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Originally posted by RJH1 View PostWhat makes you think confiscation wouldn't happen? It already has, ask the people in New Orleans if they got their guns back after Katrina.
Also, if you think they can't find a few guys in LE or the military to follow orders, and round up some guns, I think you must be smoking something besides Camels. And what do you think would happen the first or second time that some bubbas decided out to shoot it out with the military or LE for trying to confiscate their guns? Do you really think there would be a mass exodus from the military and LE, or would they tend to band together since, some hillbillys tried to stop them from doing a "lawful" order.
The police shot and killed a 61 year old guy the other day that someone had called in a red flag warning. They were there to take his guns, seems like confiscation to me. He might have been crazy, but if his guns were bought legally then there should be some due process for taking rights away from citizens, not just because someone called and said that a person was nuts.
Yeah, probably will never happen here, except Gregg Abbot and the NRA have asked the Texas house and Senate to look into those laws
They might get a few, but once word gets out they are going door to door, then the rest will be ready. Not saying the ones that would fight it will be successful at first. I myself would die trying though, and I know many others that feel the same. The government knows this, thats why I dont think there will ever be an attempt.
I just dont think Americans as a whole (citizens, military, Law enforcement, and government) are willing to allow the bloodshed that would result in a physical attack on the second amendment. It wouldnt be just a few "bubbas and hillbillys" trying to stop this. It would be whole communities, families, regular guys like you and I, militias, ect...
In this day and age, I believe every gun owner should ask themselves, what would I do if the day came where there was an attempt to confiscate firearms.
I know what I would do. I know what my wife, and my teenage sons would do.
What would you do?
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Originally posted by BowCrazy View PostWho's going to enforce these new laws? I think we have to many Bubba's here that are in the service, that wouldn't do it for nothing. Getting another country to do it or the UN? Naaaa Blue helmets make good targets.
If these pass it'll take years to gather all the weapons up.
Have you not paid attention to what happens in California, New York, Massachusetts?
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Bundy had a hell of a stand off and that was just several folks.
I don't even want to think about or romanticize about us standing in arms against the gov't but there's still red blooded Americans that will.
50 years on things changing is probably about right. Millennials are having fewer kids but as a whole they don't want the 2a. Their kids and their kid's kids will support the demise of it.
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Originally posted by BowCrazy View PostWho's going to enforce these new laws? I think we have to many Bubba's here that are in the service, that wouldn't do it for nothing. Getting another country to do it or the UN? Naaaa Blue helmets make good targets.
If these pass it'll take years to gather all the weapons up.
Maybe once their job gets more dangerous than the garbage mans then they will reconsider.
Dont think they wont, "they are just doing their jobs".
We have to make sure this bill goes nowhere, that's our job.
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Originally posted by NaClH2O_therapy View PostI agree there should be some due process to disarm people that pose a legitimate threat.
They might get a few, but once word gets out they are going door to door, then the rest will be ready. Not saying the ones that would fight it will be successful at first. I myself would die trying though, and I know many others that feel the same. The government knows this, thats why I dont think there will ever be an attempt.
I just dont think Americans as a whole (citizens, military, Law enforcement, and government) are willing to allow the bloodshed that would result in a physical attack on the second amendment. It wouldnt be just a few "bubbas and hillbillys" trying to stop this. It would be whole communities, families, regular guys like you and I, militias, ect...
In this day and age, I believe every gun owner should ask themselves, what would I do if the day came where there was an attempt to confiscate firearms.
I know what I would do. I know what my wife, and my teenage sons would do.
What would you do?
I think after the first people died and the populace saw that the govt was serious about taking their guns the rest would hand them over. The problem is that the civilian population really cannot stand up against the military for sure or in reality even local law enforcement. Look at the militarization of city and county police forces around the nation. They have full auto rifles, teargas, grenades, MRAP vehicles, body armor, etc. I know some states were trying to make it illegal for civilians to buy body armor, but i don't know if that went anywhere. General population wouldn't have a chance and the more resistance shown, the more liberties would be taken, once again, in the name of public safety. And don't forget about half the population already thinks guns are the root of all evil.
As to the question of what would I do, well I can't say for certain. I could thump my chest and say that i would fight to my last breath to keep my guns but, I do like to breath. Add in the fact that many guns will be confiscated piecemeal, in the name of public safety, like is happening now, I am not sure there will ever be a large armed resistance, and i dang sure ain't looking to be a martyr on my own. Everyone will need to look to someone else for a martyr. There is some brutal honesty, no internet bravado, and probably if other people are honest they would end up in the not 100% certain state as well.
Anyone who says with certitude that they would fight to their last breath for the right of the people to keep their guns, I would have to ask, where were they during Katrina, and why aren't they out there fighting to stop the confiscations going on now? Could it be a little of that internet bravado?
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Originally posted by NxSTexan View PostThat's a hard nope.
But why do you predict that?
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I doubt it will all happen at once but little chips here and there
Not what I want and hopefully I am wrong
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I recently came across a couple of articles that are starting to push that nonsense. Bunch of daisy sniffing, participation trophy wielding powder puffs. They can't accept others disagreeing with their world view (the illogical reasoning behind it is just too difficult for them to see) so they stay taking about breaking up a country. Loyalty to self and ideals. That should be the new party slogan.
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Originally posted by NxSTexan View PostI recently came across a couple of articles that are starting to push that nonsense. Bunch of daisy sniffing, participation trophy wielding powder puffs. They can't accept others disagreeing with their world view (the illogical reasoning behind it is just too difficult for them to see) so they stay taking about breaking up a country. Loyalty to self and ideals. That should be the new party slogan.
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Keep Texas Red...simple. Work on the youth and uninformed.
Illegitimus non carborundum.
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Originally posted by Mbbriggs05 View PostI’m so tired of the “Don’t Worry Crowd”.....folks it is an infringement of o e of our constitutional rights......As a matter of fact on the only one that explicitly states that it shall not be infringed upon. Liberals and liberal leaning republicans will only start with this one. Once a nation is disarmed or significantly handicapped (which is what this would do) they can bgon to pick and choose what rights they take next.
Wake up folks if we want to continue to live in “Democracy” we have to engage our Senators and representatives.
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Originally posted by meltingfeather View PostLeadership on this would be to propose solutions to the problems we are facing.
If we bow up, draw a line in the sand, fold our arms, and scowl, it's not going to stop.
This bill is a big problem.
"Gut the entire firearms industry" is a major overstatement.
The only way to stop this is to draw a line in the sand and refused to budge.
Were you around for the 1994 assault weapons ban? After they got that they kept coming back for more and more and more restrictive gun legislation.
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Originally posted by meltingfeather View PostLeadership
So I suppose in your view, a little bit of racism is okay? A little bit of racial profiling is fine?
How about a little bit of sexism in the workplace?
A Little bit of discrimination based on the sex of the individual?
The fact that we don't tolerate a little bit of any of those and that's okay, it's acceptable, should lead us to the conclusion that we will not tolerate a little bit of infringement of our 2nd Amendment rights.
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