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Old 05-05-2014, 11:08 AM   #101
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Mom and Dad are seriously considering purchasing a ranch that has a 6 acre lake and a 12 acre lake. If this happens then I am goingto borrow your ideas. I would have to seriously consider stocking threadfin shad. They do not get near as big as gizzards. As far as gizzards go I think the larger the body the water the less chance of them being a nusciance.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:07 AM   #102
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Awesome looking fish pond...thought out very well.
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Ride Klein, YES... that is a great resource. Seen it, it's real.

Interesting article, but the issue of concern with gizzard shad was not addressed. The author supposes the primary issue is competition between shad and very young game fish. So they rotenoned a lake and killed off the shad, the game fish population didn't change and the gizzard shad population rebounded quickly. Remember that, "quickly".

Then goes on to say, "And what was the result of this research? The researchers found no improvement, no change in sportfish populations. In addition, in the following years, as gizzard shad populations recovered to pretreatment levels, when you would expect to see the negative effect of gizzard shad competition, there was still no change in sportfish populations."

There isn't any argument that soft bodied, fast growing, prodigious gizzard shad are a great source of nutrition. The problem evidently is how fast they breed and the effects of their breeding on the rest of the body of water. It's not direct competition with young fish though. Why didn't anyone ask why the population of game fish did not change? The shad rebounded quickly and the game fish population remained the same. The shads' spawn was successful enough to grow the population back to what it had been, but the game fish remained the same? As stated in Ride's source (PondBoss) you're going to (at some point) carry a high percentage of unusable shad take up space in the tank.
As always, thanks for your input. Hopefully this tank will grow bass that can eat a 10lb shad easily (joking of course).

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I agree better put you a duck blind out their for it gets to late
Never too late for a duck blind. Our group has the duck fever pretty heavy and I'm sure it will get hunted eventually but for now duck blind plans are on hold for two reasons. Some thought that this tank can serve as a resting area. There's a couple great duck holes/sloughs on this property all ready and we're hoping some quiet water will help keep them around. Second, gotta see where the birds like to be before building a blind. The second reason is very counter to the first, but if it doesn't work as a rest area then we'll watch it and see where the birds prefer. The owner doesn't go half way on projects so helps to be patient before pouring a foundation for a duck blind (mostly joking).

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When can you start on mine?
Happily trade you lake ideas/labor for blind building. Your projects are inspiring.

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Mom and Dad are seriously considering purchasing a ranch that has a 6 acre lake and a 12 acre lake. If this happens then I am goingto borrow your ideas. I would have to seriously consider stocking threadfin shad. They do not get near as big as gizzards. As far as gizzards go I think the larger the body the water the less chance of them being a nusciance.
Thanks to Bobcat and others I'm learning a ton about fish/pond management. We haven't high fenced the lake yet, but something tells me that's coming
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:11 AM   #103
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How deep is ya'lls lake?
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:38 AM   #104
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:05 PM   #105
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How deep is ya'lls lake?
17-18' at the deepest, but that's a pretty small area.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:32 AM   #106
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looks like a nice place
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:05 AM   #107
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There have been a couple of ponds dug like that up here in the Panhandle on one of the ranches I hunt. It's been 3 years and they're still just holes in the ground. Looks like one of the main ingredients for a pond is water !!!!
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:38 PM   #108
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There have been a couple of ponds dug like that up here in the Panhandle on one of the ranches I hunt. It's been 3 years and they're still just holes in the ground. Looks like one of the main ingredients for a pond is water !!!!
The well should help, but we're keeping our fingers crossed for some free water from the lord above.
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:43 PM   #109
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They worked some more on it this weekend. Unfortunately, I didn't get to join them and snap pictures, but they are better carpenters than photographers.

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Finishing out the inside of the fishing room on the dock

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Insulated so the wives will be happy

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Shot of the cedar siding on the outside of the fishing room at the dock.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:16 PM   #110
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Following this one. Very cool indeed.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:24 PM   #111
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pretty cool
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:50 PM   #112
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Looks awesome!!!
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:28 PM   #113
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Can't wait to see the finished product.
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:40 PM   #114
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I can see Bill Dance out there in his full size bass boat dragging a 10 lb bass back and forth trying to make it jump.

