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Old 09-15-2014, 02:49 AM   #2501
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Sackett, what were the temps like at the altitude you were hunting?
60's-70's for a high and upper 30's-40's for low. One day it didn't get above 60.
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:28 PM   #2502
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We just got back from a week and a half in 65 CO. Hunting was pretty poor. We had 2 or 3 days of straight rain but weather was good the rest of the time. We saw several elk early on and then things kind of fizzled out. Elk were not vocal at all. They were almost all seen one at a time. No groups yet.
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:52 PM   #2503
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We leave Saturday for an 8 day DIY hunt on the Western Slope of Colorado. Will hopefully have decent cell coverage where we are to do a live hunt starting Sunday.

Lots of bulls in our area but no giants. 3 out of 4 of us have bear tags too.
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Old 09-18-2014, 03:15 PM   #2504
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We are leaving Monday. We will hunt the last four days of the season on 16 sq. miles of private ground just south of Steamboat Springs.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:57 PM   #2505
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Nm update. We are getting into elk but the bugling action is hit or miss. They are not responding to calls either. We have put in the miles so our time is coming. Lots of close calls. It is as dry as any where ive hunted making it impossible to be quite. My dad shot a cow opening morning so we are in the board. Made a perfect 30 yard quartering away shot. She went 40 yrds and piled up. Great stuff!!

On the other hand there are people everywhere. And the rudest group of hunters i have ever shared the woods with. Im a pretty chill fella but i got pushed to the point and called a guy out for some unethical behavior. Im glad it ended well. Later in we gave his buddies a ride to their truck. It was tough to do but im a firm believer in doing the right thing all the time. Man it was hard. I just wish we didnt have jackwagons in our bow hunting community. I used to think a bow hunter was a cut above most folks but im not sure anymore. Good luck to those still huntin.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:56 PM   #2506
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Sorry I haven't updated lately, but here goes.

I've been hunting quite a bit. This last weekend found bulls responding to calls and bugling but we weren't hearing them bugle on their own, they had to be responding to calling or they were silent.

Had two herds with nice herd bulls working at different points over the weekend, but never did get a shot.
I did miss a long shot on a cow elk Saturday evening, the elk was maybe a two year old and thought she was a whitetail deer. She jumped the string and turned inside out at the sound of the shot. Reversed 180 degrees and was gone in a flash.

Getting down to crunch time, seems like the rut is a little slow this year compared to last but the bulls are bugling and have herded up in central Colorado.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:04 AM   #2507
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We are on the western slope and they are not bugling where we are. Very slow for the first 2 days of our hunt. Still have 6 days left to get it done. Did see a heck of a big bear the first evening but could not get a shot.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:38 AM   #2508
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We are on the western slope and they are not bugling where we are. Very slow for the first 2 days of our hunt. Still have 6 days left to get it done. Did see a heck of a big bear the first evening but could not get a shot.
Make sure you are cow calling every 300-400 yards, or at the top of every ridge as hiking. Every bull that answered and came in was not bugling on there own and if we had not been so aggressive with cow calling we would have passed them by without knowing they were anywhere around.

On the front range elk were bugling on their own last night and one bull was pushing his herd and showing full rut behavior yesterday.

The time is right now, all across the state. If the action isn't very intense then trigger it with calling of your own. The elk are ready!
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:59 PM   #2509
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Nm update. We are getting into elk but the bugling action is hit or miss. They are not responding to calls either. We have put in the miles so our time is coming. Lots of close calls. It is as dry as any where ive hunted making it impossible to be quite. My dad shot a cow opening morning so we are in the board. Made a perfect 30 yard quartering away shot. She went 40 yrds and piled up. Great stuff!!

