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Old 08-11-2017, 11:36 AM   #101
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We have 175 acres... family land. The neighbor to our south and west is high fencing his 1,000 acre place. That's fine… It's his right to do so. We actually have two issues…
1) when he does this we will be "high fenced" on three sides
2) he is asking us to split the costs! He says it's the "neighborly thing to do".

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about doing our fair share. Over the years, we have done roadwork, replaced fencing, etc. our other neighbors have always helped out.

I think this is different… The current low fence is in need of repair in some places, But it's keeping our cows in with no problems. we plan to replace it in the next two years.

I told him we will replace the low fence with a new low fence and he can help us pay for that if he wants, but we will not contribute any money towards a high fence...

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He sounds like a snowflake liberal.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:00 PM   #102
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If he wants it he should pay for it. As long as your livestock is held by whatever is in place how does it possibly fall on you?
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:17 PM   #103
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If you both had cattle, then it would be the neighborly thing to share the cost of a barbed wire fence, normal sized. Since he is fencing you out with his high fence and it serves you absolutely no good, tell him to pound sand.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:24 PM   #104
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Here is another idea that could benefit you and him. How about high fencing your outside boarder and keeping your low fence as cattle boarder, that being your 2 other sides are high fences.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:32 PM   #105
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Since you have high fence on two side already, tell him you will pay for half of the high fence on your OTHER property line (not the one between you and him) and keep your 175 inside the boundry of his High fence. 1175 acres of high fence is do-able.

tell him it's the "neighborly thing to do"
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:02 PM   #106
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1/2 of the low fence cost would be the right thing to do. He pays the rest for the high fence cost.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:45 PM   #107
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I agree with you, .....


Typically high fences are set-back into the property so there is a brush strip to maintain on the outside. Thus, they aren't on the property boundary, and even more reason for you not to split the bill. .....
^^ This. Always remember to be polite, though. Politely say, "no".

My neighbor years ago wanted to put up a new low fence. I offered the material, because I just simply couldn't do anything as far as costs or labor. He said wanted a pipe fence and had very specific things he wanted in regards to it. I told him he obviously had resources that I did not and again offered my material. He smiled and said not to worry and "...if I let him build it his way, he didn't mind paying for all of it." We are still very good neighbors to each other.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:29 PM   #108
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Everyone saying he should let himself be high fenced into the neighbor's place think this is a smart move? You are betting on good game management, never having a new owner for the other place, etc. What if he wants to put in an exotic and hog hunting operation for day hunters like we read about often on here? Could turn out like a really bad marriage that you can't get out of.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:29 PM   #109
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Willing to pay half only if both parties benefit and I see no benefit for you, been in the same boat! I'd go sit on my ranger and drink cold beer and watch. You could offer him a cold one every now and then to be neighborly


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Old 08-11-2017, 04:54 PM   #110
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Say NO to all
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:01 PM   #111
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Tell him you can't afford it and if he can't afford a high fence he doesnt need one anyway. He'll build it out of shear pride and spite at that point.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:02 PM   #112
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If you were already going to replace the fence I'd split the price of a new low fence, if not I wouldn't help.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:30 PM   #113
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Hail no I wouldn't pay one cent.


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Old 08-11-2017, 05:53 PM   #114
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Somewhere I heard they are supposed to run deer out before the final enclosing, but have never heard of it being done. Maybe have a pallet of corn ready and start corning heck out your place when they start the fence.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:56 PM   #115
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sounds like trump
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:24 PM   #116
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Unbelievable he would even ask you that.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:03 PM   #117
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Haven't read all the responses but we border a Hf on one side . Most come off property line and have a right away they own between them. We still have our bw fence , a lane he owns and then his hf. If I wanted to hf mine in future - without his permission to tie my corners into his with hf gates - he could say no and I would have to fence if all my side

If directly on line - i would offer to pay 1/2 what normal 5 strand fence you had would be ....and keep on good terms If his fence is off the line - I would want to know if he would let you tie to it in future if had to? If felt he would then still may make same iffef
I agree with this post.

If he wants to high fence is property then he has the money and he can set it back 50' to 100'. Then he can put blinds and feeders and let the kids hunt the open pasture. And more then likely "Whats Brown is Down" management.

