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Old 04-15-2014, 04:08 PM   #51
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Stunning place! This will be awesome wen it's done
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:16 PM   #52
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Place is awesome, my only question is can you have to much cover? I do not now the answer, just asking...
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:19 PM   #53
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I have someone coming out next Saturday to talk to me about getting mine started. I wish/hope I can get something like this....... Looks GREAT!
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:28 PM   #54
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Stunning place! This will be awesome wen it's done
Thanks. Hope he lets me fish it when we're done.

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Place is awesome, my only question is can you have to much cover? I do not now the answer, just asking...
There's 5-6' of water left to fill this thing up. Lots of open water left.

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Where's your place?
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:44 PM   #55
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A couple more pictures from this past weekend.
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Moving down the North bank. This hump has a couple foot drop off on it now. Water should be 3-4 feet above the top of the hump with 8-10 feet to the dropoff. Hoping that hanging log is a honey hole.

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You can see the log hanging over the deeper water here.

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One of the rock piles. Just busted up concrete. Lots of these left to build if we have the time.

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Took a picture of the "Duck Hole" for everybody that commented on it.

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Moving into the shallow areas. Lots and lots of stumps

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Tried to make sure he left a hump around stumps that were going to be in deeper water.

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One of the channels cut that runs all the way into the shallow area. Good area for the bass to travel and doesn't hurt that you can get the boat in and out pretty easily.

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How they did the "laydowns" on the stumps. Hope the big girls feel comfortable here.

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Old 04-15-2014, 04:48 PM   #56
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now that is taking a pond to a new level, looks great
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:08 PM   #57
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Paris. I will probably end up with a1 acre pit instead of a lake, but we shall see.
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Old 04-16-2014, 12:12 PM   #58
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Paris. I will probably end up with a1 acre pit instead of a lake, but we shall see.
You can do a lot with an acre. We fish a little pond in Celina, TX that can't be more than an acre and it is really good. He started out with a cup shaped bowl, but we added just a few rock piles and some brush and it grows good fish.

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Old 04-16-2014, 12:32 PM   #59
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Well when the ducks over take it id like to volunteer to get rid of those pesky little birds!
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:13 PM   #60
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This is my dream. Awesome.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:13 PM   #61
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:41 PM   #62
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Man that pond looks absolutely awesome!!! Wish it were mine. Thats going to be a dream to fish. Should turn out some good bass in the future to.
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Old 04-16-2014, 02:10 PM   #63
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Sweet dude. Gonna be a fun place to fish
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:04 PM   #64
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Make a map of all the junk yall are putting on the bottom so you don't lose your crank baits lol
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:38 PM   #65
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How long after you start a new lake can you fish? Can you stock it catchable size fish?
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:48 AM   #66
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Well when the ducks over take it id like to volunteer to get rid of those pesky little birds!
You are a true gentlemen. What would you charge for this kind of duck protection?

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Man that pond looks absolutely awesome!!! Wish it were mine. Thats going to be a dream to fish. Should turn out some good bass in the future to.
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Sweet dude. Gonna be a fun place to fish
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How long after you start a new lake can you fish? Can you stock it catchable size fish?
As I understand it, you can stock almost any size fish your budget/management plan can tolerate. This lake will have fry sized bass stocked. Should be a little over a year for bass you can catch, but not sure what the management plan calls for in terms of fishing it hard. We'll be blue gill/Perch experts by the time the lake is ready for big fish.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:07 AM   #67
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Last batch from this past weekend.

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Long sloping point bordered by two channels. This should get a couple big loads of small gravel on it

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View of a sharper secondary point on the south side of the long point. You can see a rock piles at the tip of each point where it meets a channel.

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Rock pile.

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This is pretty cool. Two culverts and a fake road bed on the end of one of the channels. Hope the bass can use this as an ambush point as the wind drives bait into the area.

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Channel and hump leading towards the culverts

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Lake is filling up. Took a similar picture to this one the time before and you could see a bunch of fish condos in that picture. They are mostly underwater now.

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Big trees to form hiding areas. Water should be right at a foot above the top of these trunks. That root ball is just waiting for me.

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The kids decided they wanted in on the action and started laying a bunch of deadfall against the larger trunks. They named it the honey hole.

