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Old 08-02-2018, 08:34 AM   #701
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This is our third year, and we have a single trail cam picture with a hog, come to think about it, it looks a lot like the dude you have on cam. Fingers crossed it stays that way, although I think Philip's fence maintenance along with Jasper and his brothers will keep that place relatively varmint free.

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Man we have quite a few pigs on the west side of Water valley. Starting to get pretty common out there.

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Old 08-02-2018, 11:08 AM   #702
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:24 PM   #703
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Have a few showing up. Nothing crazy yet. Missing a couple we were looking for from last year. Not sure where they are. Drought has definitely done some damage in our area.




















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Old 08-03-2018, 07:34 PM   #704
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That buck with the extras around the g3’s is a cool one. Glad we finally got some rain here recent...It’s been crazy, scary dry since December, otherwise.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:38 PM   #705
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Old 08-07-2018, 01:11 PM   #706
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:22 AM   #707
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Still some nice deer, even with the dry conditions
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:26 AM   #708
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Getting some good rain right now in knickerbocker.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:02 PM   #709
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2” rain NW Irion Co
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:14 PM   #710
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Farm logs says we got a quarter between 4 and 5 am. Hopefully they got more.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:04 PM   #711
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Man we have quite a few pigs on the west side of Water valley. Starting to get pretty common out there.

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Old 08-09-2018, 03:08 PM   #712
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I'm liking this guy...I think he's young but looking good.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:17 PM   #713
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Dang cripp that’s a solid buck there, lots of character.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:57 PM   #714
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I'm liking this guy...I think he's young but looking good.
Great looking deer. Nothing about him looks young to me though.....You obviously know your deer better then anyone but I would put him at 5 from the limited amount I can see, no younger then 4.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:51 PM   #715
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I'm liking this guy...I think he's young but looking good.
Thats a really cool buck. He looks good!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:16 PM   #716
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Great looking deer. Nothing about him looks young to me though.....You obviously know your deer better then anyone but I would put him at 5 from the limited amount I can see, no younger then 4.
You typed what I was thinking.....ha very solid deer.

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Old 08-09-2018, 08:33 PM   #717
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Great looking deer. Nothing about him looks young to me though.....You obviously know your deer better then anyone but I would put him at 5 from the limited amount I can see, no younger then 4.
Agree with you, absolutely no younger than 4 but I’d say 5.


Wes is he a main frame 8 with kickers? Do you have any full non zoomed pics you can post?
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:43 PM   #718
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From the one pic the deer looks 6+ to me.


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Old 08-09-2018, 08:44 PM   #719
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:44 AM   #720
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Agree with you, absolutely no younger than 4 but Id say 5.


Wes is he a main frame 8 with kickers? Do you have any full non zoomed pics you can post?
This is the only picture I have of this deer, we just put cameras out. He's definitely 4 years old, and probably a little older, just need to see him in person.

A little history on this place, this is our third year. The year before we got on it wasn't hunted but we suspect in the year before that the previous lessee's wiped out all of the bucks based on the doe and 2 year old buck numbers we saw our first year. We haven't shot anything but does and cull bucks (no brow tines, 4 year old 7 points or less, etc.) trying to keep the numbers in check. I made a mistake on a "cull" wide 9 pointer last year that I thought was 5 years old but consensus among the members determined he was probably only 4 - see pics below.

I think the amount of protein we feed gives these deer bigger bodies than what I'm used to growing up hunting the hill country. We'll see if we can get some better pictures.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:51 AM   #721
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We have a helicopter survey scheduled for next Friday the 16th, I'm looking forward to gaining a ton of useful information from the biologist we can use to set informed goals.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:22 PM   #722
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I cant wait to get out to my place and check the Cams and set up my last stand. Looks like Sept 3rd is next chance ill be able to do so.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:40 PM   #723
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Any live pics on that 9?
I don't see 4.5 on him but always hard to tell on ground pics like that.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:43 PM   #724
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I don't think I could make an argument for 6+ based off that 1 pic.

He is a solid buck and I'd lean 4+ but I'd have to see more pics to make a kill/no kill decision.

The discussion is good to have tho
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:07 PM   #725
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Any live pics on that 9?
I don't see 4.5 on him but always hard to tell on ground pics like that.
I do somewhere Jack, I'll have to look. He ran around with two known 3 year olds and probably had 40 - 50 pounds on those deer. There's no debate between the members that he was at least 4. Seemed like a good cull buck when he came strolling in. Looking back I wish I would have left him alone, but it's part of the learning process.
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I don't think I could make an argument for 6+ based off that 1 pic.

He is a solid buck and I'd lean 4+ but I'd have to see more pics to make a kill/no kill decision.

