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Old 12-07-2017, 10:35 PM   #601
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Ah very nice. Spikes only?


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Old 12-07-2017, 10:41 PM   #602
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I emailed the LEO out there and he replied. Apparently spikes are legal from Jan 8th through the 21st.

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Old 12-07-2017, 10:59 PM   #604
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:40 AM   #605
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True spikes(not unbranded on one side) are the only legal game during the special late season. So three pointers and does are off the menu. Surprisingly enough there is very little pressure during that time, and quite a lot of branched antlered buck roaming around.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:53 AM   #606
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True spikes(not unbranded on one side) are the only legal game during the special late season. So three pointers and does are off the menu. Surprisingly enough there is very little pressure during that time, and quite a lot of branched antlered buck roaming around.
The TPWD website specifically says unbranched antlered bucks. Then goes on to define this as Ēany buck with with an antler having no more than one pointĒ. I read that as fork horn on one side and spike on the other is legal. Are you sure when you say TRUE spike? Not trying to argue just want to make sure I'm doing everything by the book. Thanks!

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Old 12-08-2017, 01:20 PM   #607
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I'm heading up. Is anybody else around this afternoon or evening?


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Old 12-08-2017, 01:25 PM   #608
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:48 PM   #609
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The TPWD website specifically says unbranched antlered bucks. Then goes on to define this as ”any buck with with an antler having no more than one point”. I read that as fork horn on one side and spike on the other is legal. Are you sure when you say TRUE spike? Not trying to argue just want to make sure I'm doing everything by the book. Thanks!

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I read it as "unbranched antler buck." If one side is forked, then it's not an unbranched antler buck. I believe bowhuntntexn has it right.

Edit to say I just reread it and now I'm uncertain. It does say "For seasons listed below......" which says AT LEAST ONE UNBRANCHED ANTLER. No wonder people get confused on game laws. Could be by design, I don't know.

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I read it as "unbranched antler buck." If one side is forked, then it's not an unbranched antler buck. I believe bowhuntntexn has it right.

Edit to say I just reread it and now I'm uncertain. It does say "For seasons listed below......" which says AT LEAST ONE UNBRANCHED ANTLER. No wonder people get confused on game laws. Could be by design, I don't know.
Yes I do believe that if you were getting technical the way it currently reads then as long as one side has no more than 1 point you're good. But if that was not the intention then I don't want to go out there and play naive either. I may email the LEO again for further clarification.

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As per the federal game warden, spikes only. No branched antler allowed. Just because a buck with one branched and one unbramched antler is legal for Wise county AR restrictions, they are not legal for the LBJ special late season.

I sure would hate for you to get in a bind by shooting the wrong deer out there.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:11 PM   #612
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As per the federal game warden, spikes only. No branched antler allowed. Just because a buck with one branched and one unbramched antler is legal for Wise county AR restrictions, they are not legal for the LBJ special late season.

I sure would hate for you to get in a bind by shooting the wrong deer out there.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:12 PM   #613
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As per the federal game warden, spikes only. No branched antler allowed. Just because a buck with one branched and one unbramched antler is legal for Wise county AR restrictions, they are not legal for the LBJ special late season.



I sure would hate for you to get in a bind by shooting the wrong deer out there.


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Old 12-08-2017, 05:13 PM   #614
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https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/o.../counties/wise


Special Late Jan. 8 - 21, 2018


Special Late Season: During the Special Late Season, harvest is restricted to antlerless deer and unbranched antlered bucks. An unbranched antlered buck is any buck deer with an antler having no more than one point
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:17 PM   #615
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So, the way I read it is I can only shoot unbranched bucks in the late season even if I haven't killed a 13" or wider buck this season. The youth only doesn't specify what they can take...so can my 11 yo take either/or?
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:19 PM   #616
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So, the way I read it is I can only shoot unbranched bucks in the late season even if I haven't killed a 13" or wider buck this season. The youth only doesn't specify what they can take...so can my 11 yo take either/or?
When the LEO out there replied to me he said youth hunters can take does or bucks. If you'd like pm me your email address and I can forward you our conversation.

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Old 12-08-2017, 05:21 PM   #617
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:08 AM   #618
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Where can I find a map of the hunting zones for LBJ?
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:00 PM   #619
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Where can I find a map of the hunting zones for LBJ?