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Overview looking back to the North East.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:09 AM   #68
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I have looked at these pics about 100 times, really cool place....
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:24 AM   #69
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Looks great
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:36 AM   #70
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Awesome pond right there. Nice work.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:04 AM   #71
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x2 keep them coming
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:09 AM   #72
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Are you pumping water in?
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:50 PM   #73
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This is really coming along nicely. I've built several and you all have put in more effort and got more great ideas on structure than any lake I have seen. My problem is usually it starts raining before I get all my structure established. You have had the perfect year and lots of labor time and effort. It looks fabulous. I still say leave the bass out until at least next year, maybe 2016. That's hard, but you can never add enough prey later like you can grow it now. I'm trying to buy 5" bluegill now and can't find any. Big expense for big bait!!
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Old 04-17-2014, 05:01 PM   #74
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that looks awesome. good friend to know
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Old 04-17-2014, 06:35 PM   #75
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Thanks. Won't be out there for a few weeks, but I'll take more when I get back that way.

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Just runoff so far. The plan is to use an existing well, but the pipe isn't in yet.

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This is really coming along nicely. I've built several and you all have put in more effort and got more great ideas on structure than any lake I have seen. My problem is usually it starts raining before I get all my structure established. You have had the perfect year and lots of labor time and effort. It looks fabulous. I still say leave the bass out until at least next year, maybe 2016. That's hard, but you can never add enough prey later like you can grow it now. I'm trying to buy 5" bluegill now and can't find any. Big expense for big bait!!
Appreciate the words. Definitely understand the benefits of waiting. We talked about it this weekend and he was going to double check with the fish guy. I'll bend his ear on the rational when we get back out there.

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Don't tell him that. We're trying to convince him just how valuable our labor is.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:42 PM   #76
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Wow incredible lake! Every cast looks like a winner.....cover everywhere.

Ever thought about putting poles sticking out of the water with signs on them marking the name of each piece of structure/cover? That would be cool.

Tilapia won't live through the winter in North Texas (unless its spring fed). Heck they don't live down here in Katy in a normal winter....I've tried. Once water temp hits about 50 degrees they are toast...or a popsickle . But they will spawn 3-4 times during the warm months so it may be worth it to him to stock them anyway. All it takes is money$$$$$ !!

He may give some thought to stocking some gambusia minnows too. They are a great forage base for those small bass once they are stocked. They are prolific spawners and can spawn 8-9 times a year! Plus they eat the crap out of mosquito larvae.

Thanks for posting all the updates!
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:14 PM   #77
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Where do I sign up? LOL
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:28 PM   #78
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Awesome project following!
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:39 AM   #79
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:28 AM   #80
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:50 PM   #81
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Wow incredible lake! Every cast looks like a winner.....cover everywhere.

Ever thought about putting poles sticking out of the water with signs on them marking the name of each piece of structure/cover? That would be cool.

Tilapia won't live through the winter in North Texas (unless its spring fed). Heck they don't live down here in Katy in a normal winter....I've tried. Once water temp hits about 50 degrees they are toast...or a popsickle . But they will spawn 3-4 times during the warm months so it may be worth it to him to stock them anyway. All it takes is money$$$$$ !!

He may give some thought to stocking some gambusia minnows too. They are a great forage base for those small bass once they are stocked. They are prolific spawners and can spawn 8-9 times a year! Plus they eat the crap out of mosquito larvae.

Thanks for posting all the updates!
Have you had good luck with the gambusia minnows? Always heard they are nest raiders, but I don't have an personal experience to go by.

Tilapia and their survival are on the docket for the next campfire convention. By the time the fire goes to embers we'll probably be drawing up plans for a geothermal well to keep things at 62 degrees year round.

One thing we've discussed is the possibility of using an aerator/aerators to not only help with oxygen levels in the summer but also to keep the water turning and warmer in the winter. Anybody out there had luck using the aerators to turn the water in the winter?

A quick search turns up people using them to de-ice docks, maintain open water and oxygen levels in ponds that freeze over, but nothing about using them to keep the water a few degrees warmer in climates like we have in Texas.

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Old 04-21-2014, 05:59 PM   #82
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Have you had good luck with the gambusia minnows? Always heard they are nest raiders, but I don't have an personal experience to go by.
Yep gambusia minnows are the main stay of our small forage fish.....love them! Bluegill and baby bass thrive on them. IMO most all predator fish are nest raiders....but to me that's not really a bad thing since most small lakes overpopulate within a few years if they not heavily managed.
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:27 PM   #83
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Looks excellent. The type of water that would have been so awesome to fish as a kid and definitely awesome to fish now. A great place to take the family.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:08 PM   #84
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Id say put some small fountains in it to turn the water up in the summertime! there needs to be a tire area somewhere to finish out that pond!!!
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:48 PM   #86
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Thought this exact same thing when I first saw it
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:06 PM   #87
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I missed the work weekend but did get a few updates.

