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    #16
    Originally posted by BURTONboy View Post
    The Heli-m is a shooter. Have never shot a Creed, but I love my Heli-m.
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      #17
      I shot the creed and heli-m when I went to buy my latest bow. I went with the Creed. It was better imho, but not by much. They are both very good bows.

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        #18
        I'm about to go see Fred at the bow shop. Hopefully he has a creed I can shoot

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          #19
          I shoot the helium and creed over and over. Bought the creed last December. I think the draw on the creed was smoother.everybody is different. I had back surgery two years ago and they removed my lower disk. I tried every brand of bow and the creed was best for me. I have it set at 58 pounds, got my first turkey and whitetail buck with it this season.

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            #20
            Go shoot the creed xs

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              #21
              I picked up my XS yesterday and shot it all today . I think it's a smooth shooter, dead in your hand , with a solid back wall.. I have a switchy xt also and the back wall is way better on the XS!! I shot the creed and the creed xs side by side, the xs won hands down to me.. I have a 26.5 " draw, and the short ATA is perfect for me!!

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                #22
                Originally posted by bucsfan69 View Post
                I picked up my XS yesterday and shot it all today . I think it's a smooth shooter, dead in your hand , with a solid back wall.. I have a switchy xt also and the back wall is way better on the XS!! I shot the creed and the creed xs side by side, the xs won hands down to me.. I have a 26.5 " draw, and the short ATA is perfect for me!!
                Curious to see the speed your shooting as my draw length is the same and I'm debating between the xs or chill r

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                  #23
                  What DL are you? I've only shot the creed a few times, but I owned a Heli-M for a while.

                  At 30", I liked the draw on the Heli-M more, but the Creed has more valley. Even with the smaller draw stop with the Heli-M, you're either on the wall or you're out of the valley.

                  The actual bow weights are similar, but I had trouble holding such a lightweight bow on target. Of course, with a lighter bow you can put more of the weight wherever you want it.

                  My advice would be to shoot both, and let the bow pick you.

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                    #24
                    Back in the fall I shot the Creed, Helim, and Chill several times and liked, and bought, the Helim. They were all three excellent bows and all shot and felt just a tad different. The Creed had a great draw cycle very similar to the Chill but I didn't care for the weight of the Creed, tad heavy for me. The Chill was very, very nice as well as the Helim but I chose the HeWilm over the Chill based on just purely the feel and weight. I don't regret my purchase and my "all black" Helim has proven to be a great bow, easy to tune and a joy to hunt with. I have been killing quite a few pigs lately and I couldn't be happier with it. You actually answered your own question though and that is go shoot the two and get the one you like the best.

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                      #25
                      I owned the Helim and really liked it over my Z7 Extreme. Last year I shot the Creed and Chill and couldn't tell a remarkable difference between the Creed and Helim at draw or shot, but fell in love with Chill and took one home. Shot the Chill R against my Chill and the Chill R felt slightly different at the shot, but had me at the draw cycle. Smoother at 70, than the Chill @ 65. Hopefully you had all four of the Mathews models to try and picked the best for you.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Beans View Post
                        Curious to see the speed your shooting as my draw length is the same and I'm debating between the xs or chill r
                        I don't have a chrono so couldn't get you exact speeds, but draw weight is 65lbs, I shoot Easton bloodlines cut to 26.5 , blazer vanes and 100 gr tip..that weight plus nock and insert is roughly 350 gr... The math could be done with posted ibo speed , but what I do know, side by side with my switchy xt, it is faster.
                        As far as the chill r.. If you haven't held or shot them side by side, the chill r feels a lot larger to me, I preferred the the xs.. My 2 cents

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                          #27
                          I personally prefer the heli m. Lighter, I like light easy to maneuver bows. I am very accurate with it

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by bucsfan69 View Post
                            I don't have a chrono so couldn't get you exact speeds, but draw weight is 65lbs, I shoot Easton bloodlines cut to 26.5 , blazer vanes and 100 gr tip..that weight plus nock and insert is roughly 350 gr... The math could be done with posted ibo speed , but what I do know, side by side with my switchy xt, it is faster.
                            As far as the chill r.. If you haven't held or shot them side by side, the chill r feels a lot larger to me, I preferred the the xs.. My 2 cents
                            I noticed that the chill r did feel bigger but against a 28" ATA anything feels bigger lol. I'm really leaning towards the xs.

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                              #29
                              I have both. The Heli-m is for long walks in the mountains. the creed is for fun in the backyard and treestands. The Creed does seem to aim better. Both will do what you want. I have pass throughs with both on elk.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Beans View Post
                                I noticed that the chill r did feel bigger but against a 28" ATA anything feels bigger lol. I'm really leaning towards the xs.
                                That's the truth brother . Lots of folks complain about the short ATA, for ME, it's perfect .. To each their own. I'm still impressed with how dead it is after the shot..

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