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Old 05-18-2018, 06:50 PM   #51
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Every school need to be more secure. The questions i have and still have not seen the answers is How did these kids get the guns into the school? Imo every school needs armed guards equipped with Automatic rifels and if a shooter survives they need to be publically executed within 30 days regardless of their age. This will slow down the nuts. Until this happens and the media continues to glorify theses cowards it will happen again.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:54 PM   #52
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I am saddened by this event in my home town.
Blake has made a good point but this is the real truth. "Until they put metal detectors up at schools & gun free zones, or actually block off the area and search everyone going in, nothing will change." Fact!
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:02 PM   #53
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Only way to stop theses shootings is to let CHL holders carry on school property and require 65% of the teachers to do the same. Problem solved over night.

The Anti-gun LWL's who demanded gun free schools when CHL permits first came out knew, and was hoping for, gunmen to shoot and kill school children at their gun free schools just so they could further their anti-gun agenda.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:19 PM   #54
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I'm a teacher. I've been using guns all my life but I don't have a ltc and don't want one. I'd do it for my school though, ASAP. Arm a teacher. They will be the first responders.

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Old 05-18-2018, 07:43 PM   #55
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I have been through lots of meetings with state police, engineers, and safety specialist about making our school safer. Pretty much a consensus if someone is willing to die, you cant keep them from attacking at a school. Best you can do is limit the damage. I believe with proper training, staff should be allowed to carry. I gladly would. Post around the buildings the staff has that option. I think that would discourage the cowards, no more shooting fish in a barrel. And if there was an event, a quick resolution may be possible
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:05 PM   #56
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30 years ago kids had access to guns and schools were less secure than they are now but, school shootings basically didn't happen. Turning schools into prisons doesn't fix the underlying problem or keep anyone safer in the long run
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:08 PM   #57
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the punishment does not fit the crime in this country !!!! examples need to be made of dritbags that do this crap . the government can give millions sometime billions of $$$ to third world crap holes on a regular basis but refuse to secure our schools and children. its to easy to blame it on the TOOLS they use . I`ll bet that the prison system in every state has a bigger budjet than the school systems . go figure !
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:09 PM   #58
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I have been through lots of meetings with state police, engineers, and safety specialist about making our school safer. Pretty much a consensus if someone is willing to die, you cant keep them from attacking at a school. Best you can do is limit the damage. I believe with proper training, staff should be allowed to carry. I gladly would. Post around the buildings the staff has that option. I think that would discourage the cowards, no more shooting fish in a barrel. And if there was an event, a quick resolution may be possible
Correct.

It is ludicrous to think you can stop a determined person with no time frame. A person on a whim like a fit of anger? Sure. Time to plan? No way.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:27 PM   #59
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While I'm not opposed to the public hanging, these kids who do this don't give a crap about the consequences. You think they don't know there's a good chance they are committing suicide by cop? Most of them have been marginalized their entire life and weren't able to fight back at any point so they are going to take down as many as they can when they decide to end it all themselves. They know they're going to get attention, even if they die in a shoot out. A public hanging would be the same effect - notoriety and revenge in the same swipe.
Agree. Public hangings would deter you and I but not the twisted individuals that are killing defenseless children.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:31 PM   #60
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30 years ago kids had access to guns and schools were less secure than they are now but, school shootings basically didn't happen. Turning schools into prisons doesn't fix the underlying problem or keep anyone safer in the long run
Turning schools into prisons would keep guns off campus.
But, it would not prevent shooting.off campus.
Problem can typically be traced back to the home
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:52 PM   #61
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This! Metal detectors at the main doors!
Metal Detectors won't do squat IMO. Most of these large high schools have more than a dozen entry points.

What is the plan when the MD goes off? Gunman has already made entry and is firing shots.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:11 PM   #62
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Blake, I spent / was stuck 6+ hours in the truck today listening to various news station & interviews...I pray Santa Fe is now the turning point & TX may actually lead the way to what I hope is a start in the right direction.