On the other hand there are people everywhere. And the rudest group of hunters i have ever shared the woods with. Im a pretty chill fella but i got pushed to the point and called a guy out for some unethical behavior. Im glad it ended well. Later in we gave his buddies a ride to their truck. It was tough to do but im a firm believer in doing the right thing all the time. Man it was hard. I just wish we didnt have jackwagons in our bow hunting community. I used to think a bow hunter was a cut above most folks but im not sure anymore. Good luck to those still huntin.
I got a dose of that in Colorado was 8 miles by trail from the trailhead got set up down wing on a bull been patterning for 3 days and started calling two hunters came in from upwind of the bull and blew him past me and they came stalking "rather poorly" into my cow call arrows knocked with bows held in front of them and they were making me a little nervous, so I stood up and waved and was assulted with profanity, at that point I picked up my pack and headed to other huunting grounds. Just what you have to put up with when you hunt public land.
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:13 PM   #2510
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I just got back from unit 53 in New Mexico (near Taos), they were bugling on their own but would not come into a call of any kind. They would answer a bugle but refused to come to a cow call. They were coming out of the timber at almost dark, got close several times but could never get a shot off before dark. People were everywhere!
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:39 PM   #2511
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I just got back from unit 53 in New Mexico (near Taos), they were bugling on their own but would not come into a call of any kind. They would answer a bugle but refused to come to a cow call. They were coming out of the timber at almost dark, got close several times but could never get a shot off before dark. People were everywhere!
Same thing that we experienced in 51 last week. The elk would respond to calls, but would not come in to them. They would actually move away from them.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:44 PM   #2512
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I just got back from unit 53 in New Mexico (near Taos), they were bugling on their own but would not come into a call of any kind. They would answer a bugle but refused to come to a cow call. They were coming out of the timber at almost dark, got close several times but could never get a shot off before dark. People were everywhere!
We hunted unit 15 last season and the bulls would not respond to a call at all. They were screaming in the morning and silent in the afternoon. We ended up killing 5 bulls out of 10 hunters with 2 bulls coming the last day.
We would not make a sound in the mornings and just go to the bulls screaming.
I got lucky and killed my best bull the last day of the hunt. I had pretty much given up on killing a good bull, but everything came together that morning, I got between him and his cows and shot the heard bull at 40 yds. We killed a 367, 336, and 2 bulls around 300 and one small 5x5.
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:01 PM   #2513
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We hunted unit 15 last season and the bulls would not respond to a call at all. They were screaming in the morning and silent in the afternoon. We ended up killing 5 bulls out of 10 hunters with 2 bulls coming the last day.
We would not make a sound in the mornings and just go to the bulls screaming.
I got lucky and killed my best bull the last day of the hunt. I had pretty much given up on killing a good bull, but everything came together that morning, I got between him and his cows and shot the heard bull at 40 yds. We killed a 367, 336, and 2 bulls around 300 and one small 5x5.
WOW! I am thinking about trying for Unit 13 or any of the 16's next year. Looks like I need to add unit 15 to the list! Nice bull.
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:54 PM   #2514
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We hunted unit 15 last season and the bulls would not respond to a call at all. They were screaming in the morning and silent in the afternoon. We ended up killing 5 bulls out of 10 hunters with 2 bulls coming the last day.

We would not make a sound in the mornings and just go to the bulls screaming.

I got lucky and killed my best bull the last day of the hunt. I had pretty much given up on killing a good bull, but everything came together that morning, I got between him and his cows and shot the heard bull at 40 yds. We killed a 367, 336, and 2 bulls around 300 and one small 5x5.

Beautiful bull buddy!
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Old 10-08-2014, 07:09 PM   #2515
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I know bad land packs have been mentioned here but has anyone tried out the packs from kings camo? They look solid and are priced quite less than the ones from badlands.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:09 PM   #2516
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Well a buddy and I have committed to doing a DIY Bivy hunt in Colorado for next year. Training has already begun and is the focus right now. Cut 10 pounds trying to cut another 5-10. Mixture of runs, lifts, and moderate (50 pounds) rucks.

Lots of time spent on google earth, topo maps, and studying the Colorado wildlife website. We are saving for as best quality gear we can swing, while using what we have. My priority is decent boots and a solid sleep system. Currently have a few GMU's that we are researching but that work has just begun.

Good luck to everyone and hunt hard.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:58 PM   #2517
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Schmalzy, I can give you some recommendations for a decent sleep system and a pack if you are budget conscious like myself, just let me know, what GMU's are you looking at? I'm debating right now between trying to hunt in UT for mule deer again or elk OTC in CO if I don't get drawn for the mule deer unit I put in for this year.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:21 PM   #2518
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2015-2016 New Mexico hunting regs are out. As expected all units have moved to a 2 season archery structure.
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/home/publications/

App season is coming quick...Wyoming NR Elk apps are due at the end on Jan.
http://gf.state.wy.us/web2011/hunting-1001103.aspx
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:16 PM   #2519
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I realize that you cannot hunt wilderness as a NR w/o a guide. Question for you all that have hunted WY public as a NR, w/o a guide on non wilderness areas....Is it worth it? Or, would you strongly suggest hiring a guide?
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:38 PM   #2520
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I realize that you cannot hunt wilderness as a NR w/o a guide. Question for you all that have hunted WY public as a NR, w/o a guide on non wilderness areas....Is it worth it? Or, would you strongly suggest hiring a guide?
Ive never done it but i am saving up 7-8 points to hunt the area that doc may killed his huge bull.. Its guided and kinda pricey but man it looks like a great hunt..
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:03 PM   #2521
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2015-2016 New Mexico hunting regs are out. As expected all units have moved to a 2 season archery structure.
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/home/publications/