I would offer 1/2 of a BW fence. I think thats fair.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:07 PM   #118
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I'd tell him "ain't now way" or nuts, kinda like that officer during WWII when asked to surrender.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:56 PM   #119
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Texas is not a fence out state. It is up to the county. Some are fence in some are fence out. Sometimes it differs within a county.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:03 PM   #120
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It sounds like at the time he ask he did not know your stance on high fence. You could have very well said yes we were wanting to high fence our 175 acres. You would have only had to pay half on 3 sides and full price on one. It didn't hurt to ask. Now he knows your position. If he sets back 12 feet from the property line and high fences and then takes his low fence down over to the property line. You will have to maintain your entire fence to keep your cattle off the road. I understand why some hate high fence but it depends on the side of the fence you are on.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:46 PM   #121
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Question I have is, how were the other sides handled? Did you help pay for them or were you even asked?
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:56 PM   #122
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Since you have high fence on two side already, tell him you will pay for half of the high fence on your OTHER property line (not the one between you and him) and keep your 175 inside the boundry of his High fence. 1175 acres of high fence is do-able.

tell him it's the "neighborly thing to do"
I like that idea.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:40 PM   #123
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Nope. This sounds like an all around suck for you....

if my neighbor wants to split fence costs with me, we will be doing it when and how it's convenient for me. I'd probably build a wire low fence myself, so him asking you for even half the labor and materials for a low fence still isn't a good deal for you, especially since you weren't ready to do it right now.

I wouldn't even think about gettting built inside a high fence with someone who thinks like he does...
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Old 08-12-2017, 12:32 AM   #124
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lol nope
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:07 AM   #125
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We have a fairly large ranch and our neighbors decided to put up a high fence on one side of us. But he never asked us to pay anything. He only made it about 3/4 of a mile, maybe a mile and didn't finish it. But since he has done that I have seen an increase in deer numbers in that specific area on our place. I wouldn't pay for it either, you did the neighborly thing in my opinion.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:21 AM   #126
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Around here neighbors usually go in on a fence and the bulldozed tree/brush piles get split between the two properties.

If one neighbor declines to participate in paying for it he usually takes all the brush piles.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:34 AM   #127
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Around here neighbors usually go in on a fence and the bulldozed tree/brush piles get split between the two properties.

If one neighbor declines to participate in paying for it he usually takes all the brush piles.
yeah right you leave trash like that on my land we gonna have problems
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:35 AM   #128
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This. Ask him how a high fence is neighborly.

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Old 08-12-2017, 09:12 AM   #129
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Since you have high fence on two side already, tell him you will pay for half of the high fence on your OTHER property line (not the one between you and him) and keep your 175 inside the boundry of his High fence. 1175 acres of high fence is do-able.

tell him it's the "neighborly thing to do"
I'd bet the neighbor won't agree to that for some reason
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:32 AM   #130
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Since you have high fence on two side already,
According to the very first post, the OP has a high fence on one side now. The neighbor that asked the OP to pay for half for "the new high fence", will be on 2 sides of his 175 acre tract.
My question is, which side is the high fence on now?
OP has already stated the new fence would be on the south and west side. Just wondering if this new fence would tie into the high fence already there?
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:20 AM   #131
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Just say no if you don't want a high fence. The only problem is, if you ever do decide to fence the place completely, you are going to have a problem tying in the corners if he insets the new fence.
I would think that he could just put in an H post next to the high fence and never touch the other guys fence and still fence his property. If the guy pulls his new fence off the property line just put up a hot wire until your ready to build your own fence. Either way with only 175 acres and high fenced on three sides a persons deer count will be very limited.

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Old 08-12-2017, 12:53 PM   #132
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I'd let him know it's not "neighborly" to high fence you out, pound sand homie. Or I like the other option of paying for half of the high fence to include you inside the 1175 acres high fence, of course that'll never happen
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:14 PM   #133
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yeah right you leave trash like that on my land we gonna have problems
That's how it works around here too everyone pays something one way or another. Don't want either I'd pull my fence off the property line and not let the other guy tie in.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:15 PM   #134
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I guess my question to the neighbor would be do "I" (OP) get hunt inside the fence if I pay half?!?

Better yet, offer to contribute to the fence if he includes OP's property inside the high fence. The OP can still maintain a low/cow fence to keep his cattle off the neighbor's land.