The discussion is good to have tho
We are all in agreement that for now this buck gets a pass this year. May change after we get the results of the survey and eyes on him in person.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:11 PM   #727
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I do somewhere Jack, I'll have to look. He ran around with two known 3 year olds and probably had 40 - 50 pounds on those deer. There's no debate between the members that he was at least 4. Seemed like a good cull buck when he came strolling in. Looking back I wish I would have left him alone, but it's part of the learning process.
For sure, thats why the trail cam pics are so important if you really want to manage. Lots of times when a good buck rolls in my blood gets pumping and if I don't already have some kind of idea on age its hard to make that call in the stand. Some bucks I can't tell until I see them interact with others and how they walk. You def have some good deer to work with there.
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For sure, thats why the trail cam pics are so important if you really want to manage. Lots of times when a good buck rolls in my blood gets pumping and if I don't already have some kind of idea on age its hard to make that call in the stand. Some bucks I can't tell until I see them interact with others and how they walk. You def have some good deer to work with there.
Here's a live picture of him, tell me what you see. I'm not too proud to admit I made a mistake Everyone was fine, we knew we had to kill a bunch of deer and we had been wearing the does out. Plenty of bigger bucks out there.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:30 PM   #729
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Here's a live picture of him, tell me what you see. I'm not too proud to admit I made a mistake Everyone was fine, we knew we had to kill a bunch of deer and we had been wearing the does out. Plenty of bigger bucks out there.
What time of year is that pic from?

A biologist told a friend of mine regarding their lease in south Texas (big **** low fence place) that if they weren't making mistakes on age 20% of the time they weren't shooting enough cull bucks.

The ones you really don't want to pop are the young giants.
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nothing about that deer really says 4.5 to me. girth is full front of shoulders to rump. Has a full rippled look showing very little if any muscle definition in shoulders, neck ties straight into point of brisket. Slight sag in back and also looking at the truck bed pic appears to have very large callouses on front knees. If this pic is any earlier than mid november I'd say 5+ pretty easily.

I do like his frame but since he was barley a main frame 9 I see no prob with shooting that deer. Looks like a solid management buck to me. Especially if you have better younger 10pnts on the property.

with a full broadside pic we could prob see a few more defining features that aren't visible in that pic.
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nothing about that deer really says 4.5 to me. girth is full front of shoulders to rump. Has a full rippled look showing very little if any muscle definition in shoulders, neck ties straight into point of brisket. Slight sag in back and also looking at the truck bed pic appears to have very large callouses on front knees. If this pic is any earlier than mid november I'd say 5+ pretty easily.

I do like his frame but since he was barley a main frame 9 I see no prob with shooting that deer. Looks like a solid management buck to me. Especially if you have better younger 10pnts on the property.

with a full broadside pic we could prob see a few more defining features that aren't visible in that pic.
This is the only one I have, he was pretty camera shy. It was taken in the middle of October. I'm starting to feel a little better... We are definitely being careful with the mainframe 10's, there are quite a few young ones we are protecting.

Check out all the gray hairs that were in his coat, does that signify anything?
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:04 PM   #732
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This is the only one I have, he was pretty camera shy. It was taken in the middle of October. I'm starting to feel a little better... We are definitely being careful with the mainframe 10's, there are quite a few young ones we are protecting.

Check out all the gray hairs that were in his coat, does that signify anything?
Not really that I know of but I guess it could,but if that was an Oct pic I'd say min 5.5, I think your good
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:47 PM   #733
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:18 AM   #734
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Got some of the good stuff this morning.... to add to the 6/10s weve had the previous two days. Starting to see some good deer on camera again. Its getting closer.












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Old 08-12-2018, 08:22 AM   #735
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Theres no deer in san angelo...quit posting fake pictures ...

Glad we got rain..

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Old 08-12-2018, 08:23 AM   #736
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Jason, your deer are looking good.

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Here's a live picture of him, tell me what you see. I'm not too proud to admit I made a mistake Everyone was fine, we knew we had to kill a bunch of deer and we had been wearing the does out. Plenty of bigger bucks out there.
That deer was at least 5
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:29 AM   #738
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Got some of the good stuff this morning.... to add to the 6/10s weve had the previous two days. Starting to see some good deer on camera again. Its getting closer.












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Old 08-12-2018, 11:48 AM   #739
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Man thats good to see rain in the area.
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Gonna be some prime range conditions going into sept
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:03 PM   #744
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Thank the Lord for all this rain.
Sure happy to see the San Angelo areas finally getting a good rain event.
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Looking good, Jason.
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Nice deer Jason. Was starting to wonder if rain was all that visited your feed pen.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:09 PM   #747
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Ive gotten over 4 in the last 2 days here in Sonora. 3 today!!!!

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Old 08-12-2018, 07:02 PM   #748
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Some great looking deer everyone! Now I’m really excited for season to get here!
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Old 08-12-2018, 07:40 PM   #749
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Not going to be a huge scorer but I like this deer. Definitely unique.






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