Reply
Go Back   TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums > Topics > Around the Campfire
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-13-2019, 06:52 PM   #1
TxAg
Pope & Young
 
TxAg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW
Default For the 270 vs 308 crowd

This was a good read

https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/270-vs-308/
TxAg is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 07:39 PM   #2
32drawlength
Pope & Young
 
32drawlength's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Frisco
Hunt In: Palo Pinto County, Mexia
Default

Good article, I enjoy both my 270 & 308 but lean for my 270
32drawlength is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 08:58 PM   #3
TxAg
Pope & Young
 
TxAg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 32drawlength View Post
Good article, I enjoy both my 270 & 308 but lean for my 270
I've always preferred a short action but after hunting in extreme winds last week, that fast little 270 seems nice
TxAg is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:08 PM   #4
Leverhunter
Eight Point
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Default

Can't go wrong with either one.
Leverhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:11 PM   #5
sierracharlie338
Pope & Young
 
sierracharlie338's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: The Republic of Texas (Houston)
Hunt In: Anywhere I can.... seems to be pretty limited these days
Default

Good read indeed. I’ll always be a 308 fan for a few reasons.


Sierracharlie out…
sierracharlie338 is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:11 PM   #6
SmTx
Pope & Young
 
SmTx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: San Marcos/Hempstead
Hunt In: Jim Wells
Default

Decent read.

I've never considered comparing the two. But I have a lot of redundant calibers anyways.
SmTx is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:23 PM   #7
Traildust
Pope & Young
 
Traildust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Alvin, Texas
Hunt In: Bee County
Default

.308>.270
Traildust is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:31 PM   #8
MagicBlade
Ten Point
 
MagicBlade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Keller, Texas
Hunt In: Archer County Texas
Default

Good read, thanks for sharing.
I own both and love shooting either one.
308 Savage Bolt Action Bull Barrel
270 Browning Bar Safai Auto
MagicBlade is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 09:31 PM   #9
RJH1
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Default

The problem with the article is that the only way a 150 308 beats a 150 270 at distance, is if they are comparing a spitzer in the 308 against a round nose in the 270. For a fair comparison, if you take something like serria GK bullets, that are loaded in both rounds, the 150 270 has ~ a .1 ballistic coefficent advantage over a .308 150 Game king. AKA, at like muzzle velocities, the higher BC bullet will have an advantage at distance. No wonder no one knows what's going on with ballistics, even the "professional" gun writers can't be trusted to not spout BS. And i don't even own a 270

Last edited by RJH1; 10-13-2019 at 10:07 PM.
RJH1 is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:01 PM   #10
brokeno
Ten Point
 
brokeno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Smiley, Texas
Hunt In: Gonzales & Young Co and anywhere
Default

Txag. Who did you get to read it to you.
brokeno is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:03 PM   #11
Jon B
Ten Point
 
Jon B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Central Tx.
Hunt In: Central Tx and the Western States
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 32drawlength View Post
Good article, I enjoy both my 270 & 308 but lean for my 270

Short and fat beats tall and skinny .......all day long!
Jon B is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:05 PM   #12
TxAg
Pope & Young
 
TxAg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brokeno View Post
Txag. Who did you get to read it to you.
My kindergartener
TxAg is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:06 PM   #13
MUZZYSLINGR
Eight Point
 
MUZZYSLINGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kingman, AZ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon B View Post
Short and fat beats tall and skinny .......all day long!


Are you talking about bullets or women?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
MUZZYSLINGR is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:13 PM   #14
Big pig
Pope & Young
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Cypress, tx
Hunt In: Goliad and Leon Co.
Default

Long train is harder to stop than short train?

I only shoot 130’s in my .270. Easy on me
Tough on deer and hogs.

BP
Big pig is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:14 PM   #15
32drawlength
Pope & Young
 
32drawlength's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Frisco
Hunt In: Palo Pinto County, Mexia
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon B View Post
Short and fat beats tall and skinny .......all day long!


Haha
I’ll stick to my tall!!!

I gotta watch you a little better
32drawlength is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:22 PM   #16
txpitdog
Pope & Young
 
txpitdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Kingwood
Hunt In: Uh yeah. About that...
Default For the 270 vs 308 crowd

The heavier cartridges used to use the argument of energy and penetrating momentum, but with improved bullet technology, lighter cartridges have increased their performance potential. Although the heavier cartridges have as well, the gaps between chamberings have closed some, and there is an argument to be made for why go with overkill (especially recoil) if something lighter will do the job reliably.

All that said, gimme an ‘06 and leave me alone with that 270 silliness.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
txpitdog is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:37 PM   #17
MUZZYSLINGR
Eight Point
 
MUZZYSLINGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kingman, AZ
Default

I really like them both and have a rifle or 2 in both cartridges so its win win for me.

That said my favorite is .257 Roberts.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
MUZZYSLINGR is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:42 PM   #18
Drycreek3189
Pope & Young
 
Drycreek3189's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Default

Do any of you think an animal cares if he’s hit with a .270 or a .308 if it’s hit in the same spot ? I don’t.
Drycreek3189 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:42 PM   #19
sierracharlie338
Pope & Young
 
sierracharlie338's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: The Republic of Texas (Houston)
Hunt In: Anywhere I can.... seems to be pretty limited these days
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MUZZYSLINGR View Post
I really like them both and have a rifle or 2 in both cartridges so its win win for me.

