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Old 12-04-2017, 11:07 PM   #851
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I grew up still hunting in West Virginia, but it just seemed easier there because there was much more of an abundance of deer. I've never really tried it here in Texas.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:18 PM   #852
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I grew up still hunting in West Virginia, but it just seemed easier there because there was much more of an abundance of deer. I've never really tried it here in Texas.


Even though it has yet to be fruitful for me, I have still hunted a handful of times. I have always enjoyed it, as I just enjoy moving around. My lease is not a good place to still hunt, too small, not very diverse terrain, no bedding areas etc. hopefully the wind is blowing good tomorrow!


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Old 12-04-2017, 11:58 PM   #853
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Hopefully you get one tomorrow during your still hunt, or if you are at the same place I am hopefully you push one my way haha.

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Old 12-05-2017, 01:03 AM   #854
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Its just its getting late in season! Man my pride went out the window a week ago. Its a legal buck im drawing on it.
Seriously it ain't a pride issue, I'd be happy to shoot this buck and I know how hard it is just to come by any deer out here, but im not hungry, ive got venison in the freezer, and I have a goal set that I won't compromise. Y'all go get you one! I'll be happy for ya. I'll be back on Wednesday. I think I'm probably gonna stick with this spot til season ends. I have a good feeling about it.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:11 AM   #855
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I have still hunted a bunch and been good at getting hogs in spring. No luck with deer get with in range but they know I'm there and are spooked and watchful. Think I might start trying to use a good camera instead of my bow. I only do this though when no trucks are in parking area and way up in were I have not seen anyone.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:15 AM   #856
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I have still hunted a bunch and been good at getting hogs in spring. No luck with deer get with in range but they know I'm there and are spooked and watchful. Think I might start trying to use a good camera instead of my bow. I only do this though when no trucks are in parking area and way up in were I have not seen anyone.


Thatís my plan, I donít want to intentionally disturb anyone.


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Old 12-05-2017, 02:11 PM   #857
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Had a great time this morning. No one else was there, so did some still hunting around while scouting for some spots. Saw over 20 deer total. Snuck within 60 yards of about 10 deer, 1 was a very nice 8, and another was a shooter, couldnít tell exactly how big he was though, was trying to move with the wind, but the leaves gave me away and they high tailed it out of there. Busted up another big buck, got walked up within 10 yard of him before he busted out of his bed, wish I had seen him before he was me!


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Old 12-05-2017, 05:36 PM   #858
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Best time is early morning in valleys or draws so grounds wet or during rain if your lucky to get any.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:25 PM   #859
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I'll be back this weekend. Going to camp out there.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:02 PM   #860
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Does anyone know of a good tracking dog in the area?
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:40 PM   #861
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Nice out tonight. Didn't see anything but will be in the stand all day tomorrow. Sleeping in my car..... too cold for a tent without all the right gear.
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:04 PM   #862
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That’s dedication
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:41 PM   #863
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Havenít seen a buck on the hoof or camera at any of my spots in the last week. Itís like they left for vacation all of a sudden. Gonna give it a run again tomorrow before the weekend pressure hits.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:10 AM   #864
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:20 AM   #865
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Nice out tonight. Didn't see anything but will be in the stand all day tomorrow. Sleeping in my car..... too cold for a tent without all the right gear.
Yeah, sleep? What's that?
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:34 AM   #866
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Anyone out here hear some pigs squealin?
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:39 AM   #867
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Anyone out here hear some pigs squealin?
In my dreams, all the time.

The fish are biting, and there's hogs to be kilt. Gotta go!
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:15 AM   #868
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Anyone lose a brown pup with white chest? No collar
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:04 PM   #869
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So how did the hunting go yesterday Super Six-Four?
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:32 PM   #870
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Had 4 doe coming in behind me this morning, but wind was straight to them. Busted me. But a buddy of mine got a doe at 7:15 this morning. Wind has gotten bad and not good for my spot for evening hunt, so I’m going to sit in my buddies stand where he shot the doe. Hope wind calms down some before dark.
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Old 12-09-2017, 04:44 PM   #871
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Switchback I that happened to me the other day with 2 doe, the wind was swirling and they winded me. Ended up seeing 6 doe and a small buck that day though. Hope you get one this afternoon, I wont be able to make it back out till Wed and Thur.