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Placing gravel for beds

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They finished the pipe and turned on the well. Lots more gravel around the dock as well.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:27 AM   #88
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:13 PM   #89
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Remember to consider not only the structure but the peninsulas and draws along the shore. This will increase your shore area and provide more bank for bass to set up off of and cast to.

One piece of structure I didn't see a lot of was lateral structure. Like a log laying horizontal with a lateral big branch sticking up or a series of posts like a fence. That is solid structure.

If the long-term health of the tank is important then do some research into the potential threat that shad can provide. Gizzard Shad have a down side that will likely require restocking of bass and they have a tendency to overpopulate. If managed correctly it can work. I like golden shiners because they're soft and breed well, red ears to control parasite and their young provide good forage, be careful to weed out ANY green sunfish, do not stock crappie in a bass tank. Coppernose Blue gill have been a preferred strain by some over common variety. Mosquito fish.

Agree with Uncle, mosquito fish/gambusia is another good addition. Along with varieties of native top water minnows.

The kids had a great idea with the "honey hole". That will provide some fun fishing for them and resist hang ups too.

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Remember to consider not only the structure but the peninsulas and draws along the shore. This will increase your shore area and provide more bank for bass to set up off of and cast to.

One piece of structure I didn't see a lot of was lateral structure. Like a log laying horizontal with a lateral big branch sticking up or a series of posts like a fence. That is solid structure.

If the long-term health of the tank is important then do some research into the potential threat that shad can provide. Gizzard Shad have a down side that will likely require restocking of bass and they have a tendency to overpopulate. If managed correctly it can work. I like golden shiners because they're soft and breed well, red ears to control parasite and their young provide good forage, be careful to weed out ANY green sunfish, do not stock crappie in a bass tank. Coppernose Blue gill have been a preferred strain by some over common variety. Mosquito fish.

Agree with Uncle, mosquito fish/gambusia is another good addition. Along with varieties of native top water minnows.

The kids had a great idea with the "honey hole". That will provide some fun fishing for them and resist hang ups too.
Are you talking about "gizzard shad lockup" (a term I'd never heard until today). Thanks for the heads up. I'm not the decision maker here, but pretty interesting to read up on it and will definitely be something the owner asks his fish guy.

Thanks again to everybody for the appreciative words and words of advice/guidance.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:54 AM   #91
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Here is an interesting article on stocking Gizzard shad for trophy bass. I know I have caught 18" hybrids on 6-7" gizzards.

http://www.bassresource.com/fish_bio...zard_shad.html
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:07 PM   #92
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Man this is too cool...
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #93
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Here is an interesting article on stocking Gizzard shad for trophy bass. I know I have caught 18" hybrids on 6-7" gizzards.

http://www.bassresource.com/fish_bio...zard_shad.html
Good read right there. Gotta few more to read before the next campfire.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:17 PM   #94
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Awesome looking fish pond...thought out very well.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:40 PM   #95
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Ride Klein, YES... that is a great resource. Seen it, it's real.

Interesting article, but the issue of concern with gizzard shad was not addressed. The author supposes the primary issue is competition between shad and very young game fish. So they rotenoned a lake and killed off the shad, the game fish population didn't change and the gizzard shad population rebounded quickly. Remember that, "quickly".

Then goes on to say, "And what was the result of this research? The researchers found no improvement, no change in sportfish populations. In addition, in the following years, as gizzard shad populations recovered to pretreatment levels, when you would expect to see the negative effect of gizzard shad competition, there was still no change in sportfish populations."

There isn't any argument that soft bodied, fast growing, prodigious gizzard shad are a great source of nutrition. The problem evidently is how fast they breed and the effects of their breeding on the rest of the body of water. It's not direct competition with young fish though. Why didn't anyone ask why the population of game fish did not change? The shad rebounded quickly and the game fish population remained the same. The shads' spawn was successful enough to grow the population back to what it had been, but the game fish remained the same? As stated in Ride's source (PondBoss) you're going to (at some point) carry a high percentage of unusable shad take up space in the tank.

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