That said my favorite is .257 Roberts.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I’m about to give mine a make over. New barrel and stock!


Sierracharlie out…
sierracharlie338 is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:54 PM   #20
TacticalCowboy
Ten Point
 
TacticalCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Snyder
Hunt In: Southern Taylor County, Tom Green County
Default

That seemed like a whole lot of words to say “it doesn’t matter “
TacticalCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 10:58 PM   #21
TxAg
Pope & Young
 
TxAg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TacticalCowboy View Post
That seemed like a whole lot of words to say “it doesn’t matter “
Haha well played
TxAg is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 11:03 PM   #22
Johnny44
Ten Point
 
Johnny44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Texas
Default

What I do know is for the average range sportsman, if you are shooting anything OTHER THAN a 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, or 308 with a 4x or 6x scope, you are lying to yourself and may fool some fools.
Johnny44 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 11:15 PM   #23
TacticalCowboy
Ten Point
 
TacticalCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Snyder
Hunt In: Southern Taylor County, Tom Green County
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny44 View Post
What I do know is for the average range sportsman, if you are shooting anything OTHER THAN a 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, or 308 with a 4x or 6x scope, you are lying to yourself and may fool some fools.
I like this.
TacticalCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 11:23 PM   #24
Rubi513
Pope & Young
 
Rubi513's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Centerville
Hunt In: Walker County
Default

I like both, but if I had to choose one it would be the 270.
Rubi513 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-13-2019, 11:33 PM   #25
Muddy Bud
Pope & Young
 
Muddy Bud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Corpus Christi
Hunt In: Webb/Jim Hogg
Default

Never had a deer complain about a 270. I have both. If I had a choice it be my 257 Wby Mag. But if those two were the only choices I'd go 270 all day.
Muddy Bud is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 12:00 AM   #26
Big pig
Pope & Young
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Cypress, tx
Hunt In: Goliad and Leon Co.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TacticalCowboy View Post
I like this.
And if you think deer & hogs get any deader from a nice custom .308 than my
cheap .270 Ruger American, you are also wrong.

However, high end variable scopes are a huge advantage.
Big pig is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 12:29 AM   #27
sailor
Pope & Young
 
sailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Texas
Hunt In: Texas
Default

I'll take, my tack driving Savage 270...……...
sailor is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 12:46 AM   #28
hpdrifter
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: kerens
Hunt In: anywhere I can
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MUZZYSLINGR View Post
I really like them both and have a rifle or 2 in both cartridges so its win win for me.

That said my favorite is .257 Roberts.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I've always wanted a .257R, but never have had one.

It just sounds like the perfect deer caliber.
hpdrifter is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 01:13 AM   #29
Burnadell
Pope & Young
 
Burnadell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: White Oak
Hunt In: Bee County
Default

I will just keep shooting my trusty .270 Remington.
Burnadell is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 06:22 AM   #30
HUNTNETIME
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Hunt In: Bee County
Default

I have both. A-Bolt in 270 and BAR in 308. Killed deer with both. Don't remember any of the deer saying they would have rather been shot with the other round.
HUNTNETIME is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 07:30 AM   #31
Bayouboy
Pope & Young
 
Bayouboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: League City
Hunt In: East Texas
Default

I own both and cannot say that one is really any better than the other.
Bayouboy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 07:37 AM   #32
vtexhunter
Nubbin' Buck
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Victoria
Hunt In: Inez
Default

I own both as well and haven't shot a deer with anything but my 25-06 in years.
vtexhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 07:39 AM   #33
TMC50
Pope & Young
 
TMC50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sheridan
Hunt In: Whereever I can
Default

I love my 270 pump! Sucker can put some rounds down range pretty fast and is pretty easy on the shoulder.
TMC50 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 08:04 AM   #34
cva34
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: van vleck
Hunt In: LOOKING
Default

Have owned both over the years.Both Get the job done well..Excellent Cartridges...For some reason I prefer the shorter cases of the 308...and own most calibers that use it as Mother case..243 /260 rem/7MM/358 win. Thats just a me thing..

Last edited by cva34; 10-14-2019 at 08:07 AM.
cva34 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 08:07 AM   #35
Gemlin
Spike
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Default

Doesn't matter.

95% of all game animals are shot under 200 yards and 3/4s of those are under 100.

A deer hit correctly at 50 yards with s 308, 270, 7mm Mag or even an arrow is still just as dead.

Last edited by Gemlin; 10-14-2019 at 08:46 AM.
Gemlin is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 08:11 AM   #36
coker737
Ten Point
 
coker737's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Grapevine, Texas
Hunt In: My KB Ranch. Rocksprings, TX
Default

I have both and throw in the .243 just because
coker737 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 09:40 AM   #37
krisw
Pope & Young
 
krisw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hughes Springs, TX
Hunt In: Cass County
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny44 View Post
What I do know is for the average range sportsman, if you are shooting anything OTHER THAN a 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, or 308 with a 4x or 6x scope, you are lying to yourself and may fool some fools.