Google search usually pulls up some decent images where people have scanned the map and posted it on the web.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:04 PM   #620
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:24 PM   #621
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So everything in green in hunt able?
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:26 PM   #622
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Correct. You can get a physical copy at the office.


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Old 12-09-2017, 01:27 PM   #623
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Yes, except Unit 47 around Black Creek Lake.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:32 PM   #624
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Thanks Froggy, looks like I have some scouting todo!
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:07 PM   #625
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In he last week of hunting, have found 2 pop up blinds, one on unit 41, one on unit 60. Looked in the one on 41, full of cigarette buts, must have been there for a while. Did not have a chance to report them, office closed by the time I quit hunting.
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In he last week of hunting, have found 2 pop up blinds, one on unit 41, one on unit 60. Looked in the one on 41, full of cigarette buts, must have been there for a while. Did not have a chance to report them, office closed by the time I quit hunting.


I have found 2 ladder stands on 41. Where was the pop up near? I hunt 41. No it's not mine


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As you get close to Hopewell cemetary, there is a main parking place where you enter through a wooden gate, walk all the way down and it is on the left. I would take them down myself, but to me it would be stealing, and I have no use for one anyway...
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As you get close to Hopewell cemetary, there is a main parking place where you enter through a wooden gate, walk all the way down and it is on the left. I would take them down myself, but to me it would be stealing, and I have no use for one anyway...


I was just more curious than anything. I have been hunting 41 for the past 3 weeks


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Old 12-10-2017, 08:49 AM   #629
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Set up a new spot...trail cam pics confirmed presumed activity. No shooters, dang it.
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I'm a newbie to deer hunting. All I have to hunt is the Grasslands. I have a question that is a super wet behind the ears question. Before I ask the question I'll say I have done my research and have done my scouting. I understand the respect to be paid to other hunters on public land and all of the rules and regulations. I believe I have most of that covered, at least I hope so and feel anything else I haven't known to cover I can chalk up to experience in a positive light.

When is it appropriate during a hunt to take a coyote and if and when you do, what do you need to do with it? What should you do with it?

Yes I know you can take them but I have found a kind of blank spot of info on when you should decide to shoot one and what is custom to do with it afterward.

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I'm a newbie to deer hunting. All I have to hunt is the Grasslands. I have a question that is a super wet behind the ears question. Before I ask the question I'll say I have done my research and have done my scouting. I understand the respect to be paid to other hunters on public land and all of the rules and regulations. I believe I have most of that covered, at least I hope so and feel anything else I haven't known to cover I can chalk up to experience in a positive light.

When is it appropriate during a hunt to take a coyote and if and when you do, what do you need to do with it? What should you do with it?

Yes I know you can take them but I have found a kind of blank spot of info on when you should decide to shoot one and what is custom to do with it afterwards .
You can shoot one any time you want to, and you can do whatever you would like with it. Meaning there is no custom or etiquette to follow, especially for predators.
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Old 12-12-2017, 06:37 AM   #633
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Set up a new spot...trail cam pics confirmed presumed activity. No shooters, dang it.
i have a pretty good idea where that is and i think it only holds young deer.

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Old 12-12-2017, 06:39 AM   #634
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As you get close to Hopewell cemetary, there is a main parking place where you enter through a wooden gate, walk all the way down and it is on the left. I would take them down myself, but to me it would be stealing, and I have no use for one anyway...
If it is a ground blind leave it if it is any kind of tree stand mark your gps coordinates and report to the game warden.

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Old 12-12-2017, 06:40 AM   #635
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Believe it or not there is alot of people that loose there treestand or ground blind cause they dont mark it on maps and dont remember how to get back to them.

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I'm a newbie to deer hunting. All I have to hunt is the Grasslands. I have a question that is a super wet behind the ears question. Before I ask the question I'll say I have done my research and have done my scouting. I understand the respect to be paid to other hunters on public land and all of the rules and regulations. I believe I have most of that covered, at least I hope so and feel anything else I haven't known to cover I can chalk up to experience in a positive light.

When is it appropriate during a hunt to take a coyote and if and when you do, what do you need to do with it? What should you do with it?

