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Old 06-13-2018, 12:21 PM   #1
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Default California going to 3 states?

I would love to see this happen.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...er-ballot.html

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Old 06-13-2018, 12:42 PM   #2
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It is extremely unlikely to pass but just the fact that they got enough signatures to be on the ballot really says something about voter dissatisfaction. The article says only 17% of people polled were in favor of a split. That amounts to 6-7 million people who are so sick of state government they are ready for drastic measures.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:53 PM   #3
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Would that give them 6 senators?
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:54 PM   #4
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wait.. what the **** happened to slicing them off and letting them all float away?
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:07 PM   #5
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Southern California would have the potential to go red huh?
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:17 PM   #6
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The Dems now in charge would draw the lines where we would end up with 6 D senators instead of just two.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:50 PM   #7
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The Dems now in charge would draw the lines where we would end up with 6 D senators instead of just two.

Northern and So Cal might get some R senators.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:07 PM   #8
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Northern and So Cal might get some R senators.
No. The bulk of the population is still in the metro areas. The way they have that divided all statewide offices should stay D.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:18 PM   #9
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Southern California would have the potential to go red huh?
I was in San Diego for 5 days last week. It was refreshing to see how patriotic it was. I know it's a military town, but it's still California.... the good part of it.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:28 PM   #10
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No. The bulk of the population is still in the metro areas. The way they have that divided all statewide offices should stay D.
Looked at population map and you are right.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:43 PM   #11
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I was in San Diego for 5 days last week. It was refreshing to see how patriotic it was. I know it's a military town, but it's still California.... the good part of it.
I lived in SD for 3 years while in the Navy.. F*** San Diego, they are just as much Californian as the rest of them, just not as rich.. The only decent area was the small sliver of a town on the coast and border called Imperial Beach. Nothing but working class people who just wanted to drink cheap beer and live by the beach.

My wife and I were talking about the state splitting, she said "if they split would you consider going back to visit?"

H3ll no, I told her SD is just as bad as LA and SF.

Grouse is right, this will just add two more dem states to the electoral.
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I lived in SD for 3 years while in the Navy.. F*** San Diego, they are just as much Californian as the rest of them, just not as rich.. The only decent area was the small sliver of a town on the coast and border called Imperial Beach. Nothing but working class people who just wanted to drink cheap beer and live by the beach.

My wife and I were talking about the state splitting, she said "if they split would you consider going back to visit?"

H3ll no, I told her SD is just as bad as LA and SF.

Grouse is right, this will just add two more dem states to the electoral.
Clearly you know better than I do. I am just basing my comment on a mere observation, and the handful of San Diegoans (?) I visited with who were happy to talk politics once they found out I was from Texas. Granted, I was on Coronado the entire time.
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:42 PM   #13
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Aint gonna happen. But stranger things have happened!
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Clearly you know better than I do. I am just basing my comment on a mere observation, and the handful of San Diegoans (?) I visited with who were happy to talk politics once they found out I was from Texas. Granted, I was on Coronado the entire time.
I was there with SCI last year.....had a wonderful time and look forward to another visit!
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:45 PM   #14
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Aint gonna happen. But stranger things have happened!


I was there with SCI last year.....had a wonderful time and look forward to another visit!
Cool! I was there on a company trip I won last year and we stayed at Hotel del Coronado. Really cool place rich in history. We had a great time!
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:48 PM   #15
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Cool! I was there on a company trip I won last year and we stayed at Hotel del Coronado. Really cool place rich in history. We had a great time!
Yep, very nice property. The wife and I went over there and hit some of the shopping and restaurants.
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Yep, very nice property. The wife and I went over there and hit some of the shopping and restaurants.
My only complaint about staying in the hotel was that I had vertigo the entire time I was inside because the floors were so old and uneven...
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:00 PM   #17
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This would give liberals an advantage in the electoral college by giving the one state of California that has 2 senators a total of 4 more senators. The representatives would probably remain the same or close to the same number. The fact that liberals are in charge out there means they will draw the lines to favor themselves. While there are conservatives out there in certain spots, and it may give them an advantage on the state or local level, it's a big disadvantage on the national level.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:12 AM   #18
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Aint gonna happen. But stranger things have happened!


I was there with SCI last year.....had a wonderful time and look forward to another visit!
Maybe your perspective is different, you did vote for Obama....


