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Old 03-31-2009, 02:45 PM   #51
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Great tread. What is your total cost and time spent?
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:38 PM   #52
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Sorry I haven't updated. The hide is still in the pickle as I got sidetracked with work and kids the last couple of days. I will update tonight when I neutralize and tan the hide.

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The cost is pretty cheap. The lutan f kit is about $20 and there is enough to probably do 4-5 deer hides.The boxes of salt are pretty cheap. The total time for skinning, fleshing, and thinning is probably 1-3 hours (I'm pretty slow at this). I salt for 24 hours. The pickle lasts for a minimum of 72 hours. Then neutralize for 30 minutes and the tan takes about 16 hours. Then you have to dry, stretch and oil the hide (I'm guessing 24 hours here). All total that is around 6 days but most of that time is just soaking in solution and does not require any real work on your part other than waiting. The only real labor involved is in skinning, fleshing, thinning, stretching, breaking, and oiling and all together that is less than 5 hours of work. But like I said, I am slow.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:32 PM   #53
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Sorry I haven't updated. The hide is still in the pickle as I got sidetracked with work and kids the last couple of days. I will update tonight when I neutralize and tan the hide.

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The cost is pretty cheap. The lutan f kit is about $20 and there is enough to probably do 4-5 deer hides.The boxes of salt are pretty cheap. The total time for skinning, fleshing, and thinning is probably 1-3 hours (I'm pretty slow at this). I salt for 24 hours. The pickle lasts for a minimum of 72 hours. Then neutralize for 30 minutes and the tan takes about 16 hours. Then you have to dry, stretch and oil the hide (I'm guessing 24 hours here). All total that is around 6 days but most of that time is just soaking in solution and does not require any real work on your part other than waiting. The only real labor involved is in skinning, fleshing, thinning, stretching, breaking, and oiling and all together that is less than 5 hours of work. But like I said, I am slow.
Do you have any pictures of past skins you have done?
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:19 PM   #54
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Do you have any pictures of past skins you have done?
Here's the blackbuck doe hide I did around 4 years ago.


The hide does not shed at all and makes a very soft, cool comfortable throw over the ottoman. I need to sand the skin side a little more but other than that it turned out well.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:26 PM   #55
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Update.

I started out this afternoon by taking the hide out of the pickle and rinsing it well. Then I rinsed the tub well and added about 4 gallons of water.


Then I added 4 ounces of sodium bicarbonate. I weighed this out at work today. The lutan f instructions call for 1 ounce of bicarb per gallon of water. This is the neutralizing solution.




I mixed it well to make sure all of the bicarb was disolved and then put the hides in the neutralizing solution.


In 20 or 30 minutes I'll take them out, rinse them, and prepare the tanning solution. Pics to come.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:04 PM   #56
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Probably 30 minutes went by and I took the hide out and rinsed it. I emptied the neutralizing solution and started refilling with about 4 gallons of fresh water.


The lutan recipe calls for 1/2 lb of salt per gallon of water so I add 2 gallons of salt and mix that until it is all disolved.


The recipe calls for 2 ounces of lutan f per gallon so I put in the remaining 8 ounces of lutan f.




After I had that thoroughly mixed until everything was disolved, I put the hide in the tanning solution.


The hide needs to stay in for about 16 hours so I will take it out somtime after lunch tomorrow. I will update then.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:51 PM   #57
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I had a taxidermy shop for a few years(untill I had to grow up and get a real job), and for an at home job you are doing great. As far as the thawing process, your brine does help some but the main thing to remember is keep the hide cool through the skinning and fleshing process. Heat is your enemy. Good job.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:15 PM   #58
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Thanks JSAPP. That's good to hear from a pro.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:46 PM   #59
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I love this thread. Thanks for taking the time to post all the pics and walk us through the process.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:04 PM   #60
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Thanks for keeping us updated. REALLY cool thread.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:38 PM   #61
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kool can't wait to see it
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:54 PM   #62
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Here's today's update.

I took the hide out of the lutan f solution, rinsed it well with the hose, and hung it up to drain for a while.


After drying for about an hour, I mixed up the Pro Plus tanning oil.


The instructions call for 1 part tanning oil to be mixed with 2 parts hot water. I added the oil to the water and mixed them well.




I spread the hide out and poured the oil over the hide and rubbed it in over the entire skin side of the hide.