Yes I know you can take them but I have found a kind of blank spot of info on when you should decide to shoot one and what is custom to do with it afterward.


Many people will shoot any and all predators they get an opportunity at.

The only time I donít is if I feel I am close enough to buck bedding that I canít get away with the noises made.


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Old 12-12-2017, 11:57 AM   #637
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When the LEO out there replied to me he said youth hunters can take does or bucks. If you'd like pm me your email address and I can forward you our conversation.

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Juts some follow up direct from the game warden:

Jan 8-21
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Youth can take doe, 13" or wider buck, or TRUE spike. (one un- branched antler on either side). A buck with one unbranched antler and 2-3-4-5-6 pts etc on the other side is NOT legal to take.

Adults can take TRUE SPIKE ONLY. (one unbranched antler either side)
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Juts some follow up direct from the game warden:

Jan 8-21
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Youth can take doe, 13" or wider buck, or TRUE spike. (one un- branched antler on either side). A buck with one unbranched antler and 2-3-4-5-6 pts etc on the other side is NOT legal to take.

Adults can take TRUE SPIKE ONLY. (one unbranched antler either side)
Thanks for looking into. I never received a response from LEO. Hopefully looking to get a buck down before then. Found a new spot and hung a camera last weekend. We'll see how that goes.


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This is off the TPWD website, I think they changed the definition a little this season because it caused so much confusion...

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I don't get why this is so difficult to understand. Pictures 1, 2 and 3 are legal for both archery only and general season. Pic 2 is the only legal one during the special late season.

Granted all 3 are still legal for youth hunting, but no does for anyone during the special late season, or non thanksgiving weekend of general season.
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I don't get why this is so difficult to understand. Pictures 1, 2 and 3 are legal for both archery only and general season. Pic 2 is the only legal one during the special late season.

Granted all 3 are still legal for youth hunting, but no does for anyone during the special late season, or non thanksgiving weekend of general season.
Because of the wording itself. It says one unbranched antler on EITHER side. If it was a true spike, it should say unbranched antler on BOTH sides.
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I don't get why this is so difficult to understand. Pictures 1, 2 and 3 are legal for both archery only and general season. Pic 2 is the only legal one during the special late season.

Granted all 3 are still legal for youth hunting, but no does for anyone during the special late season, or non thanksgiving weekend of general season.
Agree on most of what you said, but Wise County Game Warden advised yesterday that on LBJ Grasslands, during the special late season, youth can legally take doe deer as well as 13" (pic one) and true spike (pic 2).

That's why its hard to fully understand. Different info in different places. I'm going with the GW/Wise County.
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Because of the wording itself. It says one unbranched antler on EITHER side. If it was a true spike, it should say unbranched antler on BOTH sides.
Just in case...You may be referring to my quote which included the "EITHER side"... I reread that one last night and thought hmmm, that might not be as clear as the GW intended. What the GW said was a "true spike": one unbranched antler on both sides. I also took that to mean if there was one unbranched antler on one side and no antler at all on the other, then this too would be a legal take.
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Just re-read the late season regs, and it says antlerless and unbranched antlered bucks. So yes, it's plain to see that means a true spike.
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Just re-read the late season regs, and it says antlerless and unbranched antlered bucks. So yes, it's plain to see that means a true spike.


Special Late Season During the Special Late Season, harvest is restricted to antlerless deer and unbranched antlered bucks. An unbranched antlered buck is any buck deer with an antler having no more than one point.

It doesnít say both antlers
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Special Late Season During the Special Late Season, harvest is restricted to antlerless deer and unbranched antlered bucks. An unbranched antlered buck is any buck deer with an antler having no more than one point.

It doesnít say both antlers
One way to find out for sure. I know how I read it.
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For archery and general season it states "at least one unbranched antler".

For late season it states "unbranched antlered buck".

Either way, I know what I'm NOT shooting.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:36 AM   #649
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Special Late Season During the Special Late Season, harvest is restricted to antlerless deer and unbranched antlered bucks. An unbranched antlered buck is any buck deer with an antler having no more than one point.

It doesnít say both antlers


Iím gonna stick with the direct quote from the federal game warden...


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Old 12-15-2017, 11:24 AM   #650
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