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Old 11-28-2017, 08:56 AM   #1
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Photographers and other know-it-alls...what do you think could have possible happened with this photo? It was one of my favorites as I viewed normally, but looking closely, the camera or something moved during the shot, in addition to a focus issue...which the pics before and after didn't have.

Settings are correct in the photo. It's clearly out of focus a tad but look at the light in the eyes. It appears their is camera shake? At those settings, that should not have happened. It was also on a tripod and the photo before and after were fine.

I'm a bit baffled even though the pic is not a keeper. Will being out of focus create that apparent camera movement appearance?

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Old 11-28-2017, 08:57 AM   #2
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Manual or auto focus?
(Sorry if I missed it)
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:21 AM   #3
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Manual or auto focus?
(Sorry if I missed it)
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:51 AM   #4
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If you were snapping touching the camera instead of remotely I would bet you slightly moved the camera without realizing it. I could see that happening at 1/200. That's all I got.

You need to sell me that lens cheap since you have the 2.8.
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:54 AM   #5
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Sometimes, if the light is juuuust right, I have to use mirror lock or I get this weird jiggly effect. My camera is probably no where near as good (or heavy) as yours, so I need to use mirror lock more often (probably); but that's what it looks like to me.

Where you shooting in burst or single? Sometimes in burst I will get two good shots and bad one like this as well (in three shot burst). I've read up on it a few times and I can't remember what exactly causes it, focus speed or back focus or something, I can't remember.

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Old 11-28-2017, 10:59 AM   #6
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Your cannooter valve is stuck.
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:04 AM   #7
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If you were snapping touching the camera instead of remotely I would bet you slightly moved the camera without realizing it. I could see that happening at 1/200. That's all I got.

You need to sell me that lens cheap since you have the 2.8.
Forgot to mention, taken with self timer.

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Sometimes, if the light is juuuust right, I have to use shutter lock or I get this weird jiggly effect. My camera is probably no where near as good (or heavy) as yours, so I need to use shutter lock more often (probably); but that's what it looks like to me.

Where you shooting in burst or single? Sometimes in burst I will get two good shots and bad one like this as well (in three shot burst). I've read up on it a few times and I can't remember what exactly causes it, focus speed or back focus or something, I can't remember.
Taken on single photo, self-timer. Focused, set timer, camera took photo.


Everything I can think of that would cause this is taken out of play by settings, approach, etc. All I can figure is that being out of focus created the appearance of camera shake. But, at 35mm and 1/200 shutter speed, camera shake would likely not be an issue.
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:10 AM   #8
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Forgot to mention, taken with self timer.



Taken on single photo, self-timer. Focused, set timer, camera took photo.


Everything I can think of that would cause this is taken out of play by settings, approach, etc. All I can figure is that being out of focus created the appearance of camera shake. But, at 35mm and 1/200 shutter speed, camera shake would likely not be an issue.
Given all of this, I think it could still be the mirror causing the movement. I said shutter lock earlier but I meant mirror lock up. But, it could just be out of focus...
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:13 AM   #9
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Maybe the subject broke the camera???

Just kidding. I have nothing helpful to add since Iím new to photography hence the joke.

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Old 11-28-2017, 11:18 AM   #10
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Was your IS on?
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:31 AM   #11
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Casey,
Why do you shoot iso 100?
I know when we used film it made a difference in grain but now that’s been eleminated.

I will see if I can send one I took a few days ago.
But back to your question did any more turn out like that?
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:44 AM   #12
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This was iso400 no flash canon 100-400 4.0 L is
Hand held snapshot
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:46 AM   #13
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Wow thatís an impressive shot


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Old 11-28-2017, 11:54 AM   #14
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I'd guess it was an AF issue since you used a tripod and timer. Sometimes the AF just has a brainfart.
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:09 PM   #15
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Operator error would be my guess!
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:16 PM   #16
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May be AF [ ] was set outside of the subject.
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:17 PM   #17
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Was your IS on?
X2. Image stabilization sometimes gets confused when the camera is perfectly still. It could also be that the camera picked a different focus point for that particular shot that was at a different distance than your subject.
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:59 PM   #18
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I'd guess it was an AF issue since you used a tripod and timer. Sometimes the AF just has a brainfart.
Or you hit focus and the lens fished for it but missed it.
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:14 PM   #19
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how about... the subject in the picture moved??? sounds like the camera was set properly.
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:18 PM   #20
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I've had this happen before. Somehow, I had hit the AF/MF slide just enough to put it in between the two. Everything looked great when I took the pic. Saw them on the computer and was on a mission to figure out why. Saw it when I looked at the lens. You'd think that would have taught me a lesson to always check that feature...but it has happened twice. (I'll just claim blonde!)
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:01 PM   #21
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Pictures before and after are fine as far as being sharp goes. I know it's out of focus but that catchlight indicates some sort of shake. I'm fairly confident the IS was turned off as I recall checking that. It is a family pic and others in the pic look the same so not subject movement.

It screams too slow a shutter speed but that's not the case.

Here is the one following. In focus, no camera shake...same exact everything else.
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JWHunt, I shoot at various ISOs and while I agree that it makes LESS difference than with film, I've never heard it suggested that shooting at lower ISOs is a bad thing.
Great shot by the way.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:08 PM   #22
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I think the catch light is out of focus, so it is bigger, and the bottom of the blurred circle is where the brightest light showed up. Just a guess though. Weird.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:14 PM   #23
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Hey Casey,
What about focus being set on auto servo?

Just a thought
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:29 PM   #24
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Even the tree in the background is less sharp in the first than the second. And it looks a little darker too, considering it's the same exposure settings. Do you think something could have passed in front of the lens? Like an insect or something? It kind of reminds me of shooting a bird through foliage where the foliage itself is just a darkness, but the bird is thrown out of focus as well.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:36 PM   #25
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I think the catch light is out of focus, so it is bigger, and the bottom of the blurred circle is where the brightest light showed up. Just a guess though. Weird.
I'm starting to lean this way the more I look at it. It sure looks like camera shake but I think it's just the way the out of focus catchlight appears. It had me concerned the camera stroked out on me or something.
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