Lots of work, but it'll be awesome when it's done.
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:52 PM   #115
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I'm really enjoying this thread.
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:24 PM   #116
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It should have caught some water the last couple weeks too.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:21 PM   #117
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That's cool. Wish I could build a pond on my hillcountry ranch
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:43 PM   #118
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They got close to 3" of rain out there in the last set of storms. We should be heading that way in the next week or so to see how much the water came up.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:54 PM   #119
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I am severely jealous of this! gonna be sweet once its all ready to rip lips. Coolest thing ever, i'd be down to help test it out
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:06 PM   #120
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Awesome!!!!!!!! That's down right beautiful!
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:32 PM   #121
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Looks like the boys are back at work today. I'm stuck in the office while they're playing on rented iron. They were nice enough to send me this pic.

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Sounds like they're making a few more peninsulas, points, and a couple humps in the shallows.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:20 AM   #122
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Heading out on Sunday to get back at it. Water level didn't come up as much as they hoped with the rain the week before, but they kicked the well on last weekend.
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:20 PM   #123
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This is one awesome fishing hole yall have going here. Yall may have already subscribed or found them online but Pond Boss is a great informational magazine and their website gives great info for building, developing and maintaining ponds/lakes like the one yall are making.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:37 PM   #124
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When is the pond/lake expected to get to full pool? Do you think it will happen by next spring, or by end of June?
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:48 PM   #125
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Great looking set-up. Hope they let you use it whenever you want for all the work you are putting into it...
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:50 PM   #126
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This is one awesome fishing hole yall have going here. Yall may have already subscribed or found them online but Pond Boss is a great informational magazine and their website gives great info for building, developing and maintaining ponds/lakes like the one yall are making.
We call the owner "boss man" so it is fitting that now he's the pond boss

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When is the pond/lake expected to get to full pool? Do you think it will happen by next spring, or by end of June?
I have no idea, but the well makes good water and I'll take a few pics this weekend to see how much it has come up in a week.

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Great looking set-up. Hope they let you use it whenever you want for all the work you are putting into it...
Owner is good as gold and treated me like family since the day we met. Couldn't ask for a better friend and I'm happy to do help him work on this and any other project whether I use it or not.
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Old 05-23-2014, 04:05 PM   #127
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Following this one. Very cool indeed.
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Looks awesome!!!
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Can't wait to see the finished product.
Appreciate y'all following along.

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I can see Bill Dance out there in his full size bass boat dragging a 10 lb bass back and forth trying to make it jump.

Lots of work, but it'll be awesome when it's done.
Bill Dance has caught more 3lb 10lbers than most of us could in a lifetime of campfires.


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It should have caught some water the last couple weeks too.
Dale, in a year from now we need to talk fishing rights as a trade for a good deal on fishing condos.

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That's cool. Wish I could build a pond on my hillcountry ranch
Lots more rock to deal with your direction. A friend of ours rebuild a tank **** on his place in the hill country and they were able to use all the big rocks and ledges that came naturally in the draw into one heck of a fishing hole.

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Old 05-27-2014, 06:41 PM   #128
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Got out there this weekend and worked on the lake a little bit. Took a bunch of pictures, but for some reason my phone was acting up and most are blurry. The water level has come up about 3' from the last time I was there. Lake looks different and it was teaming with bait. Pretty amazing how quickly bait can multiply when there aren't any predators.

Enough talking, on with the pictures.

This is the road up to the lake from below the spillway. You just catch a glimpse of the boat house.
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Here's the boat house as you crest the spillway. They angled the walkway to get the boathouse pointed at the prevailing wind. Worked perfectly this weekend. Sure felt great to have the wind blowing across the water and onto you while sitting on the dock.
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View from along the d@mn. The little ledge hanging off the front corner is a swim ledge. It will be under 1-2" of water when its full.
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Two stalls and room for two more. We cut cedar trees this weekend and stuffed them under the dock as habitat for the bait fish.
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Inside of the tackle room
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Outside of the tackle room
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:50 AM   #129
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View from the dock looking South over the water. We added a couple cedars to the tip of the brush pile just right of the hump covered in logs and rocks.

