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Old 09-19-2018, 01:54 PM   #1
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:08 PM   #2
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Well, I think a good lawyer would be very beneficial.
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sounds like a setup..
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sounds like a setup..
It does sound a tad too convenient, but it also sounds like they have some hard evidence.
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sounds like a setup..
Thats pretty sophisticated for a 16 year old. She would have to know he engaged in prostitution, know that he frequented a particular site, know his username and force him to send her messages.

Nothing there indicates he knew she was underage, but he wasn't duped into hiring a prostitute.
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It does sound a tad too convenient, but it also sounds like they have some hard evidence.
But do they have evidence he knew she was a minor?
I see a lot of girls walking past the fire station who appear to be over 18 that come from the HS down the road. This girl more than likely represented herself as 18 or older so he may have a case for some sort.
Now, if she said she was under 18 then he deserves what he gets
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But do they have evidence he knew she was a minor?
I see a lot of girls walking past the fire station who appear to be over 18 that come from the HS down the road. This girl more than likely represented herself as 18 or older so he may have a case for some sort.
Now, if she said she was under 18 then he deserves what he gets

To limit liability to the website, I am sure the terms of service probably requires that you represent yourself as 18 or older. The affidavit doesn't contain any information that he did or did not know her true age. Unfortunately, that isn't a defense.

17 is legal in Texas but 30yo on a less than 22yo seems cringeworthy.

Once you hit 30 the following formula applies

1/2 your age + 7 years = youngest you are allowed to "date"
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Thats pretty sophisticated for a 16 year old. She would have to know he engaged in prostitution, know that he frequented a particular site, know his username and force him to send her messages.

Nothing there indicates he knew she was underage, but he wasn't duped into hiring a prostitute.
Or she recently got picked up on prostitution changes until a 3 letter agency stepped in and offered her a get out of jail free pass if she... connected with this man, met up with him....

Sounds crazy, but it also doesent sound that far fetched
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Or she recently got picked up on prostitution changes until a 3 letter agency stepped in and offered her a get out of jail free pass if she... connected with this man, met up with him....

Sounds crazy, but it also doesent sound that far fetched
I don't care if that's true. If he went for that bait, knowing what it was, he should be prosecuted.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:49 PM   #13
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My first thought was set-up. Unfortunately you have to be vulnerable to illegal activity for a set-up to work. Offhand does not appear to have started as entrapment by LE.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:51 PM   #14
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Thats pretty sophisticated for a 16 year old. She would have to know he engaged in prostitution, know that he frequented a particular site, know his username and force him to send her messages.

Nothing there indicates he knew she was underage, but he wasn't duped into hiring a prostitute.
The article never stated that the money was a condition of the physical relationship so he may not be guilty of prostitution. However, correct me if Iím wrong but I donít think ignorance of the minorís age is a defense on a statuatory rape charge. Thatís just the way it is today. If you have sex outside of marriage the only way to protect yourself against something like this is to ask for ID. Or as someone already suggested, if there might be a chance, just walk away.
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1. The girl was 17 at the time. In one story I read (Austin American Statesman) she sent him pictures of her while nude. Does that mean she will be arrested for transmitting child ****? I havenít heard anything about that.

2. Will the site he met her on be fined or taken to court for pimping out a minor? Did they not have a way to verify she was not of age?

3. Did he know she was 17 at the time? If so, did she tell him and do they have this on tape?

At most, without anything to corroborate her story, he is guilty of being stupid enough to hire a prostitute. For that he will be publicly flogged for the rest of his life.

And more than anything I smell a set up, and someone wants him brought down fast.
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To limit liability to the website, I am sure the terms of service probably requires that you represent yourself as 18 or older. The affidavit doesn't contain any information that he did or did not know her true age. Unfortunately, that isn't a defense.

17 is legal in Texas but 30yo on a less than 22yo seems cringeworthy.

Once you hit 30 the following formula applies

1/2 your age + 7 years = youngest you are allowed to "date"
I don't know whose formula that is Roy, but it has no validity in real life. People come in all ages in personality, intelligence, and just good common sense, and it doesn't necessarily match their actual age. I married my wife of 36 years at 35 and she was 19. It has never been a problem except to other people who don't pay enough attention to their own business.
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1. The girl was 17 at the time. In one story I read (Austin American Statesman) she sent him pictures of her while nude. Does that mean she will be arrested for transmitting child ****? I havenít heard anything about that.

She was under 17 at the time of the offense. Otherwise, it isn't sexual assault of a child. She is at most 16.

2. Will the site he met her on be fined or taken to court for pimping out a minor? Did they not have a way to verify she was not of age?

No to the first ? because of "Safe Harbor" and they don't have to verify. They just have to ask.

3. Did he know she was 17 at the time? If so, did she tell him and do they have this on tape?

Unknown. Who would have it on tape? The police weren't involved. She told her counselor who is required by law to inform the police when a minor reports being sexually assaulted. Even if he believed he to be 17 it isn't a defense.