Theses are (imo) & should be considered terror attacks / addressed as such...it's going to take leadership from each local / state & Fed working together. There is no X marks the spot that works for every school unless we tear them all down & rebuild them with the same footprint / plan in regards to make them hard & that is not going to happen. There was some good discussion happening today & hope / pray we can get there ASAP.

I have one kid that has two years left in public school & to say I'm nervous being in the valley is an understatement...discussed my concerns with Michelle & she stated after Parkland our HS went from 2 unarmed security to 3 armed local PD. However, my concerns lie with size & access from 4 sides. The school encompasses 2 very large city blocks that while are completely gated off, still have & need multiple access entrances for period change for the kids to get where they need to go. IMO, we are not anywhere near hard enough to stop a determined shooter.

I don't want to be 'that Dad' as I honestly do feel what available resources are being attended to, but feel inclined to visit with admin if its only to help me sleep. If Santa Fe can be hit?? We had nut jobs back in the 80's that should not have been in school with the rest of us. I've always let mother hen take the reigns when it comes to school concerns, but this has reached a whole new level. I probably should have gone back to my tunes today after the first hour but got sucked in. I'm really spooked when I step back & consider the gaps in the layout of my old school & not sure what else to do.

While I agree nothing is fool proof, pretty comfortable gains will be made long term...what is eating at me is the short for the next two years.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:23 PM   #63
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If they would drag that kid out in front of the court house and hang him in the nearest oak tree, leave him hanging until the crows had picked his bones clean, it would give the next useless thug something to ponder.
This and never post their names or faces on TV. Just make them disappear forever.

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Old 05-18-2018, 09:30 PM   #64
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As long as God isn't allowed in schools

Until the mental health crisis is acknowledged

I see no end of these school attacks in sight




I firmly believe he farther away from the farm/ranch/rural lifestyle the farther from reality our culture becomes.
God is in every school.

Every Christian child or teacher in school is free to let their Christian light shine and minister through their actions. They can reach out to troubled peers, talk to their teachers and parents about witnessed bullying or as an administrator take appropriate actions to help bring attention to at risk children and not turn a. Blind eye to going’s On hoping that someone else will solve a problem or help a child.

So can Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics, or anybody else
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:16 PM   #65
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Blake, I believe you are on to something, especially the parenting part. As for providing security to the schools so as to stop our schools from being the soft targets that they are, I believe your suggestion is legitimate and there are many other good solutions out there, but those in charge of schools do not want to divert the necessary funds away from their pet projects and college style/size football stadiums.

One other thing that is a factor and bugs the crap out of me is the fact that we criminalize and punish kids that wind up in some kind of physical altercation because they stood up to a bully or someone who is in the wrong. I was told, just this morning by an AP at my kids school that it doesn't matter what the situation is, both parties to any fight will both be punished. I knew this was the policy prior to this meeting, have always had problem with the policy, but in light of this morning's events, it just rubbed me way too wrong. I was respectful, but told her I completely disagree with the policy and that I was not going to allow my kids to be forced to be victimized and that if they were in trouble at school for defending themselves or someone else from someone who was in the wrong, I would have their back. I'll add that I also told her that if my kid starts it, they would be severely punished. I don't put up with that and have always taught them to be kind to everyone around them.

In this environment, when we don't allow kids to stand up for themselves or for another person, we take any power the kid has away from them and put it all in the hands of teachers/administrators. This is not giving kids an opportunity to learn how to deal with adversity. Taking away their ability to defend themselves puts them in a position to always be a victim and at some point, they are going to snap. When they snap, they decide they are going to take the power back and who knows what they're going to do. Sadly in many cases lately, they are deciding to shoot up a place where they have been the victim. In their mind, consequences be ****ed. They aren't worried about it, because in their mind, if they live, they were able to inflict the pain they wanted to and if they die in the process, they don't care, because their life wasn't worth living anyway. Life as a perpetual victim is no life at all.

Sometimes you gotta punch a bully in the nose.