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Old 12-09-2017, 05:05 PM   #872
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Thanks Dave. This is the second week in a row so I need to build another blind on other side or just find another spot. Probably going to find a new spot soon anyway. Been telling myself for years I was going to jump around and not hunt the same spot all year like usual. So this year I’m going to do that. 3 or 4 weeks and hunt some of the other spots I’ve found over the years but never hunted! So far I’ve hunted 3 different places. Time for another. It’s not an evening spot and only got 1 group of doe on camera. Maybe 1 pig. Will know tonight when I get home and look at pictures on my computer.
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:24 PM   #873
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Switchback how did the evening hunt go?
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:35 PM   #874
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Punched my first corp land tag of the season this evening.


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Old 12-09-2017, 09:38 PM   #875
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Bow In Hand nicely done! And nice shot placement!
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:44 PM   #876
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So how did the hunting go yesterday Super Six-Four?
Beautiful day out, saw a couple toward the middle of the day. Heard a large group of pigs come in 10 min after dark...
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:26 PM   #877
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:48 PM   #878
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Congrats on your first. Nice work
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:09 AM   #879
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Old 12-10-2017, 12:03 PM   #880
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Congrats and nice shot!
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Old 12-10-2017, 12:53 PM   #881
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Anyone lose a brown pup with white chest? No collar
Boxer by chance? PM me if so. Neighbor is missing a boy and girl both the same.
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Old 12-10-2017, 02:09 PM   #882
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Congrats Bow in Hand. Sure wish I could have made it out this weekend.
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Old 12-10-2017, 02:22 PM   #883
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Nothing for the evening hunt yesterday. But did brush my buddies stand in really good for him. Least I could do since he lets me sit there on occasion.

Congrats bow in hand. Nice shot.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:47 PM   #884
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Do a lot of people leave their stands? What's the chance of it getting taken or are most people honest around here? What about game wardens? Or do you recommend covering and hiding?
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:49 AM   #885
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Do a lot of people leave their stands? What's the chance of it getting taken or are most people honest around here? What about game wardens? Or do you recommend covering and hiding?
I recommend you not leaving it like the policies state. We have hardly any public land to hunt here in Texas. If we don't take care of it we may end up with none.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:06 PM   #886
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I recommend you not leaving it like the policies state. We have hardly any public land to hunt here in Texas. If we don't take care of it we may end up with none.
Understand ya. I'm new to public land and just seemed like I've read quite a few messages that make it seem like people do. Me personally I don't even own one, I'm new to it all. I'm still at ground level, literally...haha. I was kinda seeing how hard the wardens were also.
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Nice shot BowinHand!
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Old 12-11-2017, 05:52 PM   #888
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Understand ya. I'm new to public land and just seemed like I've read quite a few messages that make it seem like people do. Me personally I don't even own one, I'm new to it all. I'm still at ground level, literally...haha. I was kinda seeing how hard the wardens were also.


They could be referring to a made stand. You can use downed limbs and such to make your own blind or stand. But you cannot cut those limbs, they have to already be downed.


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Old 12-11-2017, 07:04 PM   #889
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Rule says if it don't hurt the tree you can use it and leave it out I lock mine. But when not I actual use must be removed. I ask game warden one day when he walked by my spot and we went over rules on web site right there. Pop up must be removed everyday after hunt or the can repo them and cameras. Google Whitney hunting and look at policies.
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:43 PM   #890
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I understand y'all. I read the policies, I was just kinda asking a general question I guess. If I use anything, it'd be a ground blind and I'd for sure not leave it out there. And I see, Jeremy, where they could have actually been referring to rebrushing a ground blind so to speak without doing any damage to the limbs.
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:54 PM   #891
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Rule says if it don't hurt the tree you can use it and leave it out I lock mine. But when not I actual use must be removed. I ask game warden one day when he walked by my spot and we went over rules on web site right there. Pop up must be removed everyday after hunt or the can repo them and cameras. Google Whitney hunting and look at policies.
You are only partially correct. You can not cut any vegetation of any type. That goes for dead trees as well. You can not push them over to clear an area for shooting lanes. But you can use stuff that is already "laying" on the ground that has fallen from a tree. Or one that has fallen over on it's own. That is considered "Loose material".

And you can not leave a stand. It must be removed when the hunt is over. I have personally seen ACE searching for, and remove stands that were left in trees, locked with chain or cables. They sometimes carry ladders and a cutting torch with them.

It's also very easy to report someone that is breaking the rules by leaving a stand. All a person has to do is take the GPS coordinates with their cell phone and e-mail them to ACE. They are very prompt about stand removal. I'm not saying I've ever done that. But know some hunters that do.

