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Old 01-18-2017, 09:14 PM   #51
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I wonder if there were parking lot camera's, or some bystander rolling on it? I guess time will tell the tale.
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:14 PM   #52
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I agree. Be nice to know the whole story, but one thing is for sure.....only one person gets to tell their side of this one.
My thoughts as well.
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:32 PM   #53
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Would like to know the whole story. Kinda sounds like the victim confronted the shooter as shooter was in his car. If some angry mofo came to my door threatening me and claiming to have a gun, and then reached behind his back, he might get shot. LEOs shoot unarmed people who they "think" may have a gun quite often. Every secnario is different.
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The way I read it, it was the other way around. The shooter was the one who had his door dinged and the guy who got shot was in his car, hence the head/face shots. I could be wrong.

Smith and the suspect were discussing what police called a “door ding” to the suspect’s car, reportedly made by Smith, when the conversation deteriorated, police said in a news release.

Each told the other they had guns, and while the suspect was in his vehicle, Smith reportedly made a threatening move and reached behind his back. The suspect, who has a handgun license, told police he thought Smith was reaching for a gun when he shot him, the news release said.



Suspect is the guy who ended the argument.... Smith is the guy who was shot...

Suspect (shooter) was in his car... the one that got dinged...

Smith was up against the car and reached as if to draw a weapon...

(my personal opinion here... not a good idea after stating "I got a gun")

Smith’s wife, Alishia Smith, said he was shot five to six times from less than 5 feet away, with several shots hitting his face and chest.

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:33 PM   #54
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Aha I see. Wonder why the guy with the door ding was in his car though, retrieving a weapon possibly? Nobody is ever going to know the real full story.

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:39 PM   #55
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Aha I see. Wonder why the guy with the door ding was in his car though, retrieving a weapon possibly?
Who knows... I've been sitting in my pickup waiting on the wife and had a-oles ding my door... usually immediately followed by a comment about their heritage from this old man,
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:58 PM   #56
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I experienced a family shooting situation many years ago with my own family over something stupid like this.... a spilt bag of sugar on the counter, escalated to the point where my cousin shot my uncle in the chest with a 44 mag....

It simply rips the family to pieces and all over something so simple and meaningless... my uncle failed to control his anger and it cost him his life... he was a former Baptist preacher/ Rancher.




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Old 01-22-2017, 02:34 PM   #57
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Update....looks like its being presented to the DA on Tuesday. We'll see.....
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/lo...127711629.html
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:05 PM   #58
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I agree. Be nice to know the whole story, but one thing is for sure.....only one person gets to tell their side of this one.
I expect that there will be multiple surveillance cameras on the parking lot. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle between the two stories but like you said in this case there is only one story to be told.
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:06 PM   #59
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Would like to know the whole story. Kinda sounds like the victim confronted the shooter as shooter was in his car. If some angry mofo came to my door threatening me and claiming to have a gun, and then reached behind his back, he might get shot.
In this case it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

Either way there is no good outcome.
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Old 01-22-2017, 05:09 PM   #60
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I think what's going to bite the chl holder in the rear end is the fact he shot him 5-6 times; especially if any shots were to the "face"...shot placement says a lot of the situation, as is taught in the class.


Huh? Unless you've been actually in a firefight, and know a little more about what's all involved.

I say to all who have made comments, the entire story is probably not known to the public. Just because arrested and charged, still a long process to go. Could be BS deal but the PD decided they want to let a grand jury to look at it and decide. Personally, probably should have just referred it to GJ without arrest, but knowing what I know about the PD (worked their for 25-years) somebody probably thought it would be better on them to make the arrest.


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Old 01-22-2017, 05:11 PM   #61
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2 yrs later and still no trial. Next hearing is 2/20/17


What happened two years ago?


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Old 01-22-2017, 06:36 PM   #62
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So, a guy who is arguing with you tells you he has a gun and then reaches behind his back like he is drawing and you shoot him. Wow...

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Old 01-22-2017, 06:42 PM   #63
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Good deal on the murder charge. We don't need those kind of people having CHLs.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:43 PM   #64
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Have they released the murder suspects name yet?
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:51 PM   #65
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No confirmation that the victim said he had a gun or reached behind his back.

That's all on the shooters word.

He's in deep doodoo.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:49 PM   #66
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Good deal on the murder charge. We don't need those kind of people having CHLs.


Really? It's not going to be a "good deal" if the shoot is found to be good.


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Old 01-22-2017, 08:28 PM   #67
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Found this in the comments section. If true the victim was a felon.
http://texas.arrests.org/Arrests/Sam_Smith_22459790/
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Old 01-22-2017, 08:33 PM   #68
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Retired cop shot a man in a movie theater in an argument.
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Old 01-22-2017, 08:39 PM   #69
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I dont think there is enough evidence from what has been presented to hold up in court. The guy says he felt his life was endanger and he reacted accordingly. The state will have to prove otherwise.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:02 PM   #70
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The other jacked up cases I follow are Michael Slager, who I believe got a mistrial for a second time this week
Sentenced to 20 years today
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:10 PM   #71
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Best to de-escalate
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