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Old 12-05-2017, 04:35 PM   #1
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Default Who likes older/obsolete cartridges?

Don't ask me why, but I've always had a hankering for older cartridges. They aren't necessarily that old or obsolete, but probably got replaced by more "modern" cartridges. Two that come to mind for me are the 6.5 X 55 and the 7 X 61 Sharpe & Hart. I've had a 6.5, but it was really my dad's rifle and he gave it to his African friend/outfitter several years ago. I've never had the S&H, but it had intrigued me for years. I'd love to get my hands on a good Schultz and Larsen Model 54 or 60 in 7 X 61.

Anyone else have this kind of problem?
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:45 PM   #2
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I do. My go to deer rifle is a 1895 7x57 Mauser. I have a 6.5x55 Norwegian Krag, a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser and various 7x57 military mausers that are project rifles. Currently I do not own a "popular" caliber like a 270, 30-06, 243. I have nothing against them and will have one again, I just prefer the old and different.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:53 PM   #3
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Count me in I suppose since anything for the 257 Roberts is pretty much non-existent.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:54 PM   #4
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Default Very nice....

What's the make on the old Swede? My father's was an import from the late 50's I think and he had it sporterized. It had an 18.5 inch barrel and wore an old Weaver K-3, which I still have. I loved that gun and was disappointed when he gave it away.
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:46 PM   #5
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What's the make on the old Swede? My father's was an import from the late 50's I think and he had it sporterized. It had an 18.5 inch barrel and wore an old Weaver K-3, which I still have. I loved that gun and was disappointed when he gave it away.
I was my grandmothers, I think it is a M38. It does have that short barrel that spits fire everytime you shoot it.
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:48 PM   #6
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Count me in I suppose since anything for the 257 Roberts is pretty much non-existent.
A 257 Roberts is on my wish list!
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:53 PM   #7
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Default I love my Roberts....

and it's a deer/sheep/hog killing machine. 46 grains of IMR 4350 pushing a 90 gr Barnes X bullet had thumped a lot of critters.
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:55 PM   #8
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I gravitate to the unusual and sometimes old cartridges

6.5X54 MS
25-20
256 Win Mag
38-55
375 Win
350 Rem Mag
264 Win Mag
22 hornet
17 Rem
257 Roberts
7X57
30 carbine
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5mm Rem Mag
7-30 Waters
357 max
32 H&R Mag
6.5X57
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:21 PM   #9
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A 257 Roberts is on my wish list!


It was my first deer rifle given to me by my dad. About to have a new barrel put on it for a little improved performance.


Sierracharlie out
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:33 PM   #10
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Same boat here. Finally acquired a 7x57 and a 250 Savage is next on my list. I've always been interested in a Sharp & Hart too. I've had a 264 Win Mag for a long time. A 221 Fireball has piqued my curious mind also.

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Old 12-05-2017, 06:42 PM   #11
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9.3x62 my favorite killing machine.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:50 PM   #12
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:52 PM   #13
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Have two small ring Spanish Mauser 93s. One sporterized and one original. Been looking with no luck for someone to sporterize the other for me. Both 7x57.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:52 PM   #14
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I do too. Most of my hunting is with a 6.5x55, 7x57, .300 H&H or 8x57J. Last year I came across an original Mauser Type B manufactured in 1905 and chambered in 8x57J (.318 bore). It's pristine and all original. It's one of my absolute favorite rifles.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:17 PM   #15
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I own a few:
35 Whelen
32-20 WCF
218 Bee
25-20 WCF
25-35 WCF
7-30 Waters
38-55 WCF
375 Win
45 Schofield
257 Roberts
44-40 WCF
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A few I have sold
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:33 PM   #16
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I have a burning desire for the 6.5x55. Have wanted one for a long time but always seem to spend what little extra I have on other needs. Hopefully in a couple of years I will have one
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:12 PM   #17
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I have a Swedish Mauser. 1908 date stamp, I really enjoy shooting it.

My most unusual, is really just a cartridge that never became popular, so you have to look for them : 35 Remington

Kepe in mind, the 30.06 came to be in 1906. Mine was made in 1917, and my great uncle had it sporterized in the 50s. He hunted bear and elk with it. I justshoot pigs, and an occasional deer with it. Ill never change it.