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Standing on the d@mn looking from the dock and then down the lake.

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From the South side of the d@mn
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:01 AM   #130
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The pictures of minnows didn't come out, but this bunch of tadpoles shows the kind of groups that were everywhere.

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Water is starting to cover the kids "honey hole"

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Looking down the North bank from one of the fish feeder piers.

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This is an island that is just south of the fish feeder pier. Big cut in front of it with the burned layover log is completely covered and the fish boxes are just peaking above the water between the two trees.

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Biggest reason this lake was built was for the kids. They wore out the trolling motor "tubing" all weekend. The oldest could give a Bassmaster pro a run for their money in the trolling motor department.
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:44 AM   #131
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Looks like a great place, everyone there is truly blessed.
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:45 AM   #132
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This has been one of my favorite threads of TBH so far. Thanks for all the updates.

It seems like y'all really did the research and have clearly put in the time and its going to become a fishing mecca, with a splash or two of duck hunting maybe.

Enjoying all the pictures and posts, keep em coming
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:13 AM   #133
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What a cool project!!! Building a lake like that from start to finish is one of my dreams.

Not sure where you guys have gotten you stocker fish from so far, but Overton Fisheries on I45 between Buffalo & Centerville might me a place to consider for your bass. Their "Camelot Bell" strain might be of intereset.

http://www.overtonfisheries.com/

I'll agree with others as well that waiting 1yr from stocking forage to stocking predators (LMB) is ideal.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:17 AM   #134
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That is a sweet looking setup. My only concern would be the fact the cabin is built below the da m line. In a bad flood I see that thing going under water. Even with a good spillway it can happen. I hope its just the pics but it looks to be lower than top of the da m. 4-5 years ago my folks 7 acre pond crested the dam even with a 20' wide spillway that was 4' below the top of the dam. They had to re do the whole da m due to it eroding the backside of the da m once it spilled over. Basically more coming in than could escape and caused a massive headache. We never thought it would happen. Cost 30k to fix
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:09 PM   #135
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Looks like a great place, everyone there is truly blessed.
Thank you. Been a lot of fun so far and definitely blessed to be a part of it.

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This has been one of my favorite threads of TBH so far. Thanks for all the updates.

It seems like y'all really did the research and have clearly put in the time and its going to become a fishing mecca, with a splash or two of duck hunting maybe.

Enjoying all the pictures and posts, keep em coming
Appreciate the compliments and thanks for following a long.

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What a cool project!!! Building a lake like that from start to finish is one of my dreams.

Not sure where you guys have gotten you stocker fish from so far, but Overton Fisheries on I45 between Buffalo & Centerville might me a place to consider for your bass. Their "Camelot Bell" strain might be of intereset.

http://www.overtonfisheries.com/

I'll agree with others as well that waiting 1yr from stocking forage to stocking predators (LMB) is ideal.
The owner has a fish guy he really likes. Guy seems to have steered him right in the past. The Bass that are going in are all fry size as I understand it.

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That is a sweet looking setup. My only concern would be the fact the cabin is built below the da m line. In a bad flood I see that thing going under water. Even with a good spillway it can happen. I hope its just the pics but it looks to be lower than top of the da m. 4-5 years ago my folks 7 acre pond crested the dam even with a 20' wide spillway that was 4' below the top of the dam. They had to re do the whole da m due to it eroding the backside of the da m once it spilled over. Basically more coming in than could escape and caused a massive headache. We never thought it would happen. Cost 30k to fix
The dock is definitely below the level of the da m. The spillway is pretty large on this one and the water level has been shot all around the lake with a transit. At full pool the dock will be just a 5 inches above the water line so the risk for the water level getting over the dock is a real one. The calculations beyond that are above my pay grade.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:18 PM   #136
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Coming along great, can't wait to see you cranking big ol bass out of that thing!
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:19 PM   #137
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Moving up the North Shoreline. They rented a dozer to work over the shallow area last weekend while I was stuck in the office. All this area was high and dry last weekend.

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New small cut running into the channel on the right

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Big hump against a tree to help mark it.