App season is coming quick...Wyoming NR Elk apps are due at the end on Jan.
http://gf.state.wy.us/web2011/hunting-1001103.aspx
So I wonder how many of those first half archery tags will be available, that'd be a tough hunt, but getting in there on elk that are completely not pressured is appealing.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:16 PM   #2522
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2015-2016 New Mexico hunting regs are out. As expected all units have moved to a 2 season archery structure.
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/home/publications/
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Not all Units fall into that category. All Units & private ranches that are inside the Core Occupied Elk Range (COER) now have 2 archery seasons. All others outside the COER do not have to opt for the 2 seasons & can choose to have 1 long season if preferred. Dates are ranch specific.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:32 AM   #2523
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2015-2016 New Mexico hunting regs are out. As expected all units have moved to a 2 season archery structure.
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/home/publications/

They messed up my plans of hunting the 11th - 16th
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:21 AM   #2524
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Schmalzy, I can give you some recommendations for a decent sleep system and a pack if you are budget conscious like myself, just let me know, what GMU's are you looking at? I'm debating right now between trying to hunt in UT for mule deer again or elk OTC in CO if I don't get drawn for the mule deer unit I put in for this year.
Rhendrix,

My apologies I just saw this! I thought I checked this post again, sorry for the late response.

I will PM you the units I am looking at. I am also toying with the idea of Idaho. I have almost all of my gear squared away, just need to pick up some good pants, quilt and gaiters.
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Old 01-05-2015, 04:11 PM   #2525
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So I wonder how many of those first half archery tags will be available, that'd be a tough hunt, but getting in there on elk that are completely not pressured is appealing.
I don't know if getting in there early while they aren't pressured would be better or waiting until the second season to try and catch them bugling?
The first part of Sept. could be more setting at water holes, which isn't as appealing to me. Anyone have any thoughts? Might be easier to get drawn for the first part of Sept.?
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:27 AM   #2526
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I suspect a lot of residents will opt for first season, and most non residents will want 2nd.
The majority of the locals prefer sitting water from my observations.
The majority of non residents want the thrill of the rut. Like me!
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:10 AM   #2527
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My apologies I just saw this! I thought I checked this post again, sorry for the late response.



I will PM you the units I am looking at. I am also toying with the idea of Idaho. I have almost all of my gear squared away, just need to pick up some good pants, quilt and gaiters.

Let me know buddy.

I don't have easy access to a laptop, has NM put out the tag allotments per season yet?
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:23 PM   #2528
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I realize that you cannot hunt wilderness as a NR w/o a guide. Question for you all that have hunted WY public as a NR, w/o a guide on non wilderness areas....Is it worth it? Or, would you strongly suggest hiring a guide?
You can get into some big Elk on a General Tag inside wilderness with an outfitter hauling you in. Still gonna cost you $3-4K.

I have hunted on a WY General tag and I think its a better option than CO OTC. Generally less pressure and depending on the unit...hurts less.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:59 PM   #2529
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What it'd take to draw that general tag?
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:11 AM   #2530
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You can get into some big Elk on a General Tag inside wilderness with an outfitter hauling you in. Still gonna cost you $3-4K.

I have hunted on a WY General tag and I think its a better option than CO OTC. Generally less pressure and depending on the unit...hurts less.
Completely Agree.. Since i started playing the points game i am hoping to never have to play the OTC game again .
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:01 PM   #2531
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I have enjoyed readin this. Because of the medical disability, I would not be able to do this type of hunt, but I can dream. I still put it in my bucket list.

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Old 01-08-2015, 06:13 PM   #2532
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:16 PM   #2533
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You can get into some big Elk on a General Tag inside wilderness with an outfitter hauling you in. Still gonna cost you $3-4K.

I have hunted on a WY General tag and I think its a better option than CO OTC. Generally less pressure and depending on the unit...hurts less.
I was hunting a mule deer tag in 2008 and saw plenty of elk, just wish I had a tag. The tag for the unit I was in is pretty easy to draw but I haven't been back. The cost is the only hangup for me, I can hunt Colorado OTC for $46 as a resident.
I would agree that a Wyoming general tag is better than Colorado OTC any day.
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Old 01-24-2015, 06:15 PM   #2534
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Okay I'm needing a little help on clothing. Headed up to CO high country for the season opener. I will have to upgrade some gear of course. My questions are around Sitka and first lite. I prefer wool but am afraid that the kanab pants won't hold up to the conditions. Sitka makes a mountain pant that looks great but I'm afraid of odor. Also like traverse top by Sitka.