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Old 12-05-2017, 09:14 PM   #18
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6.5 x 55 is a very good long range cartridge.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:17 PM   #19
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225 win, 244 rem, 250 savage
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:40 AM   #20
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225 win, 244 rem, 250 savage
Do you own a 225 Win? I tried to buy one off a fella one time it was in 340 Savage. You know that was the cartridge designed to replace the 220 Swift! Was not meant to be. Back in the 60's the 220 Swift got a bad rap as the barrel burner cartridge, so every gun company was coming out with its replacement.

How about a 5mm Remington rimfire magnum. My dad bought one, but he said ammo for it was tough to find and he traded it off for coon dog named Smoke..
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:58 AM   #21
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I’d like to have a 224 Weatherby
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:04 AM   #22
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I also like the 284 win and the 6.5 rem mag.
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:05 AM   #23
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Do you own a 225 Win? I tried to buy one off a fella one time it was in 340 Savage. You know that was the cartridge designed to replace the 220 Swift! Was not meant to be. Back in the 60's the 220 Swift got a bad rap as the barrel burner cartridge, so every gun company was coming out with its replacement.

How about a 5mm Remington rimfire magnum. My dad bought one, but he said ammo for it was tough to find and he traded it off for coon dog named Smoke..
No I don't own one, but had the chance to buy one and shied away due to lack of ammo. I also shied away from a nice little 219 zipper once for the same reason. I do own a 35 Whelen and 7mm wsm. The Whelen ammo is much easier to find than the wsm.
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Count me in I suppose since anything for the 257 Roberts is pretty much non-existent.
I like it too. But I am beginning to believe the .270 is not cool anymore either.
D____ that 6.5 CM!
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:49 AM   #25
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Wife got a 250//3000 Ruger 77 lite weight ...Its a Swettie (she is too) I always been Partial to anything between .243---.264.. I do not like Recoil (I can handle it just don't need to with that list) no belted stuff in my Safe

Shot my fst buck with Rem pump (30 remington )it was Rem answer to 30-30...
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Sitting in the blind right now with my Gustav 96 in 6.5x55 with a 1901 date. Great shooting gun but those fine iron sites are made for younger eyes!

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Old 12-06-2017, 09:23 AM   #27
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and several of which I wish I had. The 300 H&H, 225 Win (my father has one) are just a few on the list of "wants". I had a 5mm Remington mag once, but sold it due to the lack of ammo availability.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:33 AM   #28
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and several of which I wish I had. The 300 H&H, 225 Win (my father has one) are just a few on the list of "wants". I had a 5mm Remington mag once, but sold it due to the lack of ammo availability.
I bought a pre-64 300 H&H a few years ago off here. Good gun but pretty obnoxious to shoot much. Now it just sits in the safe. My next obsolete cartridge/rifle will either be a 7x57 to round out my mausers, or a .220 Swift. Or perhaps a 218 Bee. The beauty of old calibers is you have so much to choose from!
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:35 AM   #29
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Yes, I am a fan of the old 6.5X55 Swede. I also like the 7X57 Mauser. I think the 300 Savage should make a comeback, think it has a lot of potential, that few have known.
I have wanted a 220 Swift for many years, never found the right rifle, when I had the money. I have wanted go get my hands on a old Winchester 1907 or 1910 in 351 and 401 Winchester Self loading, for a long time. I finally found one at a gun show, last month, I was looking for other pieces and found one, I was shocked to see it. I have not seen one in a very long time.

If I had lots of money, I would love to collect old double rifles in the old big bore African calibers, such as the 470 Nitro and 416 Rigby. I would really like to try some of the old European rounds such as the 9.3X62 and the 9.3X74. I have never had any experience with rounds like those.
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I have my grandfathers 7x61 S&H and 7x57 AI. He loved the wildcat cartridges. Both are extremely accurate and bring back great memories when they come out of the safe.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:13 AM   #32
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I have my grandfathers 7x61 S&H and 7x57 AI. He loved the wildcat cartridges. Both are extremely accurate and bring back great memories when they come out of the safe.

What 7 x 61 do you have? I scour the gun shows for that caliber.