I'll stop before my rant gets too long. I feel like I could go on for a while about this, but I have work to do.
I have really offended a few folks when I took this position but I believe it is right. My son has told our granddaughter the same thing you said to the AP.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:46 PM   #66
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While I'm not opposed to the public hanging, these kids who do this don't give a crap about the consequences. You think they don't know there's a good chance they are committing suicide by cop? Most of them have been marginalized their entire life and weren't able to fight back at any point so they are going to take down as many as they can when they decide to end it all themselves. They know they're going to get attention, even if they die in a shoot out. A public hanging would be the same effect - notoriety and revenge in the same swipe.

He looked pretty whupped when he was Arraigned at county today. Hope he’s locked up for a long time.


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Old 05-18-2018, 10:59 PM   #67
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We can talk all day about metal detectors, armed people in schools, schools that are on total lockdown all day every day, etc.... What I want to know is what is happening to our society and way of life? Why is our society so sick? Are we raising generations of sociopaths? What is the root cause of this illness that we are infected with?

I have plenty of ideas of what's wrong with our children. It is just hard to fathom how far we have fallen even since the 80's/90's. I was in high school in the 90's, graduated in '95. Pre cell phone, internet, social media, etc.... I would have never even thought something like this was possible when I was in school. What has happened over the last 20-30 years to make it possible for these things to become so common?
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:42 PM   #68
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Quit glorifying it and keep it off of the **** news. All these little sick turds want is attention and they’re getting it.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:49 PM   #69
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Bring God back into schools. Say the pledge of allegiance and be proud of it. Have family movie night and eat dinner as a family. Ask your kids how their day was. Be a parent not just a friend, and dont be afraid to use a belt.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:09 AM   #70
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Most of what everyone has posted already I agree with. All these things are the symptoms not the problem. The problem with this and with the decay of society in general is one word. Satan! Where God is not welcome Satan will thrive and he is good at filling our hearts with evil just a tiny bit at a time. We have let God be removed from schools, sports, politics, movies, family institutions and most other aspects of our lives. From the movies we watch, the games we play, the social media we consume and the politics we are filling our minds with garbage every day and letting our hearts grow cold. Satan has taught us all how to be self centered. That’s why so many parents don’t spend time with their kids. To busy seeking their own pleasure. It’s easier to dope a kid than to spend the time and discipline to help him/her learn how to cope with life. It’s better for the doc’s finances to prescribe a pill. It’s easier for the school counselor to excuse the behavior rather than face an angry parent. That kid with the now twisted mind says “I was wronged so I will feel better if I make someone else hurt. “. That kid that Satan has fed a steady diet of evil from movies, video games to social media now has a heart so cold and evil that he will do anything to anyone for his own “needs”.

The only way to fight evil is with good and the only way to fight Satan is with God. No amount of guards and protection or anything man can do will completely prevent evil from happening. We must ask Jesus back into our everyday lives and stop letting our souls be filled with the evils of this world.

Not saying it’s as simple as inviting God back and that we shouldn’t try to fix the problems we see. We do need to do many of the things already suggested here. I want to arm well trained teachers. My daughter is one. Definitely more armed guards and stop advertising as gun free zones. Post that this school is armed and ready to defend any attack. Never show face or mention name of the evil killers until they are hanging in a tree. Spend more time with our kids and less on the phone and tv. There is a lot we can do but most is pray for our nation.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:24 AM   #71
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Allow people to carry in school. Killers go in to these places because nobody will kill them back. If someone was shooting at me I wouldn't want to wait even 5 minutes for someone to come by with their gun and take care of the problem.

I watched a house across the street from my high school burn down during after school suspension once. Sometimes help really isn't much help when it shows up. They just come clean up the mess when the smoke clears.

The problem is the parents in my opinion. For example the kids that shot up Columbine. If your kids are writing down sick thoughts and making movies to scare their classmates or making pipe bombs and sawing the barrels off of shotguns in the garage you might want to ask a few questions or pay closer attention to what's going on. That's a pretty good sign a kid needs to be medicated or put in a room in a penitentiary where they can fantasize about murdering people and not actually have the means to do it.