I agree with exception of the scope part. I want the strongest one I can stand.
krisw is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 11:28 AM   #38
Johnny44
Ten Point
 
Johnny44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Texas
Default

Thats why we have so many flavors, I like chocolate chip cookie dough.

What really matters is Grizzly Bears, lets move straight to that and dispense with the redundancy.
Johnny44 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 12:27 PM   #39
Smart
Pope & Young
 
Smart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Denton, TX
Hunt In: Tom Green County
Default

First gun I ever owned was a Remington Mohawk 600 in .308. Killed my first deer with a .308 of my Dads. Loved that gun but the dude who stole it from me obviously love it more. That being said I bought a .270 to replace it and my go to deer rifles are all still .270s. Nothing against .308 but if I'm hunting Texas animals with a rifle its a 130 gr .270.


The animals I have shot with it didn't care for much for the caliber though.

Last edited by Smart; 10-14-2019 at 12:30 PM.
Smart is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 01:11 PM   #40
tx_basser
Six Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sachse, TX
Hunt In: Any place Public
Default

I don't know why gun writers still writing about these cartridge debates, then cherry pick the stats they want to use to make their case.
tx_basser is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 02:41 PM   #41
TacticalCowboy
Ten Point
 
TacticalCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Snyder
Hunt In: Southern Taylor County, Tom Green County
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tx_basser View Post
I don't know why gun writers still writing about these cartridge debates, then cherry pick the stats they want to use to make their case.
Because “It doesn’t matter” doesn’t sell.
TacticalCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 02:48 PM   #42
Kevin
Ten Point
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fort Worth
Hunt In: Fannin and Argentina, Zambia, Kyrgyzstan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny44 View Post
What I do know is for the average range sportsman, if you are shooting anything OTHER THAN a 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, or 308 with a 4x or 6x scope, you are lying to yourself and may fool some fools.
This is a confusing statement.
Kevin is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 02:54 PM   #43
Gary Roberson
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Default

I agree with Jack O'Connor....270 is tough to beat for an all around cartridge. I have no idea how many deer I have killed with a .270 from ranges, 30 yards to way to far to talk about.
Adios,
Gary
Gary Roberson is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 03:02 PM   #44
glen
Pope & Young
 
glen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lake Georgetown
Hunt In: anywhere
Default

For shooting accuracy and ranges the 30 caliber is a thing of the past. Most guys now that shoot it is because they grew up with it and its what they know. I have several and carry them but if folks at talking about just accuracy then you have to get a long stable bullet. The 6.5 to 7 are king in the shooting world.
glen is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:21 PM   #45
Phillip Fields
Pope & Young
 
Phillip Fields's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Hunt In: NC,TX, and anywhere else I can
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glen View Post
For shooting accuracy and ranges the 30 caliber is a thing of the past. Most guys now that shoot it is because they grew up with it and its what they know. I have several and carry them but if folks at talking about just accuracy then you have to get a long stable bullet. The 6.5 to 7 are king in the shooting world.
Have you looked at the new crop of long range bullets for the big 30s and bigger?
Phillip Fields is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:26 PM   #46
El General
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston
Hunt In: Coke County
Default

Comparing a 150 grn .270 to a 150 grn .308 is not apples to apples. You are supposed to compare bullets with similar sectional densities for a like to like comparison.
El General is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:28 PM   #47
El General
Ten Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston
Hunt In: Coke County
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glen View Post
For shooting accuracy and ranges the 30 caliber is a thing of the past. Most guys now that shoot it is because they grew up with it and its what they know. I have several and carry them but if folks at talking about just accuracy then you have to get a long stable bullet. The 6.5 to 7 are king in the shooting world.
Well, in the match shooting world, 6mm or maybe 6.5mm is king. If you are killing animals at long ranges, .30 cal is still very useful with modern high BC bullets.
El General is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:37 PM   #48
glen
Pope & Young
 
glen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lake Georgetown
Hunt In: anywhere
Default

If I was going to build today. I don’t see anything that is a carry rifle that will beat a 28 Nosler. Sure a 338 Lapua is a great round but you physically can not lug one up and down a mountainside.

General you are correct on the 6-6.5
glen is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:51 PM   #49
tx_basser
Six Point
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sachse, TX
Hunt In: Any place Public
Default

One thing you can take to the bank.. you can't turn a 270 into a 30-06 performance wise and bullet weight range options.
tx_basser is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-14-2019, 04:58 PM   #50
TxBowHntr
Six Point
 
TxBowHntr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Katy, Tx
Hunt In: Lee, Bee, Nueces, Uvalde
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny44 View Post
What I do know is for the average range sportsman, if you are shooting anything OTHER THAN a 243, 270, 30-06, 30-30, or 308 with a 4x or 6x scope, you are lying to yourself and may fool some fools.
You seem to be missing quite a few great calibers here: 7mm-08, .280, 25-06, etc...
TxBowHntr is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1999-2012, TexasBowhunter.com