They're desperate, Calif is bankrupt and they know Trump is not going to bail them out.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:22 AM   #19
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Maybe your perspective is different, you did vote for Obama....


They're desperate, Calif is bankrupt and they know Trump is not going to bail them out.
Yep , I also voted for both Bushes twice and Reagan once in college. Let's just say, I don't run around like chicken friggin little with my feathers on fire everytime a political ploy is thrown on the table.

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Old 06-14-2018, 09:45 AM   #20
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Yep , I also voted for both Bushes twice and Reagan once in college. Let's just say, I don't run around like chicken friggin little with my feathers on fire everytime a political ploy is thrown on the table.

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What made you vote for Obama? specifically?
The promise of Hope?
The promise of Change?
The Promise of transparency?
Because he's half black?
Because he wasnt McCain?

this is a sincere question...
and any of the above ..make sense at the time... ..

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Old 06-14-2018, 10:29 AM   #21
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.........,,Let's just say, I don't run around like chicken friggin little with my feathers on fire everytime a political ploy is thrown on the table.

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When Obama got elected you sure had us fooled.....


What I want to know is how are they going to divide the 550billion in debt or are they planning to just walk away from it?

Edit:...and that's not counting the under funded state pension funds.

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Old 06-15-2018, 01:53 PM   #22
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What made you vote for Obama? specifically?
The promise of Hope?
The promise of Change?
The Promise of transparency?
Because he's half black?
Because he wasnt McCain?

this is a sincere question...
and any of the above ..make sense at the time... ..
No idea what this has to deaux with the fruit & nuts in California but
since you have only been on TBH for about a month or so I will play along. (You either are joking or experiencing early onset dementia.)
Lets see if I can entertain your boredom since I voted for President Obama once:
HOPE......WTH is that non-sense. We make our own hope in this household. We are not part of the collectivism movement. The Dems are well into that mantra and the Republicans are not far behind.
CHANGE......hum....change what? Again, we make our own changes as a family. We rise above and excel in every aspect of what we chose to pursue.....mostly the American Dream!
But it was a catchy slogan. Like "Just Do It", "Got Milk" and "Diamonds are Forever"
Transparency.....did not even know that was one of the issues. Hoover made sure that would not be the case a few decades ago. Might have missed that concern.
Because he is half black? Nope......my mother is half white! DNA is definitely changing folks opinion on all that BS......the ones willing to submit a sample......lol
Senator McCain? He was a huge disappointment as a candidate, definitely worse than GW that I supported twice. Could not articulate a vision for the nation. The GOP literally walked away from the race with that choice. I remember a lot of TBHers thinking the same about the GOP. Heck, based on current norms you know we cant have someone that was captured in a war!!!

So lets see, I voted for GW (voted for his dad twice also). After multiple wars due to bad info, ever increasing deficits, Bailing out Wall Street while citizens paid the bill, FEMA fiascos, exposing CIA agents by mistake. When it was time for the next election our choices were scarce at best and we all knew it. (kind of a theme lately)
Once the GOP campaign went negative I was out. Did I think candidate Obama was a great choice? NOPE! Did I think he would win......in a landslide? Heck NO! But it was amazing and sobering to watch folks heads explode when it did happen!
I place my citizenship bets on the constitution & bill of rights......not some person holding an office. That office holder has to work thru the House of Reps and Senators to get anything done...."Checks & Balances!" IF the constitution can survive the long line of "poor to awful" presidents we have had in our history this blip in history would be no different.

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What I want to know is how are they going to divide the 550billion in debt or are they planning to just walk away from it?

Edit:...and that's not counting the under funded state pension funds.
Hum, California political nonsense sure brings out unhappiness. The chances of them getting the 3 way split achieved is incredibly small, but like I said the first time on this thread..."stranger things have happened!" Heck, I reckon Puerto Rico would surely become a full fledged state at that point.
You may want to speak for yourself on your other oddly placed & misplaced statement. Fooling someone has never been a goal of mine....ever! Bless your heart as you are consistent in showing that you are not above acting a fool on a public forum.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:56 PM   #23
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dude.. that question was so yesterday morning..
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #24
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dude.. that question was so yesterday morning..
My bad, missed it.....been in overdrive getting ready for this NZ trip!
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:29 PM   #25
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Why can't Mexico just have California? I wouldn't mind it if we deported native Californians from other States and built a wall around it.
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Old 06-19-2018, 07:16 AM   #26
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If the people in those area want to split then let's split.
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