Violent movies,video games or music aren't the problem I'm convinced of that. I liked all of that when I was a kid and I had access to firearms. I never threatened to go to school or anywhere else to kill people. Because I was raised by people that would kick my *** if I even thought about it. I mean that literally. I ain't talking about a paddle to the butt. My grandpa is the type of guy that would have heard that nonsense but one time and I'd be picking myself up off the ground.

But I was raised differently. I was treated as an adult to some degree from a young age. I knew what death was and that guns would be a quick way to get that way. I still remember my brother and I playing in the basement and a shotgun was leaning in the corner. My grandpa said "You boys don't pick that shotgun up,it's loaded. If it goes off and you're in front of it you'll die." Now days kids go get guns out of curiosity and they don't understand the repercussions of pulling the trigger. They don't have respect for human life because nobody has enough respect for them to teach them right from wrong.

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Old 05-19-2018, 09:51 AM   #72
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country concerts, boston marathon,military base,gay bar in florida,schools, new york sidewalks,airports, pentagon,twin towers.
no matter where you are, or what preparations you make, some evil piece of trash can harm you.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

enjoy your freedom while you still have it.
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:25 AM   #73
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If they would drag that kid out in front of the court house and hang him in the nearest oak tree, leave him hanging until the crows had picked his bones clean, it would give the next useless thug something to ponder.
This and outlaw the media from covering the story. That gives the cowards the attention the crave.

Allow the schools to inform parents but stop the 24 hour news circus.

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Old 05-19-2018, 12:30 PM   #74
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As much as i despise the media... first amendment is pretty important.
Amd..it is the first thing us non-leos look to for information... hopefully most of us look at many sources and try to parse a glimmer of fact out of all the data available..

Now rules, concerning murderers names , being stricken from all media , writing them out of history would be nice.. but that would be impossible.

I want this guy forgotten. I want no one to repeat his name.
Since for some ****in stupid federal law hes not eligible for the death penalty..i want him to be thrown in gen pop with the roughest group ever and subjected to real bullies who will dismantle him in every conceivable manner possible every second of every minute of the rest of his life.
He wanted attention.
Give it to him.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:37 PM   #75
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Can u get a gun into an airport? Very hard. It's sad, but schools need to be set up the same. The only way I see it.

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Old 05-19-2018, 01:11 PM   #76
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Yep. It’s time to get extreme with how we handle these oxygen thiefs.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:48 PM   #77
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If they would drag that kid out in front of the court house and hang him in the nearest oak tree, leave him hanging until the crows had picked his bones clean, it would give the next useless thug something to ponder.
Set them on fire before they find the end of the wire rope. Let them know what hell is going to feel like before they arrive in a few moments.....put that on youtube for all to see, maybe just maybe the parents would cringe at the though of that happening to their child and try to change things at home where the problem started in the first place.
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I walked around in a major airport this week for an hour or more with a concealed handgun.

It wasn’t so hard. I walked in the front door.
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We are here again aren't we? After Parkland, I posted here with thoughts on ways to make the changes and fund them. I got absolutely hammered for it. I have nothing further to add, except...

It is time to put up or shut up. How many of us assembled outside our kids or grandkids schools after the most recent shooting and demanded action in the form of "hardening our schools"? Becuase it is time to stop *****-footing around and demand it happen.

Anything of value demands protection. We guard our money like it is the most important thing in the world. Well, it isn't.

The kids are going to assmeble and demand gun control. Hell, Boulder Colorado has recently banned the sale of assault rifles and high capacity magazines, with an order that owners must register theirs by a certain date. Don't think it can't happen, it already is. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows it's not the gun, it's the person.

