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Old 11-16-2018, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default So, you're minding your own business ans drive up on this:

What would you honestly do? Hero or haul arse?

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Old 11-16-2018, 10:42 AM   #2
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Id stay the heck out of the way. Dont want to get shot by a.criminal or the police.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:47 AM   #3
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That other car should have rammed him, an f250 in the side of that door would have ended it pretty quick.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:49 AM   #4
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If I witnessed that, I would not be a bystander.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:51 AM   #5
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So did it happen in Arizona or Arkansas? Title says one state and report says another.

Probably stay out of the way since LE was already involved and on the scene.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:54 AM   #6
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:55 AM   #7
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I would continue to mind my own business.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:57 AM   #8
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That other car should have rammed him, an f250 in the side of that door would have ended it pretty quick.
yeah this x2
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:00 AM   #9
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That other car should have rammed him, an f250 in the side of that door would have ended it pretty quick.
My first thought was that car should have smashed into the shooters door, and take off the shooters legs slamming the door on them.

But then my second thought was, then shooter would sue you, take millions, hire a good attorney to defend against shooting at a cop, and be out in a year or two.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:03 AM   #10
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I am sure the officer involved would prefer citizens stay out of the way. However if I read later that officer was killed, I would feel awful I ran away. So I think I would have to make that decision in the moment if I am ever presented with this situation.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:04 AM   #11
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My first thought was that car should have smashed into the shooters door, and take off the shooters legs slamming the door on them.

But then my second thought was, then shooter would sue you, take millions, hire a good attorney to defend against shooting at a cop, and be out in a year or two.
Sadly this could always be a possibility
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:06 AM   #12
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Remember the the ''Deer Hunter'' on I10?
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:14 AM   #13
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What are our resident LEO views on here? Intervening hurtful or helpful?
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:16 AM   #14
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I think had the shooter been more exposed I would have run him over. This video footage makes it a tough call to make in the heat of the moment. I really don't think my mind would let me completely flee the situation without trying to figure out how I could help.

That said, I would also be thinking about who I have in the car with me. If it's my wife and kids... I'm not sticking around and keeping them in harms way.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:19 AM   #15
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I think had the shooter been more exposed I would have run him over. This video footage makes it a tough call to make in the heat of the moment. I really don't think my mind would let me completely flee the situation without trying to figure out how I could help.

That said, I would also be thinking about who I have in the car with me. If it's my wife and kids... I'm not sticking around and keeping them in harms way.
Good point, your first priority is getting your family out of harms way!
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:27 AM   #16
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What do you mean what would I do? I'd watch.....That would be the most awesome day of my life. I've never seen a real shootout unfold but I want to.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:27 AM   #17
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Shows you how bad the “news” is. My sister & her husband live on that road, and it’s not in Arizona haha.

Person comes around the blind corner, has no idea what’s going on, I probably would have done the same thing except maybe driven past instead of backing up. You really don’t have much time to think there or decipher the situation. You don’t even know who’s who and there’s bullets flying. I’m out.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:32 AM   #18
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If I had been in that car that backed off I'd have crushed him with his own door.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:38 AM   #19
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Would like to have been 60 yards out coming home from a deer hunt with a deer rifle and thumped the thug in the boiler room while he was playing cops and robbers...
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:39 AM   #20
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I would pull out my cellphone, hit record, and yell WORLDSTAR!!!

Maybe flash some gang signs with my hands, and yell out the area code I stay in.


That's what's you're suppose to do right?

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Old 11-16-2018, 11:45 AM   #21
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What do you mean what would I do? I'd watch.....That would be the most awesome day of my life. I've never seen a real shootout unfold but I want to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTohruqFIGU
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:51 AM   #22
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What do you mean what would I do? I'd watch.....That would be the most awesome day of my life. I've never seen a real shootout unfold but I want to.
Working here in pretty much downtown Dallas, we saw a few when I was on 3rd shift. We took our breaks outside so we could smoke. Got run back into the building a couple of times. It's not as cool as you think it is.


And no, they weren't using flintlocks.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:03 PM   #23
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That other car should have rammed him, an f250 in the side of that door would have ended it pretty quick.
Agreed. I have a Ram 2500 4x4 with a ranch hand insurance policy. I would have pinched him and stayed in the truck until the deputy slowly approached.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:04 PM   #24
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What do you mean what would I do? I'd watch.....That would be the most awesome day of my life. I've never seen a real shootout unfold but I want to.
I have. Not that cool.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:08 PM   #25
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I laughed way to hard at the speed of that car going in reverse! I know the situation is not but that sucker had it pegged out. Dang near rolled it on that curve.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:10 PM   #26
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That other car should have rammed him, an f250 in the side of that door would have ended it pretty quick.
That's exactly what I would have done.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:16 PM   #27
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I would pull out my cellphone, hit record, and yell WORLDSTAR!!!

Maybe flash some gang signs with my hands, and yell out the area code I stay in.


That's what's you're suppose to do right?
ha ha ha. this x2!
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:16 PM   #28
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Family in the car, I back up and call in whats going on. I do however wait for him to come around the corner and try to take his tires out as he goes by.

