
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You're sleeping in it, not waving it around at deer/elk. Get it if it's a good deal.


Lol. I hate yellow!


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Good thing you sleep with your eyes closed.


True! Wish the olive color was on sale


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Look at the Mountainsmith LT. They can usually be found under $100 and now come in green..
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I have the Alps extreme which is the 3 person version of the one you are asking about just has an extra tent pole.
http://www.alpsmountaineering.com/pr...-tents/extreme

I have hiked 20 miles on the longest trip with it in my Eberlestock J34 pack with supplies fop 4 days plus a rifle. It wasn't to heavy and works pretty good. I have camped in it from October to February with no issues. The vestibule area comes in handy to be able to leave your pack under it and give you more room inside. $40 sound like a heck of a deal. I would be all over it.
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I'd go with a 2-3 person UL tent myself...its really nice when you're weathered in to be able to move around and get comfortable. You can also set your stuff out and keep it clean. If I end up taking peeps out hunting with me, we can divy out the tent and share the weight.

Also nice to have the space when the wife comes along


At 3 lb, 8 oz I can't complain and can find elsewhere to shed some weight for my 3 person mansion , I mean tent to come along.

I agree. I would also go with a 2 man tent. I have a kuiu mountain star 2 person tent. If itís a 2 person tent Iíd hate to see the 1 person! Plus you need to get some of your gear out of the weather also. I brought my bow in with me, believe it or not mice are terrible in southern Colorado. I did t like the idea of leaving it on the ground outside the tent all night. And it rains EVERY afternoon! I think you will want more room then a 1p tent will give you.
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I agree. I would also go with a 2 man tent. I have a kuiu mountain star 2 person tent. If itís a 2 person tent Iíd hate to see the 1 person! Plus you need to get some of your gear out of the weather also. I brought my bow in with me, believe it or not mice are terrible in southern Colorado. I did t like the idea of leaving it on the ground outside the tent all night. And it rains EVERY afternoon! I think you will want more room then a 1p tent will give you.


Iíve decided on a two man. Are the mice bad about getting into food or eating into packs or into the tent?


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In my 20+ years going out west i have never had a rodent problem
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Yes they will get into your food. They chewed a hole through one of my dry bags and theyíre constantly running around the base of your tent. I always put my tent on a tarp. I could hear mice running around on it all night. Lol
Calm nights suck when you are trying to sleep you hear everything! Little wind and rain and Iíll sleep like a baby.
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Yes they will get into your food. They chewed a hole through one of my dry bags and theyíre constantly running around the base of your tent. I always put my tent on a tarp. I could hear mice running around on it all night. Lol
Calm nights suck when you are trying to sleep you hear everything! Little wind and rain and Iíll sleep like a baby.
Where are you hunting that you get mice?
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:11 PM   #50
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Yes they will get into your food. They chewed a hole through one of my dry bags and theyíre constantly running around the base of your tent. I always put my tent on a tarp. I could hear mice running around on it all night. Lol

Calm nights suck when you are trying to sleep you hear everything! Little wind and rain and Iíll sleep like a baby.


How do you combat the food issue? Hang it off the ground?


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