We cannot fix bad parenting by other folks. We cannot make them seek religion. We cannot stop bad people from trying to do bad things. All we can do is make it more difficult for them and ensure they get an immediate consequence in the form of armed personnel who will immediately engage and eliminate the threat.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:44 PM   #80
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Teachers have no need packing guns...good grief they have enough to watch over. There needs to be personal and policy in place that checks every person going in...it really isn’t that hard an symptom to stop.

What do you do when they pull up and open fire on the line to get in school?

Have a resource officer there with a long gun ready to engage...

As long as the gun is to blame society will miss the mark on addressing the issue.
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As long as the gun is to blame society will miss the mark on addressing the issue.

Tried many times to post something of value but I couldn’t have said it better myself.



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Teachers have no need packing guns...good grief they have enough to watch over. There needs to be personal and policy in place that checks every person going in...it really isn’t that hard an symptom to stop.

What do you do when they pull up and open fire on the line to get in school?

Have a resource officer there with a long gun ready to engage...

As long as the gun is to blame society will miss the mark on addressing the issue.


It depends on the teacher. No one is advocating they be forced to carry them. But if they have the sheepdog mentality and want to do it, why not?


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Any of you guys over 40, tell me how many school shootings we had growing up and I’ll show you kids who had the fear of God and schools who still allowed him through the front door. If they don’t let God back in, they’ll never get the evil out.
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It depends on the teacher. No one is advocating they be forced to carry them. But if they have the sheepdog mentality and want to do it, why not?
Mikey, I heard a report The very teacher next door to the art room when it all started was a former Marine...he locked down his class and saved his students, but suspect he could have very well neutralized the situation on the front end if the law had allowed!!
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Agreed...probably close to 60 teachers on my wife’s camps....not a one that needs to be packing. No way a teacher would be able to watch 27 screaming crying kids and be able to make appropriate decisions....the wrong person gets popped and that teacher is hung out to dry.

Arming teachers is not the answer in my opinion...prevention should start at the front door...but that’s just my opinion.

Man get have been a few parents get it this past year with the way they acting
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A system needs to be put in place to ensure no weapons make their way onto school campuses. I dont have all the answers. Im not that smart. I just like to point out the obvious with hopes of raising awareness.


My response wasn’t warranted the way is was presented and I apologize.

My point was really meant to be more along the lines of guns are already illegal as is murder/attempted murder. More laws/restrictions on law abiding folks won’t fix this.

What has more of a chance of fixing it is to get rid of all these feel good gun free zones and start arming qualified people on these campuses.

Generally just get rid of all of these nut job liberal policies and ideologies that abound these days. It’s making our society worse, not better.


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Old 05-20-2018, 04:01 AM   #87
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It depends on the teacher. No one is advocating they be forced to carry them. But if they have the sheepdog mentality and want to do it, why not?


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I have never understood the “they have enough to worry about” stance.

What are they worried about when they hear gunshots in the hallway?
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Can u get a gun into an airport? Very hard. It's sad, but schools need to be set up the same. The only way I see it.

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Airport monitoring systems also stops knives, pointed metal objects, small pocket knifes, nail clippers, clubs, harmful liquids, and all others items designed to cause harm.

Don't understand why there would be opposition to this type of monitoring system when it is already accepted throughout society.
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Great points Blake. So many issues, no single answer. My emotional response is to hang the SOB in public, but that just fuels the fire. I am convinced that private schools that get security right will thrive in the future. This is a long term problem that will take a huge amount of effort.
Some key issues:
Absentee parents (guilty). Divorce, lack of moral character, and or the need for both parents to work are some of the things that drive this.
Lack of focus on school curriculum that matters (respect for others, consequences of your actions, effort is an equalizer,) you know, things taught in Sunday school.
A media that sensationalizes evil and makes a mockery of character.
Potential solutions:
Prayer, we need more of it.
Armed teachers. Yes there are some that would qualify and should be encouraged to carry.
School marshals like air marshals. Costs money, what do we give up?
Outreach programs for at risk kids.
Frank discussions about mental health, and overmedication of our children.
Political accountability, elected officials find solutions or be fired.
Law enforcement being able to do their job. Quit tying their hands.
Did I mention prayer?
Ultimately you cant stop it, but you can lesson the opportunity and the overall carnage.
God bless all of those affected by this senseless crap.