I'll let the hide dry thoroughly and tomorrow I will start breaking and stretching the hide.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:34 PM   #63
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cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:52 AM   #64
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How well does the hide take in the oil. Are you just moving around puddles until it soaks it up or is there a process that works better?
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:18 AM   #65
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It's almost like rubbing in very thin lotion. The hide does not soak it up very rapidly. I am just making sure there is plenty of it covering the entire surface of the hide so it will soak in as the hide dries.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:42 PM   #66
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keep it coming, I'm planning on printing this thread and trying this myself when you are done.......THANK YOU FOR SHARING
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:03 PM   #67
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this is a great thread
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:52 PM   #68
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Thawing in a salt brine doesn't hurt. I prefer not to work with a water logged skin myself.

Look up fleshing with a pressure washer. It will remove all of the red meat and membrane before you salt. A bobcat takes about 5 minutes if you have one.

It's not a good idea to rinse a pickled hide in plain water. Once a hide goes into the pickle you really should use a salt brine to rinse your hides. Failure to do so can lead to acid swelling. Not a good thing and if not corrected promptly, will destroy the skin structure.

If you let the skin dry some before you oil, it will absorb much faster.

Good luck
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:17 PM   #69
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Thawing in a salt brine doesn't hurt. I prefer not to work with a water logged skin myself.

Look up fleshing with a pressure washer. It will remove all of the red meat and membrane before you salt. A bobcat takes about 5 minutes if you have one.

It's not a good idea to rinse a pickled hide in plain water. Once a hide goes into the pickle you really should use a salt brine to rinse your hides. Failure to do so can lead to acid swelling. Not a good thing and if not corrected promptly, will destroy the skin structure.

If you let the skin dry some before you oil, it will absorb much faster.

Good luck

Thanks for the tips. I'm going out to do some predator calling tomorrow. Hopefully I'll come up with something to try the pressure washer on.

I'll try using a separate tub with a brine to rinse next time also.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:27 PM   #70
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very neat thread. thanks for posting.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:42 PM   #71
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:42 PM   #72
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Sweet Thread. Gonna have to try this.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:49 PM   #73
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:43 PM   #74
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Can this process be applied to any animal? (pig, goat, deer)
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:54 PM   #75
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Interesting keep it coming
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:18 PM   #76
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Sorry for the delay. I've been tied up with a project for work the last few days. I hope to have this finished this weekend. The skin is dry, I just need to break and stretch it.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:25 PM   #77
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Can this process be applied to any animal? (pig, goat, deer)
Yeah, and they're actually a little easier in a way.
Any fur bearing animals (bobcats, coyotes, fox, beaver, etc.) will slip a lot easier and are tougher to successfully tan.

I would cringe at trying to tan a bobcat. Big brass has got big @#$%^!
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:44 PM   #78
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That was an intense learning session, I will definately try this and will come to your thread for directions, I was dissappointed as I scrolled I was very anxious to see the finished product, cant wait. Just got the euro thing down, now this, sweet.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:06 AM   #79
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awesome show and tell!!!!
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:26 PM   #80
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interesting.. cant wait to see it finished!!
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:26 PM   #81
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Its like waiting for Christmas!
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:35 AM   #82
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Do you have a pic of the flesh side of the doe hide you already finished?
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:54 PM   #83
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Its like waiting for Christmas!
I don't know Christmas may come first. J/K Look forward to the finished product.
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:10 PM   #84
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:41 PM   #85
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Thanks for sharing that process. I just killed a fox yesterday and didnt know where to start but a buddy of mine suggested that Lutan F kit so its shipping from Cabela's in a couple days. So how did it turn out?
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:31 AM   #86
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:24 AM   #87
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Great info. Thanks for posting.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:00 AM   #88
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Thanks for posting this. Im gonna have to remember this so i can give it try some time
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:35 AM   #89
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Big Brass,

Your killing us with anticipation




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Old 04-23-2009, 02:21 PM   #90
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keep it coming BB
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:09 PM   #91
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:54 PM   #92
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Come on man post the results we are hanging on by a thread here.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:02 PM   #93
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Interesting thread. Keep it up!
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:35 PM   #94
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Well????
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:00 AM   #95
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I want to try this and then use the result to make a quiver, might turn out pretty nice with the right animal...
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:21 AM   #96
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was it a bust or what ?
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:16 PM   #97
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C'mon,let's see it!!!
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:52 PM   #99
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just wondering how you measured out the ounces
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