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Added a mound around this stump just off the channel

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A view looking into the far East shallow end. The rest of my pictures down here were real fuzzy and don't show anything, but the trees you can see just the the left should be just a few inches under water to help grow grass and make a spawning area. There's a channel around the island that will be 2.5-3' deep so you can run a boat around it.

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View looking down the main channel heading back towards the main body of the lake.

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They added a bunch of these cuts and little mini drops along the shallow area. Not sure how long they will last, but while they do it should provide ambush areas. We'll see if they are in enough water to be productive.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:52 AM   #138
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It's like every 2 feet there is another honey hole you guys created. I bet you could cast a line anywhere in this place and pull out fish. I bet the bass get nice and fat.
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:01 AM   #139
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Place looks better each time... How much rain did yall get these last few days?
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:04 AM   #140
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I've came back to this thread several times to see the progress. Each time I get more and more jealous. What a great project and something you can enjoy for generations and years to come.
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:08 AM   #141
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this is coming along very nicely. Keep the pics coming!!!
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:08 AM   #142
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Excited to see another update so quick.

I'm trying to think of what could make this place more awesome but nothing is coming to mind. Maybe a draw bridge...
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:12 AM   #143
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Wow looks great!

I can't believe how clear the water is....usually a new pond with all that red dirt it could stay muddy for several years unless you treat it with Aluminum Sulfate or Gypsum.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:00 PM   #144
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I'm in for the follow. This looks great!
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:14 PM   #145
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Dang, thats a good looking lake! Thats going be a blast to fish once its completed and stocked.
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:40 PM   #146
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It's like every 2 feet there is another honey hole you guys created. I bet you could cast a line anywhere in this place and pull out fish. I bet the bass get nice and fat.
Thanks. It's funny, as the lake fills we keep forgetting where things were and saying "wish we'd taken a picture of that spot"

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Place looks better each time... How much rain did yall get these last few days?
Not much, think they got 2 tenths

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I've came back to this thread several times to see the progress. Each time I get more and more jealous. What a great project and something you can enjoy for generations and years to come.
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this is coming along very nicely. Keep the pics coming!!!
Appreciate it

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Excited to see another update so quick.

I'm trying to think of what could make this place more awesome but nothing is coming to mind. Maybe a draw bridge...
Ha, Then we'd need a bigger island.

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Wow looks great!

I can't believe how clear the water is....usually a new pond with all that red dirt it could stay muddy for several years unless you treat it with Aluminum Sulfate or Gypsum.
Another small tank on the place has filled up from runoff only. It is still pretty murky.

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Dang, thats a good looking lake! Thats going be a blast to fish once its completed and stocked.
Appreciate it.
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:55 PM   #147
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Moving out of the shallows now.

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Gravel, Gravel, Gravel. Pea Gravel is a bad word on the green screen and to my back. The whole south bank has the gravel spawning beds.

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Another little mound that drops into the channel behind it.

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This is very cool. They fashioned an old tank da m off the end of the middle point. Dug out deep on the left. The whole thing is covered in gravel now as well.

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Another cut that runs side of the old tank da m. Also covered in gravel.
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:16 PM   #148
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Thanks for another update.


Seeing the fishing dock way in the back of those pictures puts it in a better perspective for me
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:02 PM   #149
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Thanks for another update.


Seeing the fishing dock way in the back of those pictures puts it in a better perspective for me
Wish I could get an aerial to show the layout. The panoramas don't show it as well as something from above.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:13 PM   #150
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Last ones from this past weekend.

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Long sloping point with gravel beds and the lake inspector photo bombing. The two orange flags in this picture represent the final water level.

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Farther down the bank. On the far left side you can see a rock pile just barely sticking up. There's another rock pile just beyond the grass at center that is all ready under. You can see the very tips of the brush out in the center. We marked the larger deep brush piles, humps, stumps and fish condos with duck decoys. Mallard hen is going to be a hog maker.

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Last picture. Far south bank on the inlet that leads to the two culverts. (they are directly behind me in the picture). Brush just right of center is a hump and the channel runs on either side of it. We put a row of cedars between where I was standing and the hump. Water should back up 20-25' into the trees on the left.
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