If I had the money I'd have Alamo Precision build a 7 x 61 and a 6.5 X 55.
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I like it too. But I am beginning to believe the .270 is not cool anymore either.
D____ that 6.5 CM!
I shoot a 260 and am not in any way shape or form a 6.5CM fan hahaha
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Count me in I suppose since anything for the 257 Roberts is pretty much non-existent.
My father in law has a CZ (i believe its a model 527) chambered in 257 roberts.
He trimmed the stock about an inch to make it a youth gun. Stupid accurate little rifle. My wife and her siblings learned to hunt with it. Glad he bought a dozen boxes of ammo for it years ago. I cant seem to find any nowadays.
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I had a 404 Jeffery built a few years ago. Lovely big bore.
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My father in law has a CZ (i believe its a model 527) chambered in 257 roberts.
He trimmed the stock about an inch to make it a youth gun. Stupid accurate little rifle. My wife and her siblings learned to hunt with it. Glad he bought a dozen boxes of ammo for it years ago. I cant seem to find any nowadays.
Hell you cant find cases for it if your life depends on it. Only reason there are 25 cal components is due to other 25 cal chamberings. Sad state of affairs....
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If 257 Roberts cases are a problem make some from 6mm Remington or 7X57. Same case just different bullet diameter bullet
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The only obsolete cartridge gun I have is 455 Webley


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Forgot a few,
Not obsolete but not common 338 Federal and 307 Winchester
have a revolver is 38 S&W which would be obsolete but still made in limited runs.

The 5mm Remington Magnum is a fun one that Agulia put som life back into a few years ago now have a couple bricks+ 4 boxes of Remington ammo for mine.

22-243 is no big deal since know have to make brass from 243 for it. 223 WSSM is hard at times to find ammo for.

7mm-TCU wildcat but forming brass is easy.
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have a .40/82 hope to use on a hog this year afraid of the day when i need more ammo though LOL
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I've had my eye out for a shoot able 250-3000 for awhile now, wish that old Winchester chambered in 30-40 krag had been handed down and not been lost to an uncle addicted to pawn shops, an old 44-40, and my 22 hornet that's about as exotic as I got
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Savage and Remington both re made rifles in 250-3000, I have seen a few but I thought they cost more than they were worth.
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have a .40/82 hope to use on a hog this year afraid of the day when i need more ammo though LOL
What you got that 40-82 in? Winchester 1886 or 1885 ?
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I've had my eye out for a shoot able 250-3000 for awhile now, wish that old Winchester chambered in 30-40 krag had been handed down and not been lost to an uncle addicted to pawn shops, an old 44-40, and my 22 hornet that's about as exotic as I got

That's another on I have wanted for years, is the 250-3000. I have also wanted a 22 Hornet, 22 K Hornet and a 17 K Hornet.
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What 7 x 61 do you have? I scour the gun shows for that caliber.

If I had the money I'd have Alamo Precision build a 7 x 61 and a 6.5 X 55.
I don't know who the manufacturer was. It has very few markings on it and no names. I would like to find someone that could take a look at it and maybe tell me.
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I have a .300 Savage in a Super 14 TC. I had a .30 Herret barrel re-chambered to .300 Savage back in the late 80s. It is a handful but super accurate. I am looking for a .357 Maximum barrel for a TC at this time.
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Closest I can come is the old 30-30. No one can call it obsolete as it is still one of the most popular rounds around and new rifles made every day for it. But since it has been around for darn near a century and a half and was originally loaded with black powder (cause that's all there was )I'll call it a Classic!

PS, I have a 30 yr old Marlin chambered for that.
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I have a .300 Savage in a Super 14 TC. I had a .30 Herret barrel re-chambered to .300 Savage back in the late 80s. It is a handful but super accurate. I am looking for a .357 Maximum barrel for a TC at this time.

The 357 max is a cool round in the TC, had one for a while but sold it. Still have a Ruger in the mad max
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:51 AM   #49
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I have an almost brand new .257 Bob Model 70 featherweight, and a probably almost "shot out" model 70 .264 Mag...

I've found nothing yet that puts them down quite like that .264...I guess it's less obsolete than it was a few years ago though...

The 30-40 Krag, and 35 Whelen intrigue me though...and one day I would like to own a .404 Jeffrey.
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I have a .300 Savage in a Super 14 TC. I had a .30 Herret barrel re-chambered to .300 Savage back in the late 80s. It is a handful but super accurate. I am looking for a .357 Maximum barrel for a TC at this time.
At one time I had 3 contender frames and 14 barrels in different calibers. I just got one now, my first one I bought new in 1982. It has a 12" Bulberry 22LR Match barrel.
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