So....
Sitka mountain pants vs first lite kanab pants

As far as top...first lite llano then
Chama vs Sitka traverse

Then where can you try them on. Mostly first for this question. I'm south of San Antonio.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:30 PM   #2535
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Okay I'm needing a little help on clothing. Headed up to CO high country for the season opener. I will have to upgrade some gear of course. My questions are around Sitka and first lite. I prefer wool but am afraid that the kanab pants won't hold up to the conditions. Sitka makes a mountain pant that looks great but I'm afraid of odor. Also like traverse top by Sitka.

So....
Sitka mountain pants vs first lite kanab pants

As far as top...first lite llano then
Chama vs Sitka traverse

Then where can you try them on. Mostly first for this question. I'm south of San Antonio.

I run a 31/2 layer system
first lite merino shirt
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kuiu yukon jacket

first lite merino pants
kuiu yukon pants
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:44 PM   #2536
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Good Sports at I10 and DeZavala has Sitka on sale right now (20% off). Don't know what they have in stock at their store.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:45 PM   #2537
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Okay I'm needing a little help on clothing. Headed up to CO high country for the season opener. I will have to upgrade some gear of course. My questions are around Sitka and first lite. I prefer wool but am afraid that the kanab pants won't hold up to the conditions. Sitka makes a mountain pant that looks great but I'm afraid of odor. Also like traverse top by Sitka.

So....
Sitka mountain pants vs first lite kanab pants

As far as top...first lite llano then
Chama vs Sitka traverse

Then where can you try them on. Mostly first for this question. I'm south of San Antonio.
What part of Colorado? The Kanabs are really nice, I own a pair, they do like to catch burs a bit. They are NOT the toughest thing in the world, but are tougher than you think. I personally use KUIU Attack or even my Proper military pants, for $40 bucks they are a LEGIT pant especially for early season.

To be real honest, I have quit using camo for much of anything and have gone completely to the Icebreaker Merino wool, but still have a couple pieces of the First Lite. First Lite's wool is tops IMO.

I wore Icrebreaker bottoms, Proper pants and OR gaiters with Icebreaker wool, an Arc'Letex (sp) puffy and North Face soft shell in January on a mule deer hunt with a freak snow storm, and was comfortable in all of it. For whatever that is worth, unfortunately my camo game was not up to par and the game wardens asked "are you a prospector?"
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:23 PM   #2538
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Heads up for those hunting Colorado.

Lighted nocks and cameras attached to bows have been legalized this year.


Good news that might help in capturing the hunt and recovery both.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:35 AM   #2539
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It is a mule deer hunt north of gunnison. I also have gotten away from camo to find clothes that fit. I have been wearing carhartt 151 that are lite weight and move good with me. They are cotton but worked great for me during 2013 floods in the Gila. I have been working hard and lost some weight so now I have to buy more clothes. If spending money then I want what works best. I love Sitka and kuiu and have those products but am worried about the smell factor. On the flip side merino wool has never lasted long with me.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:37 AM   #2540
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I did get a traverse shirt at good sports. That's my favorite store in SA that sportsman left.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:44 AM   #2541
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I did get a traverse shirt at good sports. That's my favorite store in SA that sportsman left.

Do they have a good selection of Sitka? Any good sales?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:50 PM   #2542
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Not much left unless you are medium. Few large shirts. 90% pants in 34. New stuff coming in spring.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:49 AM   #2543
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FYI. Arizona is a little confusing this year about valid license dates. I bought license separately because last years is still valid but wont be by draw dates. I just randomly chose 2-1-15 thru 1-31-16. No sure if that was right or wrong but look good.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:33 PM   #2544
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:01 PM   #2545
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FYI. Arizona is a little confusing this year about valid license dates. I bought license separately because last years is still valid but wont be by draw dates. I just randomly chose 2-1-15 thru 1-31-16. No sure if that was right or wrong but look good.

I did the same..... It doesn''t make it obvious that you have to do so., but I understood it the same way as you,
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:46 AM   #2546
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For AZ, the $160 for the lisc in non-refundable, even if you're putting in for points, right?
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:25 PM   #2547
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For AZ, the $160 for the lisc in non-refundable, even if you're putting in for points, right?
correct
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:28 PM   #2548
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just fyi for the guys building points in utah.. you can get 2 years worth of points per license if you time it right
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:32 PM   #2549
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That's what I thought, need to apply before I forget.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:36 PM   #2550
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That's what I thought, need to apply before I forget.
and the license needs to be valid the closing date of applications. thats why you can't get two years of points on one license like you can in Utah
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