If the neighbor declines either or both offers, decline to contribute to HIS fence.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:58 PM   #135
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Since you have high fence on two side already, tell him you will pay for half of the high fence on your OTHER property line (not the one between you and him) and keep your 175 inside the boundry of his High fence. 1175 acres of high fence is do-able.

tell him it's the "neighborly thing to do"
My buddy did this and it worked out well, but he and the neighbor really are good friends
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:18 PM   #136
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nope, tell him you'll pay half of the lower part of the fence.
^^^^^This sounds fair to me.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:45 PM   #137
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Don't pay for any part of his high fence because if something happens later on you could still be responsible for half.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:53 PM   #138
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Offer some $ if he puts a gate in and gives you a key :P
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:21 PM   #139
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It should probably be a few feet on his property line to allow him to maintain it (if he is gonna be neighborly) so you shouldn't pay for a fence on his property
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:45 PM   #140
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Nope wouldn't give him a dime.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:49 PM   #141
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Only thing I would split is half of a normal cost of a 4 1/2 foot barbed wire fence the rest is on your neighbor.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:30 PM   #142
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Only thing I would split is half of a normal cost of a 4 1/2 foot barbed wire fence the rest is on your neighbor.
I am sure he will take that deal. My neighbor and I did because he wanted goat wire and I wanted barbed wire

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Old 08-14-2017, 11:45 PM   #143
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Question I have is, how were the other sides handled? Did you help pay for them or were you even asked?
The other high fence side, we weren't asked. The low fence we always replaced and the other neighbors split the cost with us
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:47 PM   #144
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According to the very first post, the OP has a high fence on one side now. The neighbor that asked the OP to pay for half for "the new high fence", will be on 2 sides of his 175 acre tract.
My question is, which side is the high fence on now?
OP has already stated the new fence would be on the south and west side. Just wondering if this new fence would tie into the high fence already there?
Yes, it would.
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Old 08-16-2017, 04:58 AM   #145
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nope, tell him you'll pay half of the lower part of the fence.
I'd tell him if he wants a high fence ranch, he can pay 100% of the cost, especially since you don't want it anyway. It'll stop all of the deer traffic across the fence line in/out of your property changing forever your hunting. If he wants his own 1000 acre hunting oasis, let him foot 100% of the bill. I don't see high fences as "the neighborly thing", to me they are the ultimate FU to a neighboring land owner who is a hunter.

I know some on here won't agree with me, but this is America.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:30 AM   #146
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I'd tell him if he wants a high fence ranch, he can pay 100% of the cost, especially since you don't want it anyway. It'll stop all of the deer traffic across the fence line in/out of your property changing forever your hunting. If he wants his own 1000 acre hunting oasis, let him foot 100% of the bill. I don't see high fences as "the neighborly thing", to me they are the ultimate FU to a neighboring land owner who is a hunter.

I know some on here won't agree with me, but this is America.
Lets say you have 1000 acres and your neighbor has 20 acres. You always give young deer a pass and never shoot them. Your neighbor hunts the fence line and shoots every buck he sees as soon as it jumps the fence. How would you feel about a high fence then?
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:48 AM   #147
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Could you split the cost of a normal barbed wire fence? If he wants a premium high fence, that additional cost is on him.

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Old 08-16-2017, 06:45 AM   #148
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Lets say you have 1000 acres and your neighbor has 20 acres. You always give young deer a pass and never shoot them. Your neighbor hunts the fence line and shoots every buck he sees as soon as it jumps the fence. How would you feel about a high fence then?
Are they legal deer?
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:47 AM   #149
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Lets say you have 1000 acres and your neighbor has 20 acres. You always give young deer a pass and never shoot them. Your neighbor hunts the fence line and shoots every buck he sees as soon as it jumps the fence. How would you feel about a high fence then?
If I owned the 20ac you would not know I was killing deer

Let them grow and only shoot 1 every other year or so, not let everyone I know come out and fill their tags

But I understand what you are saying

Best bet would be to meet the big neighbor and let him know I was management minded and help out with chores on the big place when I could
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:48 AM   #150
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Lets say you have 1000 acres and your neighbor has 20 acres. You always give young deer a pass and never shoot them. Your neighbor hunts the fence line and shoots every buck he sees as soon as it jumps the fence. How would you feel about a high fence then?
Id say if a person is driven to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a fence because his neighbor likes to hunt he has some real issues and at a minimum has lost all sence as to what hunting is all about.

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