From the ACE Whitney/Aquilla web sight:

"HUNTING BLINDS & GAME CAMERAS
Natural hunting blinds made of loose materials or portable blinds are authorized for hunting deer or waterfowl. No standing vegetation, live or dead, may be cut for any purpose. Hunting blinds may not be built in, nailed or screwed to trees. Tree stands are restricted to portable, non-bark penetrating types only. Stands must be removed when not in actual use. Hunting blinds must be removed and transported after each hunt. The abandonment of property is prohibited and will result in the items being confiscated. Screw in or nail in tree steps and spikes are prohibited. Game cameras may be used but MUST be removed at the end of each hunt. Any items left will be confiscated."

and it goes on to say:


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Violators of any of these provisions are subject to a fine and/or loss of hunting privileges. By accepting a hunting permit, hunters agree that they have been furnished a copy of the rules, understand its entirety and agree to comply with all applicable state and federal laws."






Perhaps your "game warden" needs a refresher on the web rules. Or maybe you misunderstood him/her. Further more, if it was an ACE person in a green uniform with a badge and no gun, it was a ranger. And not a "game warden". They do help enforce their rules. But when it comes to the federal level of wardens, then it would be a US Fish and Wildlife Federal Warden on any federal lands. USFW Service Wardens are allowed to carry fire arms. Rangers are not, at the present. USFW Wardens are allowed to go to any federal lands and protect widllife. Rangers have an assigned "project" to protect. But they can write you citations and press criminal charges just like any other officer. I have run across USFW Wardens doing work. They will ID them selves as such when approaching you, just like a "State Game Warden", or any other peace officer will. And most of the "State Game Wardens" are only interested in enforcing state game laws and regulations, not the rules that ACE has put forth for Whitney about tree stand, vegetation, ect. You may find state game wardens out there on federal lands checking hunters for compliance also. If a "Ranger" finds a game violation, they usually call a local state game warden. Then issue citations on top of what the state warden dose. so you have a double en-dimity to pay for violations on Federal lands, on top of restitution for both . Just hope a Federal Warden never has to confront you for violations. You won't like it at all.



Hope this clears up a few things for those who won't go to the web sight. I don't mind refreshing my memory. Or checking for updates. I had to do that my self not long ago. Right Razorback?
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:05 PM   #892
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Almost forgot, I left out Federal Marshals, Federal Police, and State Police. But I'll spare yall the details on ACE lands. USFS is another story too.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:00 PM   #893
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Okay, well if all that was directed at me, I have already " went to the website". I was just asking a general question because it is obvious reading through the messages that there are multiple people on here not actually following the policies, so I was just asking. I wanted to know for myself, for example, maybe if I got multiple people with me and a permit isnt in the window for all maybe we forgot to put it up there, I was just asking to understand how strict they are. That is all. I figured some of y'all would know them or maybe ran across them and had stories. I can already tell you I try to stick to policy. I can also tell you that if I have to lug my stuff in and out per policy, you can bet I'll be one writing down coordinates. It is only fair to stick to the policy for everybody. I was not trying to start a big issue between members though.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:23 PM   #894
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Wasn't directed at you Arborist. It was for everybody's education. I just don't like seeing people get into trouble because someone went on hear say rather than fact. There are a lot more readers here than members that post. Sometimes people get into trouble for readin g hear say rather than the facts. I do applaud you for taking the time and reading the rules .

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Old 12-11-2017, 10:35 PM   #895
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If ACE doesn’t get your stand then someone will eventually get it. Just ask me how I know.
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If ACE doesnít get your stand then someone will eventually get it. Just ask me how I know.
That's why I will just choose to take it with me...lol. I was hoping this type of people would be honest, but I guess there are always thieves everywhere.
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Wasn't directed at you Arborist. It was for everybody's education. I just don't like seeing people get into trouble because someone went on hear say rather than fact. There are a lot more readers here than members that post. Sometimes people get into trouble for readin g hear say rather than the facts. I do applaud you for taking the time and reading the rules .

The fish are biting, and there's hogs to be kilt. Gotta go!

Thanks for clarifying. There will always be " the ones" who don't listen. I am starting to learn some people must think it is easier to lower their hand on the ground with trash in it, rather than raising their hand to the bed of their truck and getting rid of that trash...lol
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Question or more of a suggestion: Has anyone ever tried to organize some type of cleanup day or something? Maybe just a group of guys going from parking to parking. Or is that a pipe dream?
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Old 12-11-2017, 11:11 PM   #899
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That's why I will just choose to take it with me...lol. I was hoping this type of people would be honest, but I guess there are always thieves everywhere.
There are lots of great people on here. The locals are usually the ones you have to worry about. Some of them fill that itís there land.
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There are lots of great people on here. The locals are usually the ones you have to worry about. Some of them fill that itís there land.
Oh yea. I haven't been hunting here long enough to really run into locals or anybody for that matter...lol. I've talked to I think only 2 guys since I been going so far.
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