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I was bullied a lot when I was in middle school and high school but I had no access to a firearm, zero access.
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Quit glorifying it and keep it off of the **** news. All these little sick turds want is attention and they’re getting it.
This is what experts on Mass Murders are saying. Sensationalizing these acts are breeding copy cat killers. This latest POS was following something similar to Columbine.
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This is what experts on Mass Murders are saying. Sensationalizing these acts are breeding copy cat killers. This latest POS was following something similar to Columbine.
In the movie G I Jane there is a Navy captain talking to a senator on the phone as she is complaining about people standing on a public roadway have taking pictures. His response is appropriate here. He said there is no problem doing that,...... “just trim a little fat off the Constitution”.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the filth our youths have access to. Video games, Movies, TV shows and Music are polluted with violence.

I agree with others that God needs to be brought back into schools and Society in general.
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I have never understood the “they have enough to worry about” stance.

What are they worried about when they hear gunshots in the hallway?
Every managed a classroom with 25-27 5 year olds?

My wife is veteran teacher...probably one if rhe best teachers in the satae ( and i am not biased) and she thinks a gun in the hands of teachers is a bad idea. Or at least on the little kids campusess.
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any of ya'll old enough to remember when we brought our guns to school (deer rifles), mounted in the back glass of our pick-up, no one was stolen from, and no one got shot!

so what's so different now.... hmmmm lets see if we can figure it out.
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Every managed a classroom with 25-27 5 year olds?



My wife is veteran teacher...probably one if rhe best teachers in the satae ( and i am not biased) and she thinks a gun in the hands of teachers is a bad idea. Or at least on the little kids campusess.


Respecting your wife’s opinion- what does she believe is the solution?


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It’s bad...and as the current crop of parents pop up....only worse. Systemic is the word she uses.

As a believer she affirms that Jesus is truly the ultimate answer but because we live in a broken world...broken studs happens. Honestly..school administrators and local governments have the ability to participate in a lot of proactive measure, but are more focus on tests and football scores.
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Every managed a classroom with 25-27 5 year olds?



My wife is veteran teacher...probably one if rhe best teachers in the satae ( and i am not biased) and she thinks a gun in the hands of teachers is a bad idea. Or at least on the little kids campusess.


There are many schools in Texas where teachers are already armed.

Again, if the teacher has the right mindset it should be a viable option.


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I'm not sure about all of them but I know for a fact in our area some of the alternative schools you get sent to if your caught with drugs on campus, fight too much etc have metal detectors. They're already in those schools.
Why can't we have them in all of them? I'm all for freedom but this is a recurrent problem. They are going to say it costs too much but seriously looking at the small community of tbh who that has kids(or doesn't) wouldn't donate to help this cause if that's truly the issue. I don't have an answer as there is no perfect one but this is our kids generation shouldn't we be the ones responsible for protecting them? Heck why not have a community of volunteers that are trained that rotate and work the metal detectors (I know that would open a whole new can of worms) but they could be trained, have background checks etc. And would cut down on cost. We can get volunteers for PTA, crossing guards, band mom's etc. I'm pretty sure we could get a crew willing to go through whatever trining they deemed necessary and a background check to man a metal detector and wouldn't cost the schools a dime. It wouldn't fix it 100% but would definitely be a deterrent. I'd volunteer for my community pay my own training etc. Im sure the response would be large enough they'd have to turn people away

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It should be impossible to access any school building without going through a manned metal detector.
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There are many schools in Texas where teachers are already armed.

Again, if the teacher has the right mindset it should be a viable option.


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I agree...I told her a m4 above the door and teachers trained to man their room and theirs only...

I think with proper training a qrf could on each campus would squash this because the ones doing it are cowards.

Then again teachers ain’t what they were 20 years ago either she said
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