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Old 09-26-2017, 07:27 AM   #1
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Default NFL charges DOD and Military for tributes

So, are the military tributes the major leagues do for the military genuine or all money grabs? With the recent issues with the National Anthem and protest I looked for some clarification. What I found kind of made me upset on how much ALL major leagues are charging the military to tribute them. They charge for flyovers and singing of the Anthems in some cases and many other things. The military even has to pay the NFL to put the "support our troops" patch on the merchandise. It makes me mad, yet I am not shocked.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nat...s/201511060140
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:36 AM   #2
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So how much does the NFL pay the Airforce for each flyover?
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:55 AM   #3
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its a money grab.....
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:01 AM   #4
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So how much does the NFL pay the Airforce for each flyover?
Nothing. It's the other way around. If I had to guess the cost per flyover would be in the high 10s to 100s of thousands in taxpayer money. Source

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In 2015, Arizona Sens. Jeff Flake (R) and John McCain (R) revealed in a joint oversight report that nearly $5.4 million in taxpayer dollars had been paid out to 14 NFL teams between 2011 and 2014 to honor service members and put on elaborate, “patriotic salutes” to the military. Overall, they reported, “these displays of paid patriotism [were] included within the $6.8 million that the Department of Defense (DOD) [had] spent on sports marketing contracts since fiscal year 2012.”
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Kind of sounds like it was something that had been done briefly, was discovered to have either been in practice in some cases, or just have bad optics in others, and then had an abrupt stop put to it. Seems to me as though mistakes had been made, but have since been corrected.
I will say that the notion that anyone would require payment to show tribute to the military pizzez me off. But, it seems to be all good at this point. At least that's the way I read it. There were also at least a couple of denials of the funds being used for that purpose listed in this article too. Who knows what to believe?
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Nothing. It's the other way around. If I had to guess the cost per flyover would be in the high 10s to 100s of thousands in taxpayer money. Source
The thing about flyovers is that they don't cost any more money than would already be spent. Pilots have to get a certain amount of flight hours in the stay current as pilots. These are hours that would be put in anyway. It's just that they account for some of them in a public display as a flyover.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:24 AM   #7
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It is a form of advertising by the Armed Forces. All advertisers have to pay to play.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:26 AM   #8
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What is really bad by the NFL is all the breast cancer awareness they do to get women involved, something like only 2% of the money goes to fund research. Now that is a money grab.
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It is a form of advertising by the Armed Forces. All advertisers have to pay to play.
Yeah, when this was news....several years ago....the end result was that it was the armed forces coming to the NFL for ad time that got this ball rolling.

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Old 09-26-2017, 08:33 AM   #10
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Yeah, when this was news several years ago the end result was that it was the armed forces coming to the NFL for ad time that got this ball rolling.
Yep,it's a recruiting tool,and budgeted accordingly.

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Old 09-26-2017, 08:58 AM   #11
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It is a form of advertising by the Armed Forces. All advertisers have to pay to play.
This. It isn't like the NFL is approaching the Armed Services, then charging them. It's the other way around. I have no problem with this. Not like it's taking rifles out of soldier's hands.
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Old 09-26-2017, 09:05 AM   #12
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Yep,it's a recruiting tool,and budgeted accordingly.

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Gotcha. Hadn't thought of it like that. Makes sense ...kind of
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It is a form of advertising by the Armed Forces. All advertisers have to pay to play.
Exactly. Think how many little kids see those jets fly over and decide that's what they want to do. Or see the flag, or the men and women in uniform, and decide the military is for them.
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It's always been about the money.
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How about NASCAR? I hope the answer is free....
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God forbid anyone try to run a profitable business...
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God forbid anyone try to run a profitable business...


Evil, Greedy, Capitalist
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How about NASCAR? I hope the answer is free....



Lol


And all those stickers on the cars are free too
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The military pays for this advertisement that's made to look like some patriotic salute
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And all those stickers on the cars are free too
I don't mind STP, Bass pro, and Advocare! But not the Army!!!!
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Yea it's BS!!! So its a cover up to act like they support them
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Yea it's BS!!! So its a cover up to act like they support them
NO. The branches area coming to the NFL and saying "hey, we want to advertise for recruiting, let's negotiate a price". It's not that difficult to grasp. Every single military advertisement/poster you see is paid for.
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Yeah, exchanging money for goods and services?! OH the horror Comrade!
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NO. The branches area coming to the NFL and saying "hey, we want to advertise for recruiting, let's negotiate a price". It's not that difficult to grasp. Every single military advertisement/poster you see is paid for.
That makes sense...sort of.

My problem is it appears to be a show put on for the fans. One would think the NFL was paying the military to do the fly over.

And the negative thinking is because it's taxpayer money..So of course it would be the military paying the NFL.

It's one thing to pay for ad space in the stadium but when they fly over?
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That makes sense...sort of.

My problem is it appears to be a show put on for the fans. One would think the NFL was paying the military to do the fly over.

And the negative thinking is because it's taxpayer money..So of course it would be the military paying the NFL.
I see where you are coming from. My point is, it's the Services that are doing this. It's not like the NFL is railroading the Military. The Military has a service to sell. They advertise to gain recruits. All of these demonstrations/commercials aren't done just so people can yell "F yeah America!". It's no different than Anheuser Busch advertising during the games.

As far as the tax payer money goes, yeah I can see that, but technically that money is being used to build our military. There is far greater tax payer waste to be concerned with that goes on in the DOD.
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That makes sense...sort of.

My problem is it appears to be a show put on for the fans. One would think the NFL was paying the military to do the fly over.

And the negative thinking is because it's taxpayer money..So of course it would be the military paying the NFL.

It's one thing to pay for ad space in the stadium but when they fly over?
Those fly overs get people pumped up. Think about being young and impressionable and seeing that.
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Yea it's BS!!! So its a cover up to act like they support them
Let's all get mad before we actually figure out what's going on!!!!



Wait...what?
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