If I am solo I ease back a bit and try to see what I can do if anything. If I feel I cant really offer good help I wait for the tire deal again if the officer doesn't take him down.

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I mainly drive my gas saver compact car around so I can't really ram anything. If I was in my Taco, I would consider slamming his door because I sit very high.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:24 PM   #29
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Guys. I would say protect yourself and be a good witness if possible. Call 911. This is what we get paid to do. If I was the officer and a citizen was injured or killed I’d never be able to recover
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:24 PM   #30
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My first thought was that car should have smashed into the shooters door, and take off the shooters legs slamming the door on them.

But then my second thought was, then shooter would sue you, take millions, hire a good attorney to defend against shooting at a cop, and be out in a year or two.
Yep thought about that too.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:25 PM   #31
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If I’m traveling and see this I’m grabbing my rifle and going to work
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:30 PM   #32
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A lot to think about there but like said above if I left and stayed out of the way and I found out that officer died it would be hard to let that go.

In all honesty if I was armed and by myself I may have backed up but blocked the road and readied myself so that if the officer was hit and was in real danger I could help but at least keep it from being an easy escape and gather as much info as possible. Basically backup until the real backup arrives or the officer succeeds in stopping the threat.

I def couldn’t have completely left the scene.

Now does anyone one know if the second vehicle behind the officers crusader was law enforcement or a Good Samaritan?
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:34 PM   #33
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Hard to say. Sitting behind my desk I would like to say I would either pull out my pistol and shoot the guy or pin him between the door with my truck. On the other hand I **** sure wouldn't want to be in the policeman's line of fire and cause him to have to stop shooting because of where I was.

In reality, knowing what it's like to be shot at by a stranger, I would have probably backed up and assessed the situation and tried to determine what I could do to help the officers.

I do believe once he started driving off, it would have been a demo derby, he was probably out of bullets and would have been a little more unsuspecting what was getting ready to happen.

Can't say for 100% certainty

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Old 11-16-2018, 12:35 PM   #34
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Dang that's scary!
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:36 PM   #35
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Hard to say what you would do till your actually there. It's sad that in todays society you would probably be sued for helping. I'd also be interested in what the LEO members have to say.


Found a better video and the guy was an illegal.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-traffic-stop/
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:16 PM   #36
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I have 2 vehicles that I drive weekly. I have a 14” suppressed AR and a plate carrier (with plates) with a 120 round load out in the back seat of both vehicles. They never come out. This video is just simply one of the many reasons I carry this stuff in both vehicles.
As stated above, most don’t know what they’d do until they actually got in the moment. I know exactly what I’d do.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:23 PM   #37
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A lot of people posting on here that have never been shot at.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:28 PM   #38
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Remember the the ''Deer Hunter'' on I10?
Ok so what is the real story here? Is this the one where the hunter witnessed the officer get shot and then laid the the suspect out with his rifle from across the highway?
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:37 PM   #39
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A lot of people posting on here that have never been shot at.



That's why I said I would like to be 70 yards back in my post... Maybe I should have added behind my truck too..
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:46 PM   #40
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Ok so what is the real story here? Is this the one where the hunter witnessed the officer get shot and then laid the the suspect out with his rifle from across the highway?
Yeah that's the one. Shot him 5 times with a .243 I believe.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:52 PM   #41
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That's why I said I would like to be 70 yards back in my post... Maybe I should have added behind my truck too..
Smart I think you could hit him at a hundred with your truck for a rest
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:54 PM   #42
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Smart I think you could hit him at a hundred with your truck for a rest

Not sure my old *** could see what was going on that far away though..
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:01 PM   #43
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Almost unbelievable that only the bad guy came away from that bleeding. Seems there would be a few holes in the LEO from all that lead flying. Wow!
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:02 PM   #44
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It would be kinda hard to jump in without really knowing what is going on. It's kind of hard to say what I would actually do if I came around a corner into this situation.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:15 PM   #45
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The citizen in the first altercation should have rammed into the driver door of the shooter's vehicle.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:16 PM   #46
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This dude is an ILLEGAL ALIEN.....just figured I would toss that in to clarify the caliber of POS we witnessed here.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:20 PM   #47
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Yeah that's the one. Shot him 5 times with a .243 I believe.
So I have been curious about this for a long time and thanks to the google machine I was able to find the story. It actually occurred on Hwy 67 near Rankin in 1976. The "deer hunter" did not want to be identified and therefore the file was sealed after he was no billed. Interesting story.

Sorry OP didn't mean to hijack!
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:44 PM   #48
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That's a lot of shooting with no hits. Why don't police officers would carry a SBR AR15 in the front with them? The rifle in the trunk does you no good.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:30 PM   #49
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The citizen in the first altercation should have rammed into the driver door of the shooter's vehicle.
It looked like a female driver , possibly child or children in car . I think she did right , get to safety first .
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:40 PM   #50
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That's a lot of shooting with no hits. Why don't police officers would carry a SBR AR15 in the front with them? The rifle in the trunk does you no good.
When sugar turns to *****, hit rates drop real fast. I think they drop into the teens. Rifles in the cab are generally in a locking device. Once out of the car, ainít no way Iíd dive back in to try to get another weapon.
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