At most, without anything to corroborate her story, he is guilty of being stupid enough to hire a prostitute. For that he will be publicly flogged for the rest of his life.



And more than anything I smell a set up, and someone wants him brought down fast.[/QUOTE]
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:20 PM   #19
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I don't know whose formula that is Roy, but it has no validity in real life. People come in all ages in personality, intelligence, and just good common sense, and it doesn't necessarily match their actual age. I married my wife of 36 years at 35 and she was 19. It has never been a problem except to other people who don't pay enough attention to their own business.
Its a pretty common expression but it obviously has exceptions. I meant no offense.
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Highly intelligent moron.

Doesn't matter if it was a setup or not. My understanding is the burden is on you to determine age.
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Thats pretty sophisticated for a 16 year old. She would have to know he engaged in prostitution, know that he frequented a particular site, know his username and force him to send her messages.

Nothing there indicates he knew she was underage, but he wasn't duped into hiring a prostitute.



Nobody said anything about being duped into hiring a prostitute or paying for sex. That is obvious.


But I wouldn't put anything past folks with an anti-gun agenda for the rest.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:58 PM   #22
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Wouldn't surprise me if she poked around online and found out who he was, found the correct the people who would like to see him taken down and offered to come forward for monetary gain. She is a hooker, why wouldn't she come forward for more money?

But none of this matters, he screwed himself.
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I bet its a set up due to his profile of what he is trying to do, but what do I know. Maybe someone pretending to be him, to get him in trouble.

Its a shame that nothing will happen to her. She is the victim but where are her morals, out looking for a sugar daddy. If she was 18 we would be calling her a prostitute. Old enough to make adult choices, old enough to face adult punishment.

This is not someone forced into sex trafficking but someone with no morals trying to make money at the oldest profession.

I guess I am trying to say, punish them both if the courts find them guilty.
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He can go pound sand. Hope he gets what he deserves. Told the girl he was a “big deal”. Such a punk
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I bet its a set up due to his profile of what he is trying to do, but what do I know. Maybe someone pretending to be him, to get him in trouble.

Its a shame that nothing will happen to her. She is the victim but where are her morals, out looking for a sugar daddy. If she was 18 we would be calling her a prostitute. Old enough to make adult choices, old enough to face adult punishment.

This is not someone forced into sex trafficking but someone with no morals trying to make money at the oldest profession.

I guess I am trying to say, punish them both if the courts find them guilty.
They have video of him meeting her at a coffee shop. They have video of him and her at the hotel. They have his hotel registration. They have video of his car with his license plate on it. They have a picture of his junk that they want to compare to his junk.
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They have video of him meeting her at a coffee shop. They have video of him and her at the hotel. They have his hotel registration. They have video of his car with his license plate on it. They have a picture of his junk that they want to compare to his junk.
Yeah, they have proof that Trump and the Russians rigged the elections too... if you believe the reporters. Lets let the trial sort out the facts, not the reporters.
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They have video of him meeting her at a coffee shop. They have video of him and her at the hotel. They have his hotel registration. They have video of his car with his license plate on it. They have a picture of his junk that they want to compare to his junk.

This.^^^


His crime wasn't that he intentionally had sex with a someone he knew to be a child. It was that he had sex with someone he believed was of age but was actually a child. We don't make exceptions for these situations because everyone who has ever been accused of this crime says "She told me she was 17."

I think its pretty clear that he didn't know she was 16.

He met her in public places with video surveillance. He registered his hotel room under his own name. That's not what people when they think they are committing a crime that lands you on the sex offender registry.

The internet has made us lazy. 20 years ago a 30yo male would have had to go to a bar and invest money and time to get some strange. That invested time was critically important to rooting out the crazy. It has totally dulled our senses.
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Make sure your stuff is stowed before you start rocking the boat.....I'm just saying.....

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He can go pound sand. Hope he gets what he deserves. Told the girl he was a ďbig dealĒ. Such a punk
I'm pretty much on the same page. Not gonna defend him because he is a "gun guy"......lol

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I'm pretty much on the same page. Not gonna defend him because he is a "gun guy"......lol

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Yes sir, me either. Even if it was a set up he took the illegal bait for them to set the hook. Don’t see any way imaginable I’d find my self in bed with a teenage girl.
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As Mr. Munson stated, sex with a minor is a strict liability crime. She can show you a birth certificate, drivers license and a note from mom—if she is under 17 (in Texas) to jail we go!

Please reference Hank Jr., Knoxville Courthouse Blues. :-)
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Thats pretty sophisticated for a 16 year old. She would have to know he engaged in prostitution, know that he frequented a particular site, know his username and force him to send her messages.

Nothing there indicates he knew she was underage, but he wasn't duped into hiring a prostitute.
oh so you know this person inreresting
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They have video of him meeting her at a coffee shop. They have video of him and her at the hotel. They have his hotel registration. They have video of his car with his license plate on it. They have a picture of his junk that they want to compare to his junk.
who is they uh huh thught so
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So, do you think Brett Kavanaugh sex scandal is legit too or just another made up scandal?

