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Old 10-08-2018, 11:19 AM   #1
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Ok so after shooting the same Diamond bow and Cabela's stalker extremes for 13 years, I finally upgraded to a Triax this month. Now I'm trying to decide on arrows and I'm hoping to get some feedback from people who have a Triax and/or have used any of these arrows.

I've narrowed down my selection to either Easton Axis, Easton FMJ, Carbon Express Max Red, and maybe Carbon Express Max Hunter- still on the fence about the hunters. Or do I just keep my old stalker extremes? Now each arrow has its pros and cons and I've spent hours researching and reading reviews, but I'm still lost.

So the Axis arrows are heavier which will have better penetration and quiet my bow some, but there isn't much on the web about them. You just don't see alot of people posting or bragging.

The FMJ will be even heavier, hence more quiet and best penetration. People also seem to get good grouping with these. But my concern is the possibility of bending a shaft (which is expensive). I feel like I would have to buy an arrow spinner and be constantly testing my arrows. I've also read about a few issues with the HIT inserts.

The Max Reds seem to be grouping the best, especially out of the Triax. But they weigh less than my Stalker Extremes so i worry about penetration and noise. There are also some negative comments about them breaking more than the other arrows.

The Max Hunters are like the Axis- just not much chatter on the web about them.


Any advice or personal experience you have is greatly appreciated. Below are some of the specs on the arrows. My setup is at 70lb and 29.5" draw.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:27 AM   #2
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I shoot Maxima Reds out of my Triax. My brother shoots Gold tip kinetic pierce platinums. Those gold tips are really nice. I have had zero issues with my Maxima Reds. It all comes down to what you have confidence in.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:30 AM   #3
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None of the above, just do the Victory VAP. Deeper penetration than FMJs, sturdy, and fast. I own some just bought more.

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Old 10-08-2018, 11:33 AM   #4
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are you getting good grouping at longer distances? Also do you feel like you triax is a little louder with the reds?
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:43 AM   #5
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None of the above, just do the Victory VAP. Deeper penetration than FMJs, sturdy, and fast. I own some just bought more.

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antiparadigm, how do they penetrate better if they are lighter than FMJs?
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:46 AM   #6
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I use FMJ and Axis. I like the Axis. Mine are 510 grains. shoot really nice. Lots of great arrows out there. Day Six is making some really good arrows, but they are pricey.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:51 AM   #7
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I use FMJ and Axis. I like the Axis. Mine are 510 grains. shoot really nice. Lots of great arrows out there. Day Six is making some really good arrows, but they are pricey.
how do the axis group at longer distances?
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:55 AM   #8
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antiparadigm, how do they penetrate better if they are lighter than FMJs?
They have awesome FOC, and are thinner diameter, and have a special coating that reduces drag and friction. I have both, and shot after shot the Victory was buried in my home made target to the fletchings, sometimes further. The FMJ always about 4inches out.

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Old 10-08-2018, 11:57 AM   #9
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Heavy is only one part of the story of penetration.

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Old 10-08-2018, 11:58 AM   #10
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Victory also just released an arrow that has a carbon metal weave.

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Old 10-08-2018, 12:09 PM   #11
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ok, i might have to reconsider victory. I had looked at them a little during my research, but got distracted by other brands
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:35 PM   #12
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I think you need to shoot the ones that group the best. I can promise your bow is not loud enough to make a difference. I also think you are getting plenty of penetration on any animal in Texas. I think you may be deep diving a little to deep.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:39 PM   #13
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Practice more. Tinker less.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:42 PM   #14
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I think you need to shoot the ones that group the best. I can promise your bow is not loud enough to make a difference. I also think you are getting plenty of penetration on any animal in Texas. I think you may be deep diving a little to deep.
you and fishndude are probably right. I tend to overthink things for sure.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:47 PM   #15
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you and fishndude are probably right. I tend to overthink things for sure.
I have a lease mate and another buddy who are both very detailed people. They study every aspect of everything. So you are not alone.. I will say this personality usually goes hand in hand with a successful life.
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Old 10-08-2018, 02:32 PM   #16
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Overthinking for sure at your DW... I shoot 54lb so lower DW and have rarely ever had a pass through. So this past off season, I decided to make some changes.

I switched to Carbon Express Pile Drivers this year. My new arrows are 10.4gpi compared to my old arrows at 8.3gpi. I also switched to a fixed broadhead (Magnus Stingers) instead of expandables. Yes my arrow is moving slower now buy I shot a doe on Saturday morning and still blew right through her before she even flinched.

Shoot what groups best...

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Old 10-08-2018, 02:44 PM   #17
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With whitetail penetration is not a huge concern, it matters, but not as much as accuracy, and even speed. Even at 50 lbs you can blow through a whitetail deer if you miss the shoulder bone. If you are hunting elk or even mule deer, it ranks up higher than speed imho. Elk and muleys react slower than whitetail, but have much thicker skin and bodies.

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Old 10-08-2018, 03:03 PM   #18
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Here is a Photo I shot on my GoPro. First shot was FMJ and second the Victoy VAP. Both are very accurate. I shot them into less used areas of the target so the test would be fair.

At Texas Archery a couple of weeks ago, I was shooting 1" groups at 40 yards with my Victory's and my Martin Max33.

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Old 10-08-2018, 03:52 PM   #19
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ive been shooting axis for as long as i can remember, you may not hear much about them because they just work ie. no news is good news.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:24 PM   #20
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I was shooting the axis in mine 30 @70 but switched over to the Easton hexx in a 260 spine with 75 grains up front. They come in around 490 grains, fast and quite
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