They couldn't stop this guy from distributing his product one way or another.... Isn't it odd that he would take his eye off the "ball" for something like this? Just saying, maybe its a way to keep him from sharing his ideas around the world.

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Where are all the other charges on the rest of her customers?
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who is they uh huh thught so
Umm, Austin PD.

His battle is with the feds and always has been.
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So, do you think Brett Kavanaugh sex scandal is legit too or just another made up scandal?

They couldn't stop this guy from distributing his product one way or another.... Isn't it odd that he would take his eye off the "ball" for something like this? Just saying, maybe its a way to keep him from sharing his ideas around the world.
Has Brett Kavanagh been charged with a crime? Is there any evidence against him?

Pretty sure we all know the answer to that
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sounds like a setup..
not in the least.
what about the story are you alluding to.
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I bet its a set up due to his profile of what he is trying to do, but what do I know. Maybe someone pretending to be him, to get him in trouble.

Its a shame that nothing will happen to her. She is the victim but where are her morals, out looking for a sugar daddy. If she was 18 we would be calling her a prostitute. Old enough to make adult choices, old enough to face adult punishment.

This is not someone forced into sex trafficking but someone with no morals trying to make money at the oldest profession.

I guess I am trying to say, punish them both if the courts find them guilty.
so he's begin set up and the 16 YO needs moral scrutiny and punishment?
amazing...
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So, this little innocent young lady registers as a client on a whore website, sells her goodies, commits child **** crimes and there is no mention of any consequences for her actions.
Sure, if this guy knew she was a minor he should spend time in prison. He should face scrutiny and shame from family and friends but this chick needs to pay some sort of price for her actions as well.
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not in the least.
what about the story are you alluding to.



read post 21 for a better explanation..


I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past them to have set him up.


I'm not saying he's innocent at all. I'm just saying there are some crazy som bitches out there that will go to extreme lengths to get what they want....or remove somebody from their agenda..
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So, this little innocent young lady registers as a client on a whore website, sells her goodies, commits child **** crimes and there is no mention of any consequences for her actions.
Sure, if this guy knew she was a minor he should spend time in prison. He should face scrutiny and shame from family and friends but this chick needs to pay some sort of price for her actions as well.
This ^^^^^^
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So, this little innocent young lady registers as a client on a whore website, sells her goodies, commits child **** crimes and there is no mention of any consequences for her actions.
Sure, if this guy knew she was a minor he should spend time in prison. He should face scrutiny and shame from family and friends but this chick needs to pay some sort of price for her actions as well.
Right on, bruh!
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It does sound a tad too convenient, but it also sounds like they have some hard evidence.
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Yes sir, me either. Even if it was a set up he took the illegal bait for them to set the hook. Donít see any way imaginable Iíd find my self in bed with a teenage girl.


You couldnít see yourself at 22 going home with a 17 year old who was at a bar drinking?


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If, and it would be a huge freaking if, some government agency was responsible for this, then that would make them parties to the sexual assault of a child. I guess stranger things have happened but that seems like a mighty long stretch.
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So, this little innocent young lady registers as a client on a whore website, sells her goodies, commits child **** crimes and there is no mention of any consequences for her actions.
Sure, if this guy knew she was a minor he should spend time in prison. He should face scrutiny and shame from family and friends but this chick needs to pay some sort of price for her actions as well.
This is a pretty interesting bit...I would be willing to wager & agree with Smart that it is a set up of sorts. Not so much of the angle the gal intentionally targeted him, but that he himself was already on the radar & 'they' gotta got'm with the minor as a bonus.

Even if she was of age, there would still be thread on TBH of the 3D Gun Guy being a John...the minor is just gravy to defeat his battle. Fro the article:

The affidavit said a counselor called Austin police on Aug. 22 to report that a girl under the age of 17 told her she had sex with a 30-year-old man on Aug. 15 and was paid $500.

It's all speculation on my point but reckon 'counselor' reached out to this gal & said we got way more than $5 bones if you will come to our dance & make 3D sit this one out. Just me connecting the dots in my own head...I really don't understand the whole 3D printing fascination be it pro or anti gun in regards to the final product. Still not sure how the whole plastic gun is a desirable deal?? There are no plastic rounds, so the whole metal detector argument is dumb. It's legal to mfg your own gun made of metal / allow anyway, just can't mfg with the intent to sell sans Lic.

ANYWAY, 3D guy flees to Taiwan...ick. The creep just lost his free speech case at the cost of $500 of his own $$$$.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:34 PM   #50
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You couldn’t see yourself at 22 going home with a 17 year old who was at a bar drinking?


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Didn’t realize he was 22. Bad comparison, my bad. At 34 I see no reason for me being with a girl that age drinking or not. Actually probably worse if she was drinking under age. If he has all this money why not stay between the lines? I’m sure he easily could have. It’s a pretty moronic move.

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